Proof of Covid Vaccination for retirement extension?

[Broken Record]

I am thinking that this will eventually be a requirement for extensions of stay for Non O guys on retirement extensions.

 

Proof of Vaccination certificate, Mor Prom App etc.

 

I know several anti vaxxers who have been in Thailand a long time, but flat out refuse to have the free Pfizer or any other vaccines on offer, I think there will be problems for them in the future with Immigration, anybody heard anything or have an opinion, I have told them they could have future problems, but get a list of conspiracy theory reasons as to why they refuse to take it.

 

Oh and by the way, I have had 2 Pfizer shots already, they think I'm crazy and iv'e been injected with microchips, I know, it's crazy.

 

I think proof of Vaccination will be a requirement in the not to distant future, what say you guys ?

[PoorSucker]

3 minutes ago, Broken Record said:

they think I'm crazy and iv'e been injected with microchips, I know, it's crazy.

While carrying around a phone tracking your every move.

[PoorSucker]

4 minutes ago, Broken Record said:

think proof of Vaccination will be a requirement in the not to distant future, what say you guys ?

I will welcome such requirement.

[Broken Record]

23 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

While carrying around a phone tracking your every move.

haha, exactly

 

[Eff1n2ret]

36 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

While carrying around a phone tracking your every move.

Well, look on the bright side, that could make 90-day reports redundant.

[Crossy]

47 minutes ago, Broken Record said:

Oh and by the way, I have had 2 Pfizer shots already, they think I'm crazy and iv'e been injected with microchips, I know, it's crazy.

 

Let me hazard a guess as to the nationality of these persons 

[yeahbutif]

I have to say I agree with the the vaccine.to stop you getting covid bad...but it will not stop you getting it and will not stop you carrying it ...so I can't understand the rules around having it to get into places and countries... Unless Thailand will use of it to make money .somehow...but they could have charged us falang a fee any how For the jab..

[fangless]

29 minutes ago, Eff1n2ret said:

Well, look on the bright side, that could make 90-day reports redundant.

Just because they might have found a more efficient way of doing something do not believe for one minute that Thailand would actually remove the less efficient system that could be made redundant.  Somebody has to do the paperwork and keep the inactive posts active!

[DrJack54]

Topic more suited to Covid-19 forum.

Has nothing to do with extensions at this time. 

Edited September 27, 2021 by DrJack54

[Jingthing]

I don’t think this will be an extension requirement but I do think we should all get vaccinated because it's the smart and right thing to do.

[Broken Record]

1 hour ago, Crossy said:

 

Let me hazard a guess as to the nationality of these persons 

French and German.

[Crossy]

15 minutes ago, Broken Record said:

French and German.

 

Are you sure they're not French or German ****ican?

 

I've only actually met one anti-vaxxer and he was also a supporter of that chap whose name is UK slang for "fart".

 

[Bkktodd]

1 hour ago, Crossy said:

 

Let me hazard a guess as to the nationality of these persons 

You might be surprised…one i know is from a country famed for “let em cake”   Irks me that being vaxxed i need to be quarantined and such whilst unvaxxed living in my condo need no restrictions. Agree with broken record….make vaccines a required immigration renewal step.  

[Bkktodd]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Topic more suited to Covid-19 forum.

Has nothing to do with extensions at this time. 

Topic is suited i believe.  The unvaccinated whether intentional or unavoidable is a Thailand problem now and affecting everyday lives for all.  Immigration as well

[DrJack54]

19 minutes ago, Bkktodd said:

Topic is suited i believe.  The unvaccinated whether intentional or unavoidable is a Thailand problem now and affecting everyday lives for all.  Immigration as well

May as well start a thread discussing if insurance will become compulsory for all extensions. 

All speculation.

More suited for pub forum or at best covid-19 forum.

 

 

[Guderian]

At what stage do you suppose Immigration and other offices open to the public will drop the mask wearing requirement?

 

My guess is never. Enough Thai people were wearing these things long before anyone had ever heard of Covid that I think they have become a necessary part of life in most of East and South-east Asia forever more, even when SARS-COV2 has become little more than another variation on the common cold. 

 

A lot has changed over the last 18 months, and sadly some of it is going to become part of our new normal lives.

 

[meechai]

15 hours ago, Broken Record said:

I think proof of Vaccination will be a requirement in the not to distant future, what say you guys ?

Maybe..maybe not on vaccinations because it is quickly becoming clear they have a short life (Israel claiming 6 months & Biden already boosting)

but I believe 100% medical insurance will be needed for extension renewals

[Balance]

According to the WHO, the U.S. is 55th world-wide regarding the percentage of people with two jabs.  

[malt25]

14 hours ago, Crossy said:

 

Let me hazard a guess as to the nationality of these persons 

And I'll bet I can guess who they voted for !

[DrJack54]

17 minutes ago, meechai said:

I believe 100% medical insurance will be needed for extension renewals

Based on what? Some dream you had.

Pure guess work. 

Exactly same guess work the OP is based on that vaccination will become an extension requirement. 

 

[4MyEgo]

16 hours ago, Broken Record said:

I think proof of Vaccination will be a requirement in the not to distant future, what say you guys ?

I believe everyone has a choice and just because I opted to get 2 shots of the vaccine doesn't mean anyone should be forced to get one.

 

We still live in a democratic society I think, well at least we still have some freedoms, that said, even though, those of us that are vaccinated can still get it and spread the virus doesn't mean we can't get sick or die, although they do say that the vaccines will keep us out of hospital and reduce serious illness if we get it.

 

That statement while important maybe correct for the majority, however there have been cased where people who have been vaccinated twice have died when infected, mainly the very old I believe and those with immunocompromised immune systems.

 

I was in contact with a mate back in Oz yesterday after a bit of a spell, i.e. I sent him a message on messenger and hadn't heard back from him for a while which was unusual, he then replied 2 weeks later, just got out of being in hospital for two weeks with Covid, he is 61, said it was the worst time of his life, thought he was going to die. I asked if he had been vaxed and he said no, he didn't believe Covid was so bad and that his immune system would handle it, I advised him to get a shot in about 3 months to increase his antibodies and he said yes, the Dr's and nurses all said the same so that he doesn't end up in the same way or worse when his antibodies wane in time.

 

I said that I found it unusual that he didn't get vaxed, him being a father of 6 and the breadwinner and he said there was a lot of s*it going on the internet and I said yes, got me earlier on, it's a divider and has caught a lot of people out.

 

The above said, let those who don't want to get vaxed meet their day with Covid, remember, we can also spread it, so if they aren't vaxed, it's there choice and they have a date with Covid whether they like it or not, will they survive it, I hope so, so that they can remember that choices we pick when we can't cut through the s*it on the internet, can sometimes be the wrong choice.

 

Force is not the answer, encouragement and continued education is the way, otherwise people rebel when you take their freedoms away, look at the USA and the UK, I have read many on the front line have resigned, also happening in Australia, but it is not being reported, these are people with years of experience that are needed desperately in crises like this, so I hope we don't end up with a void there because they are being forced, i.e. having their freedoms taken away, who will fill in the void then ?

Edited September 28, 2021 by 4MyEgo

[meechai]

57 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Based on what? Some dream you had.

Pure guess work. 

Exactly same guess work the OP is based on that vaccination will become an extension requirement. 

 

I would place a bet in Medical Insurance becoming a requirement of visa extensions

 

Perhaps you saw recent proposals for even the well heeled $$$ ?

Their visa had perks but also required medical insurance same as OA

They will require Wealthy pensioners  to have insurance & you think the common man who has less $$ will not need it? 555

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Wealthy pensioners: They are retirees over 50 years old who receive regular pensions from foreign countries. He or she must invest at least $250,000 in Thai government bonds, as FDI or property. A minimum pension of $40,000 a year is mandatory, or $80,000 a year in case they are not making investments. They must have health insurance covering medical expenses of $100,000 throughout the visa period.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/government-makes-bold-move-to-woo-wealthy-highly-skilled-foreigners/

 

All that aside we could call it common sense...It has been coming for awhile now with the

many reported cases of foreigners needing hospital services & claiming no $$$

 

Really started getting legs back when the Graham & Pie guy went for crowd funding to get heart surgery

 

Again even that aside...you think after what the pandemic showed they will not require a form of health insurance for long term extensions?

That I would call a dream ????

Edited September 28, 2021 by meechai

[4MyEgo]

10 minutes ago, meechai said:

I would place a bet in Medical Insurance becoming a requirement of visa extensions

I agree and believe it should be a prerequisite in all countries, that said, it would more than likely be for new applicants, not the existing.

 

When and if they do bring it in and if they make it for all of us, they will have to consider some folk here can't afford it because of how expensive the premiums are due to their ages and or pre-existing conditions.

 

I have private cover, personal choice and frankly wouldn't be without it here, you get what you pay for.

Edited September 28, 2021 by 4MyEgo

[mfd101]

Everywhere in the 'Western' world is debating & fighting over the same question: Should we make vax compulsory for you to do this or that?

 

In Thailand, where enforcement of any law is problematic, compulsion will probably die a quick death except where it is obviously desirable and easily enforced (eg plane travel and immigration including stay renewals).

 

And even if you disagree you'ld be foolish not to plan accordingly.

[meechai]

2 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

When and if they do bring it in and if they make it for all of us, they will have to consider some folk here can't afford it because of how expensive the premiums are due to their ages and or pre-existing conditions.

 

Yes one would hope that when they start requiring it they also have policies available for all in a range of prices. Although if one looks I see more & more international polices with decent prices for all

[DrJack54]

23 minutes ago, meechai said:

Again even that aside...you think after what the pandemic showed they will not require a form of health insurance for long term extensions?

That I would call a dream

Your missing my point. Sure have discussion about this topic if folk wish to.

Just not in this particular Forum, which is more about factual here now, not guesswork re future.

 

Currently the Covid-19 forum has threads where these things are being discussed.

Here is an OP from that forum...

 

"hi, I cannot find any information but until now it seems that no country has forced vaccination for expats to renew visa ?

 

do you think that it will happen here "? 

 

I'm very surprised that this thread hasn't been moved to one of the chit chat forums.

 

 

 

Edited September 28, 2021 by DrJack54

[ubonjoe]

After removing several off topic posts meant to deflect the topic it is now

I you want to discuss the pros and cons of getting vaccinated there many topics in the covid 19 forum you can post in.