Picture: Daily News

 

Violence erupted at a Bangkok beer garden last night that resulted in the death of a non-commissioned army colonel who was stabbed four times in the back.

 

He died later in hospital.

 

The assailant fled the scene and is being sought by Sai Mai police.

 

Cops at the scene of The Pratu Krung Thep beer garden found a lot of blood on the road to the rear.

 

Col Attakorn, 49, had already been taken to hospital.

 

A witness said that the colonel had joined their group at Pratu Krung Thep Plaza where they were drinking.

 

He had announced that "Nobody loves me - only you guys".

 

Nobody took the stranger too seriously, they just clinked glasses and got merrily drunk together.

 

When this shop closed the colonel tagged along with his newfound mates who met some soldiers at a table in the beer garden, reported Daily News.

 

They put the drunk colonel in a taxi home as they didn't know he had driven there.

 

But the taxi soon returned and the colonel got out and started having an argument with a man armed with a stick or club.

 

A red plastic chair was kicked and damaged by the colonel that enraged the man who would soon kill him.

 

The fight got more serious as the assailant kicked the colonel's vehicle door.

 

The colonel was then stabbed repeatedly. 

 

The assailant said he didn't mean to do anything and didn't know the colonel - he just recognised him as someone who sold vintage clothes. 

 

At this point the colonel was still very much alive and asked that his father be contacted.

 

There had been plenty of teasing but no one thought it would come to this. They were all very drunk.

 

A man helped the assailant escape the scene in a car.

 

Police are studying CCTV to get a lead in the case. 

 

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It remains so fascinating that several users here push the narrative that Thais have some sort of next-level peacefulness, when we see so many instances of Thais killing each other over the slightest and most trivial indiscretions.

 

Very sad for an evening to end up this way.  Especially attacked from behind with a weapon.

 

So often we see this senseless violence, normally followed by the perpetrator being led away and warning others not to be like them.  I wish they would teach about consequences a little more here.  But then maybe it wouldn't be as fun or relaxing as it is...

Without philosophizing too much on the matter, that's what loosing control dose to people when you're stupid drunk , as simple as that...

Would someone care to enlighten me - ' a non-commissioned Army Colonel' -???

6 minutes ago, Havenstreet1940 said:

Would someone care to enlighten me - ' a non-commissioned Army Colonel' -???

Isn't NCO (Non-commissioned officer) someone who did not enter the army at that rank but instead worked their way up?  I think that's what it is.  Not sure why they need the distinction.  Sounds a little elitist.

7 minutes ago, Havenstreet1940 said:

Would someone care to enlighten me - ' a non-commissioned Army Colonel' -???

Not Hi.so.

32 minutes ago, Havenstreet1940 said:

Would someone care to enlighten me - ' a non-commissioned Army Colonel' -???

I was thinking the same thing.  

2 hours ago, webfact said:

non-commissioned army colonel

No such thing, not even here. 

9 minutes ago, bbko said:

I was thinking the same thing.  

Its nonsense,  just bad reporting. 

17 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

You seldom hear of people with rank or power carrying out such acts of violence in western countries, here it seems to be much more common.

 

In the west it's normally the same demographic each time.

What rank or power was there in this altercation. The way i see it the army guy was the victim over a plastic chair. 

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1 hour ago, Doctor Tom said:

Its nonsense,  just bad reporting. 

Perhaps, because of defamation laws (bereaved family might "get on the case") they could not bring themselves to print  De-commissioned/ dishonourably discharged........."cashiered".

 

Who knows in the land of broken mirrors, mazes and "mistakes".

 

 

1 hour ago, Havenstreet1940 said:

a non-commissioned Army Colonel' -???

commissioned Army Colonel = alive.

 

non-commissioned Army Colonel = not alive. 

3 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

commissioned Army Colonel = alive.

 

non-commissioned Army Colonel = not alive. 

The Thai article says he's "retired" so maybe something was lost in translation.

2 hours ago, Havenstreet1940 said:

Would someone care to enlighten me - ' a non-commissioned Army Colonel' -???

noncommissioned officer (NCO), also spelled non-commissioned officer, military officer appointed by a commissioned officer, generally to supervise enlisted soldiers and aid the commissioned officer corps. The noncommissioned officer corps is the administrative apparatus of the U.S. military, and NCOs are vital to the routine management of military operations for numerous countries. NCOs receive their authority from commissioned officers, who in turn receive their authority from a sovereign power.

 

NCOs typically function at the rank of sergeant but can also serve as corporals and petty officers (in the navy) and receive advanced military training. Tactical NCOs are responsible for training leaders for companies of cadets at the U.S. Military Academy, with duties ranging from teaching and supervising drill and ceremony procedures to military training.

 

Source:Britannica

https://www.britannica.com/topic/noncommissioned-officer

Both "Covid" and "Suicide" springs to mind?

4 hours ago, webfact said:

The colonel was then stabbed repeatedly.

Knives don't stab, people do.

Dude had a fatal attraction to that chair. Thai men...keep a safe distance away and be wary. Don't engage, get involved or argue. Skedaddle ASAP! ????????

2 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Isn't NCO (Non-commissioned officer) someone who did not enter the army at that rank but instead worked their way up?  I think that's what it is.  Not sure why they need the distinction.  Sounds a little elitist.

Basically you are correct, in Australia they have a similar system where a soldier has accomplished outstanding performance in his role but did not attend a Military Academy, however, there is a drawn line, I've heard of lots of 'Warrant Officers', but never to the height of Colonel without additional studies .... but who knows in Thailand where anything can be bought !

3 hours ago, Lemonltr said:

Of course violence exists everywhere and knife killings in the UK are spiraling but usually there is a motive even if sometimes minor. 

However I read more often of killings here where the attacker is  possessed by a sudden and uncontrollable instant rage over trivial issues. 

As you will know. The Thai language has a special word for this - Moho ( โมโห). 

You've obviously never met any of the nutters I've met in English pubs and venues ...

Motivation?

"Who you looking at?" " 'e screws me 'ead up" ...

Madness ... they had the ambulances on stand by in side streets at throwing out time in most of the towns I was in 'cos so many needed sometimes quite serious first aid and hospitalization after being 'glassed'. Making a verb out of a noun.

 

The "non-commissioned" part was probably either a translation error or a "civvy" error (i.e. a civvie being someone with no knowledge of the military or how it works and just throws out words and phrases they've picked up from movies).

Generally speaking, all officers are "commissioned" and would hold what is called a "commissioning scroll" that they receive when they are promoted from cadet to 2nd Lieutenant (or equivalent).

"Non-Commissioned Officers" - better known as "NCOs" are everyone who isn't a commissioned officer. Basically everyone from Private to Chief Warrant Officer.

In Canada, Junior NCOs are Privates, Corporals and Master Corporals while Senior NCOs are Sergeants and Warrant Officers/Master Warrant Officers/Chief Warrant Officers. 

In the American military they have Officers, Warrant Officers (who hold a "Warrant" or a "Warrant's Commission"), Junior and Senior NCOs. Senior NCOs are those holding Sergeant ranks (Sergeant, Staff/1st Class/Master/Top Sergeant or equivalent).

Everyone starts out as a cadet (officer school) or recruit (everyone else) and then gets promoted (or not) up the "chain". 
In some (rare) cases, an NCO may get "commissioned" and become an Officer. In my 22 years of service I knew of 3 who did that.

The article was probably written by someone who doesn't know the difference between "Commissioned" officer and "Non-Commissioned Officer". A colonel would definitely be a "commissioned" officer.

3 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Isn't NCO (Non-commissioned officer) someone who did not enter the army at that rank but instead worked their way up?  I think that's what it is.  Not sure why they need the distinction.  Sounds a little elitist.

NCO's normally finish at Regimental Sergeant Major or Sergeant Major, just below that ...... ranked lower than a Colonel but generally respected as GOAT. 

The assailant said he didn't mean to do anything and didn't know the colonel - he just recognised him as someone who sold vintage clothes. 

 

Huh? How do you stab someone 4 times in the back, like a total coward, and then claim you did not  mean to do anything. Did he really mean he would not have killed the guy if he knew he was a high ranking army officer, and that he would likely spend the rest of his life in prison due to the courts taking the case more seriously, than usual? 

I can understand the interest in military title minutia...

 

But to me, the more significant element of this report is -- the Thai guy out drinking/drunk got stabbed in the back four times and was killed, for pretty much nothing and no reason.

 

"A red plastic chair was kicked and damaged by the colonel that enraged the man who would soon kill him."

 

 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The assailant said he didn't mean to do anything and didn't know the colonel - he just recognised him as someone who sold vintage clothes.

After stabbing him... repeatedly?

Wow.

 

I'd be <deleted> if someone broke my cheap plastic chair.

3 hours ago, Havenstreet1940 said:

Would someone care to enlighten me - ' a non-commissioned Army Colonel' -???

The " Colonel " sold vintage clothes, it would appear that he had dressed himself in a military uniform of a Colonel to go out for the evening. 

3 hours ago, robblok said:

What rank or power was there in this altercation. The way i see it the army guy was the victim over a plastic chair. 

Was there not reference made to a milatary position?

1 minute ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Was there not reference made to a milatary position?

You should read better, The guy with the military position is the victim and not agressor. 

So if his new friends knew he had driven, they would’ve put him in his own car to drive home instead of a taxi?