2 minutes ago, swissie said:

Wrong!. In large parts of south America and Africa, once a female starts menstuating she is considered "a women" . Like it or not. The female as well as the male population is in complete agreement, as far as this is concerned. As it has been like this for the last 600 years.

This is bs, a girl of that age is not ready to take such decisions. 

Lately although things have opened up, the availability of ladies has gone down, many have gone to phuket and with less in Pattaya and more tourists prices are up, demand and supply does seem to work in Pattaya.

 

Personally I'm looking forward to my favourite agogos reopening

Sad that you have to go to the red lights for sex.. Not want a real relationship?? Nobody  wants you?? Is sex the only thing that is important in life?? Just a few questions  

6 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

Sad that you have to go to the red lights for sex.. Not want a real relationship?? Nobody  wants you?? Is sex the only thing that is important in life?? Just a few questions  

What is sad about having a healthy sex drive and wanting to get that without the nonsense while someone offering earns her money too. 

I think it is more sad, is that those who complain about it have either a very boring sex life (with only 1 person) OR actually cheat girls by pretending they are looking for something genuine, to then take advantage over getting 'free' sex. To not even start about the fact you usually always pay for a girl left or right, sooner or later.

Tons of that last part of expats, tourists, retirees here, who constantly play games with girls to get it free. That actually causes much more damage, and waste the girl their limited time (until being too old and out the market).

7 hours ago, alextrat1966 said:

I don't live in Trat. I'm in Bangkok FYI.

 

And yeah, people have other reasons to come to Thailand other than engaging in prostitution. 

 

"A thief believes every man steals"

And a liar assumes everybody tells lies. 

7 hours ago, Pravda said:

Real men don't pay for sex

True, they only pay for the miss to leave.

6 hours ago, alextrat1966 said:

My wife, who by the way isn’t Thai, got sent by her company to handle a project in Thailand for a few months. 
 

Simple as that. 
 

alextrat1966 is just a username. Neither is my name Alex, nor do I live in Trat, nor was I born in 1966 ????

Yep, respect

8 hours ago, Pravda said:

Real men don't pay for sex

Now that would depend on how old you are, how you look, e.g. hanhom vs ugly, slim vs obese, well groomed vs shorts/singlet and flip flops.

 

From where I stand, I have never had a problem picking up a woman here or anywhere else for that matter, and don't have a problem paying for sex here.

 

The above said, I do not fit the criteria of the latter, and the women enjoy the time that I paid for with them, and also appreciated the lift (cash), paying for sex has nothing to do with being a real man, just depends the country your in, e.g. In a modern western country, you would pay for either a couple of drinks, a meal and if all and good, you would have desert.

 

Here, personally, I prefer to pay for it and be on my way, no attachments, no annoying phone calls and no one turning up on my door step, i.e. it's a business transaction without all the baggage.

8 hours ago, Pravda said:

Real men don't pay for sex

They do if they're married. Houses, cars, jewelry etc. A straight up cash transaction with a pro is a lot more honest than most relationships.

This is the sign of true love, sex is good but taking good care is the Thai way of showing love ????

Feeling the love right now

3 hours ago, alextrat1966 said:

This is bs, a girl of that age is not ready to take such decisions. 

No comment, see below.

8 hours ago, Sunnny said:

I always knew there was something UNREAL about those guys visiting Pattaya for a couple of weeks and having sex with 20 young girls

 

 

14 days and only 20? 555.  Ain't old age a dampener!!

16 minutes ago, 473geo said:

This is the sign of true love, sex is good but taking good care is the Thai way of showing love ????

Feeling the love right now

 

Frozen chips suggest that meal is far from true love.

6 minutes ago, The Deerhunter said:

14 days and only 20? 555.  Ain't old age a dampener!!

Maybe the 20 was all at the same time.

Sorry folks. Have just received a message in my "junk mail file" indicating that I was "blocked" with regard to ASEAN-Now. I have been with TVF since 2005. And now I have been "blocked". Alert: Do not open any files in connection with ASEAN-NOW in any "junk-mail" folder. At least not for the time being..

9 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said:

9 hours ago, alextrat1966 said:

And yeah, people have other reasons to come to Thailand than engaging in prostitution.

 

9 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Old retired men?

Is there something wrong with that?

14 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Frozen chips suggest that meal is far from true love.

Not been to the supermarket for a while, too busy, they are actually a good back up, sausages make up ????

And as getting the grand children ready for school is also a priority, then quite impressive. 

You must learn to accommodate and accept the time constraints on others Ralf, at times it can magnify the effort to please.

Frozen chips not true love, did you really write that ????

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, "undersexed" in the sense that one of my avenues to have fun sex was taken away. Mind you I can get any amount of intercourse, but the Gogo mongering is an act on its own. For me the choice of venue(s), bribing of mamasan(s), direct contact with the girls, haggling, debauchery, ending up in bed with one or more of the ladies are all parts one sex act act. I always judge or reminisce on the experience on the whole process, the actual details of the intercourse, while important, are just one part of a whole. 

 

????

2 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

What is sad about having a healthy sex drive and wanting to get that without the nonsense while someone offering earns her money too. 

I think it is more sad, is that those who complain about it have either a very boring sex life (with only 1 person) OR actually cheat girls by pretending they are looking for something genuine, to then take advantage over getting 'free' sex. To not even start about the fact you usually always pay for a girl left or right, sooner or later.

Tons of that last part of expats, tourists, retirees here, who constantly play games with girls to get it free. That actually causes much more damage, and waste the girl their limited time (until being too old and out the market).

And in the end they will end up very lonely, and if the money is gone there is nothing left either... Indeed they had their fun ... and for the ones who cheat their partner they play with fire because if the partner finds out ...........Yes I know it sounds oldfashioned, but who want to live another way it is up to them.. for me no problem.

6 hours ago, alextrat1966 said:

A 18 year old or 20 year old isn't mature enough to understand what she's doing! 

 

Ask those girls when they're in their 40s whether they regret it, and a considerably percentage of them will! There's stats on this. 

 

Just because you pay and she agrees doesn't mean it's fine and you're not destroying a life! You're only taking advantage of the girl's naiveness.

The "naiveness" of those girls have made it possible for the family in the Isaan to buy a tractor and a refrigerator and on top of it a Television. Every "girl" relocating to Pattaya from the Isaan was well aware where the money can be made, Not by cleaning "Hotel-Rooms". They knew exactly what was awaiting them. To "romantizise" this situation is entierly pointless.

No Isaan Girl has made it from a dishwasher to a millionair, unless she met "The right Farang".

9 hours ago, Pravda said:

Real men don't pay for sex

All the historical great men (explorers/adventurers) paid for sex.

Sir Richard Burton being a prime example.

 

I doubt Attila the Hun or Genghis Khan paid for sex, but they didn't ask for consent either.

 

Modern living has reduced men to wimp status (weak, woke, and feminised), I doubt there are many real men left in the west.

2 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Sad that you have to go to the red lights for sex.. Not want a real relationship?? Nobody  wants you?? Is sex the only thing that is important in life?? Just a few questions  

 ......... no, beer, drugs and food are also important in my life.

I usually have to pay for all.

9 hours ago, alextrat1966 said:

I don't live in Trat. I'm in Bangkok FYI.

 

And yeah, people have other reasons to come to Thailand other than engaging in prostitution. 

 

"A thief believes every man steals"

Great counter and oh so true we got a similar saying in my country.

2 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Sad that you have to go to the red lights for sex.. Not want a real relationship?? Nobody  wants you?? Is sex the only thing that is important in life?? Just a few questions  

I don't see the problem with paying for sex, I think many guys have paid for it at one time or the other.

 

And no I would not want to pay a woman to be in a relationship with me. But those are two different things IMHO.

16 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Modern living has reduced men to wimp status (weak, woke, and feminised), I doubt there are many real men left in the west.

Some even tag along to Thailand with their wife and bring their wimpiness with them. Without naming anyone in particular, that's pathetic.

Just now, Caldera said:

Some even tag along to Thailand with their wife and bring their wimpiness with them. Without naming anyone in particular, that's pathetic.

I'm guessing those guys ain't getting much!

Just imagine being surrounded by young, attractive, and willing women but only being allowed to bang some old bag once a month (if that).

10 hours ago, Pravda said:

Real men don't pay for sex

I'm sure most of us will have been passed on the old 'wisdom' at least once in our lives.  I think it was the guy I was apprenticed to that said "you'll pay for it one way or another".  How right that turns out to be.  Utilising the services of the 'rental industry' may well turn out to be a far cheaper option in the long run.

7 hours ago, alextrat1966 said:

7 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

consensual relationship surely that's OK? Or maybe they are just friends. If they don't have sex is it alright to be just friends?

No it's not! It's pure degeneration

Ha Ha, talking about my de,de,degeneration .   Maybe you should relocate to a country that is more to your specs, maybe the USA what with the direction it is headed.

12 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'm guessing those guys ain't getting much!

Just imagine being surrounded by young, attractive, and willing women but only being allowed to bang some old bag once a month (if that).

The frustration might drive one to demand that others must not do what the poor guy is not allowed to do. Something about misery and company. 

 

1 hour ago, ramrod711 said:

They do if they're married. Houses, cars, jewelry etc. A straight up cash transaction with a pro is a lot more honest than most relationships.

 

How would you know?