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It’s expats, not tourists that are visiting Thailand: Business leader

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21 minutes ago, Freddy42OZ said:

I doubt any of them were expats based on how they were dressed.  They all looked like tourists and most of them looked like sexpats.

It's people from Pattaya that's gone to Bangkok because of the Pattaya alcohol ban.

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    He should get a job at TAT.

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    The majority of us knew this already. Many friends I have have returned after being gone for a long time in order to return to family with less restrictive measures put on them that create financial h

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3 minutes ago, EricTh said:

The biggest turnoff were the health insurance and the expensive one day quarantine.

 

If they could just remove the ridiculous health insurance and do a quick Covid test that we wait for just 15 minutes, then more genuine tourists will come.

 

I wonder what's the target tourists arrival for November?  

 

If the numbers fall short of the target, hopefully , the Thai govt would remove the two obstacles above.

The risk of testing positive on arrival and being sent to quarantine will put off most tourists. I don't think speeding up the arrival test would make a difference. 

 

Full vaccination plus a covid test before departure should be sufficient. 

 

 

Just now, Nojohndoe said:

Not at all sure of your reply as to interpretation.

A chemical mixture can be a random or it can be with a degree of  educated yet assumed expectation of result that does not necessarily achieve such desired expectations.

Nevertheless, things change without interference or drama. Things change when they have to, communism in Russia was defeated without a war, time killed it. Vietnam and Afghanistan showed that interference is futile, counterproductive even, things will change there all in good time and so it will be with Thailand.

1 minute ago, CG1 Blue said:

The risk of testing positive on arrival and being sent to quarantine will put off most tourists.

Absolutely, but I'm not sure there is a disclaimer/small print/info in the public domain of sorts when applying that this scenario could pan out..................................let alone have to pay for it oneself...............jeez

6 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Full vaccination plus a covid test before departure should be sufficient. 

Tests before departure is worthless as there is no accrediting body, anyone can write a certificate.

In Sweden a company got caught in june issuing 100.000 certificates without testing the samples , just pocketing the money (300 Mbaht)

 

Thanet Supharothatrangsi, chairman of the Chonburi Tourism Business Association is a courageous man who is not scared of telling the truth instead of kissing the boots of the governing generals.  There are no tourists coming to Thailand right now and all with common sense know it.  The Thai people and Thai business community are suffering, they have been deprived of a job and income without any compensation, how can they survive without a salary?  Only by walking anywhere in Bangkok and one will see all business are closed and for rent or worse for sale.

many are too brassick to think of thai trips for years

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Thailand trying to make as much $$$ from every tourist upon entry and now it's come back to bite them good and proper. 

They only have themselves to blame .....

 

I can't wait to see a TG aircraft get seized in Europe or somewhere from an angry creditor.   Lol  

that would be the icing on the cake   !    ????

19 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

The risk of testing positive on arrival and being sent to quarantine will put off most tourists. I don't think speeding up the arrival test would make a difference. 

 

Full vaccination plus a covid test before departure should be sufficient. 

 

 

 

certainly, that's the route many other countries are going down. however, thailand's vaccination programme is still well behind the curve and they, probably with justification, are worried about whether their health care system could cope with a large number of covid cases. so don't expect any change in the near future.

6 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

thailand's vaccination programme is still well behind the curve and they, probably with justification, are worried about whether their health care system could cope with a large number of covid cases.

Eloquently put...........................................

32 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Nevertheless, things change without interference or drama. Things change when they have to, communism in Russia was defeated without a war, time killed it. Vietnam and Afghanistan showed that interference is futile, counterproductive even, things will change there all in good time and so it will be with Thailand.

Things change more often when conditions make it necessary IMO. Little changes without  a dramatic imperative. Wars bring change even if instituted  by  foreign interests on a subjected population to political conflict. The USSR was systematically rendered a failure due to a fundemental flaw in ideology accelerated  by interference from a major opposing nation that  currently has exposed equivalent flaws in the imposed dictate of alternative political ideology .

The reality of the current state of global human sustainable existence is in the dubious control of those politically empowered by whatever means to extract where possible continuance of power to enhance said power or financial benefit derived from as  long as can be sustained !

 

 

17 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

He will be transferred tomorrow.

This may or may not be. He is not in a political position.

Anyway let's hope for the brave Khun Thanet his opinion will do him and his affiliated business members more good than harm.

The guy clearly earns the fullest respect.

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Once the entry requirement is reduced to a passport and proof of vaccination, they might start getting meaningful results

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Airlines giving up landing Slots till April.   What more proof need there be to understand tourists Aint Stupid enough to be going to Thailand.

 

49 minutes ago, bronzedude said:

Thanet for Prime Minister!

Abolished all those Thai insurances and keep control on those overcharged Thai hospitals bills instead.

I see an "inactive post" in this man's future.

36 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

 

certainly, that's the route many other countries are going down. however, thailand's vaccination programme is still well behind the curve and they, probably with justification, are worried about whether their health care system could cope with a large number of covid cases. so don't expect any change in the near future.

The Vax program had an abysmal start but they have done well for the last three months. The will be close to 70% fully vaxed by the end of December.  That's as far as countries in the west have gotten. After that, the public demand for vaccinations will wane.

You didn't mention the billionaires that they are now attracting. They must be pouring in on their private jets, spending $millions in Tescos and Seven11 on crisps and Chang. Stocking up for Xmas to spend on their own.

 

If not, welcome to the new Myanmar.

Alternative thinking: Khun Thanet is mad because the "quality" tourists he was expecting haven't yet materialized.

Finally somebody of note with cojones to state the obvious loud and clear. More businesses within Thailand should speak up on the absurdity of this whole arrangement and hope it makes a difference

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7 hours ago, Will B Good said:

....and many on here, including me, think the above scenario is exactly what Prayut wants.........no tourists, or at least  not the ones that enjoy nights out, drinking, clubbing etc.

 

Early grey and cucumber sandwiches might be all that is on offer eventually.

Totally agree!

 

Covids a gift for Prayut and his puritanical hypocritical mates, it allows them to control the serf's at the same time as cleansing their lost face from Thailand's naughty nightlife and those embarrassing poor peiople 

 

All part of the master plan and so what if a few of the poor go under, there's plenty more and the good folk continue to get richer!!

 

 

11 hours ago, webfact said:

The only arrivals are not true tourists at all. Just business people, property owners or those with families.

So, the average tourist spends as much in 2 weeks as I do in 3 months. 

 

Let's say $3000USD.

 

But I typically stay 6 months or more.

 

So, I end up spending more money than a tourist per trip. ????

 

11 minutes ago, mark131v said:

Covids a gift for Prayut and his puritanical hypocritical mates, it allows them to control the serf's

Ah, the insane Qanon theory that COVID is intentional, allowing governments to "control" people...

 

By asking them to wear masks and get vaccines for their benefit. 

 

Whaaaaat? Totally absurd.

 

But lots of ignorant, uneducated people believe that. ????

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1 minute ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Ah, the insane Qanon theory that COVID is intentional, allowing governments to "control" people.

 

By asking them to wear masks and get vaccines for their benefit.

 

Totally absurd.

 

But lots of ignorant, uneducated people believe that. ????

Nope!!!

 

Most countries are not making the ham-fisted farce that Prayut and the good folk in Thailand are, you'd be forgiven for thinking their loving it!

 

Hard to believe even the dim, incompetent hypocrites in charge could completely <deleted> up covid/reopening/vaccines (insert anything you like) to such a degree

 

As always with these creatures it is <deleted> all to do with protecting anybody other than their bank balances, horrible, horrible creatures...

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2 hours ago, BE88 said:

I agree with you but for what reason? 

 

 
Why destroy their economy voluntarily?

 

They hate the image presented to the world of Pattaya, Nana, Soi Cowboy and they  also are teetotalers and can't understand the obsession (if that is the right word) with alcohol, bars, night clubs etc......

 

 

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

They hate the image presented to the world of Pattaya, Nana, Soi Cowboy and they  also are teetotalers and can't understand the obsession (if that is the right word) with alcohol, bars, night clubs etc......

 

 

Face uber alles!!

2 hours ago, thailand49 said:

This guy should seriously think about running for PM!  now that he has spoken truth the squeeze will be on the best of luck down the road?

 

The guy is a business man not a blood sucker free loader getting rich off the back of their own people!

Well.......that's not how it works here. 

No one freely campaigns as an elected PM, almost are deliberately selected or appointed in the usual manipulated manner by club members.

Duh! All of us knew that and many said/predicted as much.

LOS... Land of Stooges. ????

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