26 minutes ago, driver52 said:

and then top out at 90mph? cos they have the aerodynamics of a brick sh!thouse...and handle like one too

Not at 90mph , but just give that , you are over speed limit at 90mph .

BTW , many limit their max speed at around 110mph ( 180km/h) , well above anybody should drive .

They are in general heavier then other cars , due to battery weight .

49 minutes ago, driver52 said:

and then top out at 90mph? cos they have the aerodynamics of a brick sh!thouse...and handle like one too

most "normal" EVs currently have top speeds in the 90 to 120 mph range. Of course, some have top speed in excess of 200mph.

I think you'll find that top speed as a yardstick is schoolboy stuff - ('my Dady's car is faster than yours")

with amazing acceleration and overtaking ability coupled with the low CoG you'll find that EVs can out perform most similarly sized ICE cars.

I've driven all over the world in cars capable of in excess of 130 mph but I can't say that I've ever bothered to take them to top speed - it certainly isn't a regular requirement of day to day driving. However a comfortable high cruising speed is; and without the concomitant vibrations of th combustion eng=ne this is way more achievable in an electric vehicle.

Spotted this while knockin' around Emporium mall today.  Full line of bikes on display, and offered a 10% discount while checking it out and reading the specs, which were just a bit lacking.  But damn, it looked nice.

https://www.vstecs.co.th/thomas/thomas-s2000.html

A new application for EVs - giant snow "buggies" in Canada:

"When tourists reach the north Canadian community of Churchill they have long been greeted by two sounds: the howling of sub-Arctic winds and the rattle of diesel engines.

Over the years, hundreds of thousands of visitors have come to the “polar bear capital of the world”, in the hopes of spotting the predators. They journey on “tundra buggies” – hulking, spacecraft-like vehicles that rumble over the stark landscape.....

Now, one of the town’s tour companies has unveiled the region’s first-ever electric buggy – a vehicle that can move almost silently into areas where the polar bears congregate. The buggy has an estimated range of three days worth of tours and can operate in frigid temperatures."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/no-easy-fix-polar-bear-capital-of-the-world-turns-to-electric-buggies-to-save-the-bears?ref=upstract.com&curator=upstract.com&utm_source=upstract.com

The Ford Mustang Mach-E

That was a surprise, to me anyway.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/motoring/ford-mustang-mach-e-review-electric-car-b1940990.html

Ford stops reservations for F-150 Lightning electric pickup due to strong demand, CEO tells Cramer

Ford CEO Jim Farley said Thursday that interest in the automaker’s soon-to-launch F-150 Lightning electric pickup truck is so great that it had to stop taking reservations.

 

“We are completely oversubscribed with our battery electric vehicles, Lightning especially,” Farley said in an interview during a special live online event, “CNBC Investing Club: Jim Cramer’s Game Plan for 2022.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/09/ford-stops-reservations-for-f-150-lightning-electric-pickup-because-of-demand-ceo-tells-cramer.html

20 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Ford stops reservations for F-150 Lightning electric pickup due to strong demand, CEO tells Cramer

Ford CEO Jim Farley said Thursday that interest in the automaker’s soon-to-launch F-150 Lightning electric pickup truck is so great that it had to stop taking reservations.

 

“We are completely oversubscribed with our battery electric vehicles, Lightning especially,” Farley said in an interview during a special live online event, “CNBC Investing Club: Jim Cramer’s Game Plan for 2022.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/09/ford-stops-reservations-for-f-150-lightning-electric-pickup-because-of-demand-ceo-tells-cramer.html

Wish MG would offer E-truck.  Main reason I didn't buy, as only offer diesel.

I think this thread establishes the inevitability  of ekectric vehicles. Both industry and infrastructure are heading that way at high speed. 

As pricuction volumes increase, prices will tumble and as tech improves range will improve.

It’s inevitable…the decision between auto makers and Govt’s was made years back! No one can stop it and no one (who counts) wants to!

NIOs latest reveal, the ET5 can reach over 550 km. with the standard range battery and in excess of 1,000 km. with the long range battery option. 
 

 

I’m assuming we should be a little pessimistic about these distances as we were/are about EPA gas mileage ratings ???? However some huge strides being made by the battery and auto makers????

They really need to bring the pricing down to the everyday consumer.  

$30-40-50+k USD vehicles are simply out of reach for most families.  Really hard to justify, even if having the extra money.

 

Love my MG ZS (non EV), but $20+k USD is pushing it for a 4 wheel machine to go from point A-B.  Sadly, that's considered inexpensive for a comfy car.

 

Shy of 37k for EV model, even though paying for itself in the long run, hard to commit at 68 yrs old, or justify if trying to raise a family in Thailand.  Not in most folk's budget. 

 

$37k / ฿1.2 mill is about the same price as my house build at present, and that's an inexpensive house.  Spending that amount for transport is hard to justify for most people.

 

 

I will probably consider one of these. Now made in Thailand

 

6 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

I will probably consider one of these. Now made in Thailand

 

Check out the MG line also.  The EP and ZS EV are both very nice & competitively price, as pricing goes, 1 mill and 1.2 mill respectfully.  Comes w/8 yr battery warranties. ????

https://www.mgcars.com/th/Home

Great Wall Motors' Ora Good Cat came to visit Robinson Surin yesterday. 48kWh Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery 400km range ฿989,000

 

 https://www.gwm.co.th/ora-good-cat/

 

I know it's a little thing, but I like the fact that the phone charging pad is positioned very centrally so that you can clearly see the phone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

43 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

They really need to bring the pricing down to the everyday consumer.  

Who are "they"?

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Who are "they"?

????????????????

Everyone involved that isn't the end consumer. ????

 

2 hours ago, seedy said:

 

Is it just me, or does anyone else find this guy unwatchable? 

3 hours ago, macahoom said:

Is it just me, or does anyone else find this guy unwatchable? 

You don't find a car salesman entertaining? One who has repeatedly predicted the demise of Tesla. And because of the fact that Tesla sells its vehicles directly to the consumer, will never be able to earn a commission from selling them.

Yep - all you Yahoos have his knowledge? Or just lost touch with reality, and choose to not entertain anything which goes against your views.

He is a Mechanical Engineer - what are your qualifications ?

Internet WaWa 555

I stumbled across this report from Volvo which shows an Electric Vehicle creates a 70% larger carbon footprint for manufacturing and disposal compared to a petrol car.

https://group.volvocars.com/news/sustainability/2020/~/media/ccs/Volvo_carbonfootprintreport.pdf

 

7 minutes ago, seedy said:

I stumbled across this report from Volvo which shows an Electric Vehicle creates a 70% larger carbon footprint for manufacturing and disposal compared to a petrol car.

https://group.volvocars.com/news/sustainability/2020/~/media/ccs/Volvo_carbonfootprintreport.pdf

Couldn't have come to that conclusion because they're profit margin is much higher with ICE vehicles, and maybe know they are behind the competition in producing & selling EVs.

 

Disposal of the batteries of EVs is and should never be an issue, as can be used when removed.  Definitely a market for those EV battery banks, whether for home solar systems or solar farms.  Where ever batteries are used now.

23 minutes ago, seedy said:

He is a Mechanical Engineer ...

so he says.  Comes off as an idiot.  Agree with others, can watch him, too annoying.

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1dpSHdLcXNFMHh5NXRteU56NU1FcTF4Q1JHUXxBQ3Jtc0tuRE5MNWZUQ2l3V3QyYXlVMmxQUm55cjR0VUhLelgzbUU2ZmtZbThhUWdRNFBUWGdBM0l1RTZjUjNQUVMzellpbnh6MDY0N2kxcTZhVDVCRmlQQV9tLTNkVlhGZUx6eklxZEhOSkdheWRVejIxSGIzVQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zemo.org.uk%2Fassets%2Fworkingdocuments%2FMC-P-11-15a%20Lifecycle%20emissions%20report.pdf

 

Choose leave YouTube and PDF downloads

On 12/25/2021 at 5:57 PM, macahoom said:

Is it just me, or does anyone else find this guy unwatchable?

I agree with @macahoom this bogan is unwatchable, so I'm not fact checking any more of his videos - bias assumed and move on

 

On 12/19/2021 at 8:15 AM, Peterw42 said:

I will probably consider one of these. Now made in Thailand

 

I heard the hiso ladies in Bangkok are going crazy over that little tin can car.

 

I also heard it cost about 1/2 mill baht i China which sounds about right, 1 mill is highway robbery. 

8 hours ago, seedy said:

I stumbled across this report from Volvo which shows an Electric Vehicle creates a 70% larger carbon footprint for manufacturing and disposal compared to a petrol car.

https://group.volvocars.com/news/sustainability/2020/~/media/ccs/Volvo_carbonfootprintreport.pdf

And given your past track record, it's not surprising that you are, as usual, cherry-picking. From that report:

8 hours ago, seedy said:

Yep - all you Yahoos have his knowledge? Or just lost touch with reality, and choose to not entertain anything which goes against your views.

He is a Mechanical Engineer - what are your qualifications ?

Internet WaWa 555

Quik! Someone call Ford, Mercedes, Volvo, VW, Toyota, Tesla, Jaguar and tell them some Clodhopper/mechanical engineer in Australia says they are doing it all wrong. Internal combustion engines, burning dinosaur doo is the future.