Brit, 82, arrested in Nong Khai on child sex abuse charges

[cyril sneer]

54 minutes ago, thai006 said:

Death penalty for that kind of <deleted> <deleted> 

it's usually people with comments like these are actually paedos themselves

 

we saw it in the 80s and 90s with similar comments towards gays

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

ASEAN NOW suggests that the presence of Surachate indicates that this is part of a high profile and visible move against foreigners living in Thailand preying on children and their Thai facilitators.

Facilitators are as sick as the pedophiles...

[ivor bigun]

now who was it that married a 6 year old  ,i believe billions of people follow him, what we as westerners cant grasp is that it is quite the norm in many countrys . 

[Nickelbeer]

Castrate and deport.

[bert bloggs]

When i first came to Thailand half the bars seemed to have 14 and 15 yr olds in them , i was taken to a bar on sukhumvit by a taxi driver i knew , i couldnt believe the ages of most of the girls 18 was old,we left ,but they were very common.

[Doctor Tom]

4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Regardless of how one chooses to break the law, you eventually become illegal. Escorted straight to the airport and GONE.

In this case, if proven, he will no doubt die in Jail, so not going anywhere and you don't need a valid visa for that to happen

[Spock]

1 minute ago, Doctor Tom said:

In this case, if proven, he will no doubt die in Jail, so not going anywhere and you don't need a valid visa for that to happen

Can't imagine a worse punishment than being 80 in a Thai jail.

[Freddy42OZ]

5 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Seems a bit silly to revoke his visa ahead of dealing with the sex charges first, unless they want to add being illegally in the country too !

 

Still I'm sure most of us will be wishing him a happy 20 years or so on boiled rice if he is guilty

He's 82, it would have to be bloody magic rice to keep him alive for 20 more years!

[David T Pike]

I don't know what it is like for pedos in prison in Thailand but in the USA a "Short Eyes" convict usually get their ass beat on a daily basis in Gen Pop!  I hope they tune his ass up good!

[Doctor Tom]

1 minute ago, Spock said:

Can't imagine a worse punishment than being 80 in a Thai jail.

If he is indeed guilty then he deserves it, but I'm with you, its a horrifying prospect. 

[ThaiFelix]

Which one?  The one sitting down or the one obviously caught off guard and dragged out of the shower in a hurry?

[Phredd]

If nobody purchased stolen goods there would be no thieves, so those that purchase stolen goods are more to blame than the thief. Therefore, in this instance, the so called parents are in lots of ways more guilty than the dirty old man?

[herfiehandbag]

6 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Seems a bit silly to revoke his visa ahead of dealing with the sex charges first, unless they want to add being illegally in the country too !

 

Still I'm sure most of us will be wishing him a happy 20 years or so on boiled rice if he is guilty

I rather suspect that he will be quickly expelled from the country.

At 82 there would be little point in sending him to prison - he would only cause problems for the prison authorities. 

 

Any sentence would neither reform, nor punish him, nor deter others; he would affectively remain anonymous  and be dead within months. He would have pretty well got away with it.

 

Deported to the UK would result in trial and sentencing there. He would then serve a much longer sentence, probably still die in prison, but the attendant publicity would also have the effect of shaming him, and possibly deterring others.

 

He is a sick man, he has done abhorrent things. Punishment will mean nothing to him, the only worthwhile thing is to make him an example to deter others.

Edited December 28, 2021 by herfiehandbag

[robblok]

30 minutes ago, Phredd said:

If nobody purchased stolen goods there would be no thieves, so those that purchase stolen goods are more to blame than the thief. Therefore, in this instance, the so called parents are in lots of ways more guilty than the dirty old man?

There must first be a demand before there is a supply. So the guy is worse, parents are poor (probably) people needing money. Guy just exploiting it. I wonder why so many foreigners defend this guy. Why is that whenever a farang has done anything wrong defenders shoot up sky high but the moment we can criticize Thailand the topic goes for countless pages... i wonder. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

36 minutes ago, Phredd said:

If nobody purchased stolen goods there would be no thieves, so those that purchase stolen goods are more to blame than the thief. Therefore, in this instance, the so called parents are in lots of ways more guilty than the dirty old man?

No way . 

The guy is guilty of abusing Children .

The Parents are guilty of supplying the Children .

The Courts can decide which one gets the highest jail term 

[Darksidedude]

throw the book at this nasty <deleted> and lock him up with sex offenders so he will get his just deserved

[Mac Mickmanus]

21 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

I rather suspect that he will be quickly expelled from the country.

At 82 there would be little point in sending him to prison - he would only cause problems for the prison authorities. 

 

Any sentence would neither reform, nor punish him, nor deter others; he would affectively remain anonymous  and be dead within months. He would have pretty well got away with it.

 

Deported to the UK would result in trial and sentencing there. He would then serve a much longer sentence, probably still die in prison, but the attendant publicity would also have the effect of shaming him, and possibly deterring others.

 

He is a sick man, he has done abhorrent things. Punishment will mean nothing to him, the only worthwhile thing is to make him an example to deter others.

Getting a free flight back to the U.K and then getting housed in special wing in a jail in luxurious conditions (compared to Thai jails) and getting fed and medical treatment may actually encourage people to commit a crime, rather than deterring them .

   Spending the rest of your life in terrible conditions in a Thai jail is much more of a deterrent 

[koele2]

Oh, so now they are cracking down?  Maybe 30 years too late.  Are they cracking down because it’s wrong, or because there’s no money in it for them, or because their country is known for it and it is an embarrassment?  Sad the question even needs to be asked.

[humqdpf]

7 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Sickening that anyone touch an under aged child, that said if one had enough evidence to convict, one could ask the shoe size of the alleged and then open the cell door, telling them that they are free, later advising the court that the alleged disappeared, problem sorted. 

 

I would think that word would spread quickly amongst their own and if that was also reported, i.e. after arrested paedophiles kept disappearing, the others might just get it, that or have their shoes sizes taken when arrested and have justice served.

 

Which do you think is worse? The pedophile who has sex with children or the parent who sells their own child to a pedophile?

 

Much as I am against pedophiles, they are mentally ill at least. The parents are a different matter. Selling your own child to be raped? That just has to be the worst. If such parents were not forthcoming, offering their children, then there would be fewer children being raped by pedphiles.

[Thingamabob]

7 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Sickening that anyone touch an under aged child, that said if one had enough evidence to convict, one could ask the shoe size of the alleged and then open the cell door, telling them that they are free, later advising the court that the alleged disappeared, problem sorted. 

 

I would think that word would spread quickly amongst their own and if that was also reported, i.e. after arrested paedophiles kept disappearing, the others might just get it, that or have their shoes sizes taken when arrested and have justice served.

 

This doesn't make sense.

[Thunglom]

If foreign pedophiles are still coming to Thailand it is because the country is providing a suitable environment. So just blaming foreigners is not addressing the root of the problem - the problem must be endemic to Thailand and that is whereto focus should be.

[Thingamabob]

This is bad news for foreigners here. 

[Harveyboy]

6 hours ago, fangless said:

I am sure the above must be a misquote and he meant "he intends to rid Thailand of ALL foreign pedophiles"

yes i picked that up ALL..

[wensiensheng]

Why is it big news that these people will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law? That should be a given, day in and day out, not some kind of special effort from the police on an ad hoc basis.

[Venom]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

His computer revealed frequent visits to child pornography sites,

How are these sites even allowed to exist? ????

[sanuk711]

3 hours ago, Percy P said:

May be a British citizen but is he British.

I dont know Percy....... Has Prince Andrew got his citizenship yet....?

 

**Ranida Leuantgthitisakul said that five under aged girls aged between 10 and 17

[Acharn]

Well, they're going to find some evil farangs, which I'm glad of, but everybody should know that by far most of the people who are into this kind of thing are Thai. Indeed, most of them are family members or at least well known to the children. The new law imposes serious penalties on those who abuse children under 15, especially if payment is involved. Back in the 2000s a sitting Senator was convicted and sent to prison for taking underage girls to "curtain hotels." This jamoke is in a world of hurt. Before the new law in December, 1996, it was quite common for girls to enter the sex trade when they were 15 or 16, and I used to know one very pretty half Korean girl whose mother put her to work when she was 14. After all, through most of human history women married at 13 or 14, otherwise they couldn't have enough children to be sure at least a couple survived to care for them in their old age (that's what "honor your father and mother" means).

[cocoonclub]

3 hours ago, tandor said:

...all about the money.

To be “about the money” you need someone willing to accept your money. I cannot believe no one noticed that an 80yo westerner was trying to find such “supplier”. 

[Chris.B]

3 hours ago, chuang said:

Why child abuse always involved farangs....

Because when Thai do it, it's kept quiet. ☹️ No social services visiting homes here. 

[brianthainess]

IMO there are a lot more Thai paedophiles than foreign, but they can not be deported, so a witch hunt by Big Joke on foreigners will begin to up his profile. I hope he can stamp them out though.