Leader of Pro-Ivermectin Group Got Covid

[Scott]

Here is a snippet from a study which reviewed the data from a number of other studies.  It is noted that many of the studies were biased in favor of use of Ivermectin, in spite of that, this is the conclusion:

 

Based on the current very low- to low-certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of ivermectin used to treat or prevent COVID-19. The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality. Several studies are underway that may produce clearer answers in review updates. Overall, the reliable evidence available does not support the use ivermectin for treatment or prevention of COVID-19 outside of well-designed randomized trials.

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34318930/

[OneMoreFarang]

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

Anyway, I'm sure now that once Ivermectin believers check out the veracity of this report, they will at least question their faith in it and the competence of Pierre Kory, MD

Since when do people who believe care about facts? 

[placeholder]

48 minutes ago, internationalism said:

I am not a historian, but I do remember some of them. 
probably the best if you ask google or siri. 

India, which was the poster child for Ivermectin use, has now dropped it from its list of approved medications for treating covid

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, internationalism said:

I am referring to all the studies on antiviral properties of iver done over the last tens of years in thousands, well before covid19. 
it worked for sars and mers

No it didn't, stop spreading fake news.

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, internationalism said:

I am not a historian, but I do remember some of them. 
probably the best if you ask google or siri. 

So name them if you remember them

[mikebike]

1 hour ago, internationalism said:

So they are not veterinarian

Hmmm... I get almost all my animals meds at the human pharmacy, they are cheaper than the vet. Most medical have uses in both worlds, so where you buy them really means less than zero.

[mikebike]

1 hour ago, internationalism said:

I am not a historian, but I do remember some of them. 
probably the best if you ask google or siri. 

Yes, because human memory has been proven to be infallible and not subject to false memories... oi vey. 

[NanLaew]

13 hours ago, Airalee said:

Maybe if he didn’t take it he would have gotten sicker.  Nobody knows.  Studies are needed.

You're kidding me?

Edited November 19, 2021 by NanLaew

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, 300sd said:

Of course the Atlantic and John Hopkins are funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. Gee I think he also controls many more newpapers around the world. Doesn't he own part of Pfizer? Of course that horse medicine is poison.

Why would Bill Gates have an interest in Ivermectin?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

Why would Bill Gates have an interest in Ivermectin?

Regardless, be sure he’s not taking it for anything COVID related.

[ThailandRyan]

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

He said he got Covid in August. That's all he said. I'm not speculating at all. Just pointing out that he offered very minimal data. He may be fine now, he may not be fine now. We don't know. I'm just pointing out that he offered very limited information. But the information he did offer contradicted his claim that "If you take Ivermectin, you won't get sick."

Here is some more info

https://www.rojakpot.com/dr-pierre-kory-covid-19-ivermectin/

Dr. Pierre Kory (and his daughter) got infected with COVID-19, despite taking the FLCCC ivermectin prophylaxis protocol!

Watch our video, and find out WHY he got COVID-19 despite taking ivermectin!

Dr. Pierre Kory Gets COVID-19, Despite Taking Ivermectin!

Sometime in August 2021, Dr. Pierre Kory admitted in an FLCCC Zoom call that he got infected with COVID-19, several days after his daughter caught it.

Imagine that – the FLCCC cheerleader himself was infected with COVID-19, despite taking the I-MASK+ ivermectin prophylaxis he had been promoting for months!

That FLCCC session video was posted in several places (including YouTube), but quickly deleted soon after. It’s as if ivermectin proponents are trying to bury the video to avoid the public finding out that their ivermectin hero contracted COVID-19…

Thanks to the awesome detective work by Dr. Jickee, I managed to get my hands on the FLCCC video! To avoid the video being taken down, I created this mash-up with my own text commentary.

You will be able to see and hear Dr. Pierre Kory himself admit that he contracted COVID-19, despite telling the US Senate twice that “if you take it, you won’t get sick [with COVID-19)”

 

Why Dr. Pierre Kory Got COVID-19 Despite Taking Ivermectin…

To be clear – I’m not ecstatic that Dr. Pierre Kory was infected by COVID-19. It only seemed inevitable, based on current evidence. But I am certainly enthusiastic about the teaching moment here, even if it’s only anecdotal – the value of which Dr. Kory ironically touts to be as valuable as RCTs… #eyeroll

Fact #1 : Dr. Pierre Kory Admitted He Contracted COVID-19

As the video above shows, Dr. Pierre Kory admitted that he contracted COVID-19, despite being on the FLCCC I-MASK+ ivermectin protocol.

Fact #2 : Dr. Pierre Kory Did Not Get Infected By COVID-19 Patient

We would have expected Dr. Kory to be infected while working on the “frontlines”, where the viral load is so high that the chances of a “breakthrough infection” is significant.

The truth is Dr. Pierre Kory resigned from his hospital – Aurora St. Luke sometime in January 2021, so he had no contact with COVID-19 patients.

[ThailandRyan]

A little more from the above article I linked

Dr. Kory Admitted Ivermectin Not Working Against Delta Variant

Despite earlier claiming that ivermectin works on all COVID-19 variants just as well as the original SARS-CoV-2 virus, Dr. Pierre Kory himself admitted in the video above that ivermectin is failing to prevent infections from “new variants”.

In an earlier tweet, he even admitted that the Delta variant patients are “not showing responses to MATH+“, even saying that the FLCCC Alliance members are “demoralized and frightened“.

Did the FLCCC back the wrong horse, ivermectin? Will Ivermectin proponents now stop claiming that ivermectin works better than vaccines against the new variants?

Read more : Why Delta Variant Causes MORE Breakthrough Infections

 

[internationalism]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

THe subject of this thread is Ivermectin (a horse medicine).

 

It has uses in human medicine which are supported by scientific clinical trials.

 

None of those uses supported by scientific clinical trials include treatment or prevention of COVID.

Iver is as much horse medicine as human, dog, cat, pig, cow, sheep or any other mammal, thousands of species. 
read research on "ivermectin virus" excluding covid 19 and even all coronavirus. You can start from the oldest research done tens of years ago. That research would include all mammals

Edited November 19, 2021 by internationalism

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, internationalism said:

Iver is as much horse medicine as human, dog, cat, pig, cow, sheep or any other mammal, thousands of species. 
read research on "ivermectin virus" excluding covid 19 and even all coronavirus. You can start from the oldest research done tens of years ago. That research would include all mammals

Ivermectin is truly a wonder drug. That, it has not been tested on "thousands of species much less "all mammals". Currently there are about 6400 species of extant mammals. Stop making things up.

[blackprince]

Out of 26 Ivermectin studies analysed, up to 24 were dodgy.

"Out of a total of 26 studies examined, there was evidence in five that the data may have been faked - for example they contained virtually impossible numbers or rows of identical patients copied and pasted.

In a further five there were major red flags - for example, numbers didn't add up, percentages were calculated incorrectly or local health bodies weren't aware they had taken place.

On top of these flawed trials, there were 14 authors of studies who failed to send data back. The independent scientists have flagged this as a possible indicator of fraud."

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58170809

Edited November 19, 2021 by blackprince

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, internationalism said:

Iver is as much horse medicine as human, dog, cat, pig, cow, sheep or any other mammal, thousands of species. 
read research on "ivermectin virus" excluding covid 19 and even all coronavirus. You can start from the oldest research done tens of years ago. That research would include all mammals

Ivermectin is not an effective medication for COVID - Period!

 

How’s the list of countries you owe us coming along?

[sezze]

This s***t still flying around ....

Don't want to take a official tested and reviewed vaccine , but want to take some non reviewed medicine for a viral infection .

The amount of medicines around for viral infections is small . There used to be only 1 , Aciclovir , working against Herpes . This only changed when HIV/Aids started where they did huge research on , and found some medication working in slowing down infections . Ivermectin has been in use since 1977 so before this time . They did found Iver... working against some virus strains , maybe this is where the covid believe comes from .

Anyway , do you believe that the company making it ( there are more since it is around for some while ) , Merck btw , who do have no vaccine for Covid do not want this to be subscribed for Covid ? Since the drug is on the market long time , the test would not take long , but yet doesn't do so . This all should raise your alarm bells as somebody saying "this works for Covid" .

Reviews and tests are specific focused on that , finding out on a group of persons if it works or not , since it has to be double blind studies . This also rules out the persons , since of all things , we are all human and react different on all kinds of stuff . This means there has to be a difference in the 2 groups , and it needs to be significant . None of that happened ....

Ivermectin does not work period .... take a vaccine, it has been tested and reviewed .

BTW , some medication is underway , but Iver... is not 1 of them .

[placeholder]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Ivermectin is not an effective medication for COVID - Period!

 

How’s the list of countries you owe us coming along?

Well there were some countries that tried it on:

Why HCQ and Ivermectin were removed from India’s Covid-19 treatment protocol

The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) and the National Task Force on Covid-19 have dropped the use of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) drugs from their revised guidelines for the treatment of the infection.

The decision was taken after experts found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.

https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/why-hcq-ivermectin-dropped-india-covid-treatment-protocol-1857306-2021-09-26

 

Brazil's tragic ivermectin frenzy is a warning to the US, experts say

In Brazil, ivermectin is a commonly prescribed anti parasitic drug.
Early on in the pandemic, Brazilians thought that ivermectin might also help treat and prevent COVID-19.
But, as one ICU doctor put it: "We Brazilians had to learn in the hardest way that ivermectin didn't work." 

https://www.businessinsider.com/brazil-tragic-ivermectin-for-covid-frenzy-warning-to-us-experts-2021-9

 

In India particular attention was devoted to Uttar Pradesh which claimed astounding rates of cure and prevention for ivermectin. But when medical statisticians started looking at Uttar Pradesh's mortality figures, they noticed that mortality had jumped by 100% over the previous year. But none of those deaths were attributed to covid-19. Truly an amazing coincidence, though.

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, internationalism said:

Iver is as much horse medicine as human, dog, cat, pig, cow, sheep or any other mammal, thousands of species. 
read research on "ivermectin virus" excluding covid 19 and even all coronavirus. You can start from the oldest research done tens of years ago. That research would include all mammals

The FDA, CDC, and many other health agencies urge people not to use Ivermectin as a treatment for Covid.

 

And *you* claim that Ivermectin  works to fight Covid.

 

can you remind us what medical school you graduated from?

[billd766]

20 hours ago, Airalee said:

Did he live?

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a38281370/pierre-kory-ivermectin-catches-covid/

 

From what I can gather from the report he survived.

 

20 hours ago, sungod said:

Nobody, so follow your own advice and stop speculating for points.

 

he may not be sick at all.

Read the link above and stop speculating yourself.

[billd766]

8 hours ago, internationalism said:

That the whole countries included them in an official treatment for covid

Which countries would that be?

 

8 hours ago, internationalism said:

I am not a historian, but I do remember some of them. 
probably the best if you ask google or siri. 

But you brought that to the thread, so you must have an idea of which and how many countries there are.

[sungod]

17 minutes ago, billd766 said:

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a38281370/pierre-kory-ivermectin-catches-covid/

 

From what I can gather from the report he survived.

 

Read the link above and stop speculating yourself.

Great, come in half way through and start dictating. Read the thread, his survival was never questioned, just asked if he was actually sick. The report does not say that.

[billd766]

2 minutes ago, sungod said:

Great, come in half way through and start dictating. Read the thread, his survival was never questioned, just asked if he was actually sick. The report does not say that.

But dictating was what you are/were doing.

 

BTW the forum is for discussion by any member. If you don't like the posts I made/make then put me on your ignore list.

[Danderman123]

15 minutes ago, sungod said:

Great, come in half way through and start dictating. Read the thread, his survival was never questioned, just asked if he was actually sick. The report does not say that.

Read the thread. He reported that he was sick.

 

How do you explain that someone taking Ivermectin as a prophylactic for Covid got Covid?

 

I am taking Forsythia as a prophylactic, it seems to work okay.

[sungod]

12 minutes ago, billd766 said:

But dictating was what you are/were doing.

 

BTW the forum is for discussion by any member. If you don't like the posts I made/make then put me on your ignore list.

No that's ok, but if do do want to join in, please try to stay on topic, there's a good chap! ????

[sungod]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Read the thread. He reported that he was sick.

 

How do you explain that someone taking Ivermectin as a prophylactic for Covid got Covid?

 

I am taking Forsythia as a prophylactic, it seems to work okay.

I read the report the poster supplied, just says he contracted covid. Didn't say he was sick. But if you say he was and it makes you happy, I'll believe you.

[mikebike]

22 minutes ago, sungod said:

Great, come in half way through and start dictating. Read the thread, his survival was never questioned, just asked if he was actually sick. The report does not say that.

Apparently you have yet to learn what "sick" means.

[mikebike]

4 minutes ago, sungod said:

I read the report the poster supplied, just says he contracted covid. Didn't say he was sick. But if you say he was and it makes you happy, I'll believe you.

Ok. Define "sick" in your mind. Most of us think it means contracting a disease... if you have another definition, I'm sure we, and all the medical profession would like to hear it and learn from your expertise...

[sungod]

1 minute ago, mikebike said:

Ok. Define "sick" in your mind. Most of us think it means contracting a disease... if you have another definition, I'm sure we, and all the medical profession would like to hear it and learn from your expertise...

If i had contracted covid and didn't feel sick, then I would not be sick in my mind. I would however self isolate. Hows that?

[mikebike]

12 minutes ago, sungod said:

If i had contracted covid and didn't feel sick, then I would not be sick in my mind. I would however self isolate. Hows that?

So you DO understand that you would have been "sick". 

 

I think the term u r looking for is "asymptomatic", not "sick".