Bar Girl Retirement Strategies

[actonion]

Thai's dont plan past Midnight on any given day....

[BritManToo]

10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

But on the other hand there are many people out there, especially in the "west", who think all their life about what they will do when they retire. And they "forget" to live until they retire.

Agree,

I wasted 30 years planning for my future.

A future that never happened and I fell into a totally different and better unforeseen future.

[actonion]

Most older bar ladies have grown kids. preferably daughters, its these kids  that are the bar ladies pensions if they have'nt been lucky enough  to find a sponsor ..... most Thai's cant or dont plan past midnight

[Iamfalang]

Customers are high-level politicians from overseas.

 

Blackmail.

 

1 billion baht.

 

Last "dancer" I met decrypted my crypto wallet, took my Glock, drained my...............bank account in Switzerland, and changed the locks to my penthouse.   All in 19 minutes.

 

Only top operatives are strippers.     

[Iamfalang]

18 hours ago, BritManToo said:

You think a prostitute working Tinder is in some way better than a prostitute working bar? 

I do.  NOT forced to drink 20 beers a night.   Can sort-of pick the fat falangs over the smelly fat falangs.

 

Smarter to know Tinder is less work.   

 

The question is.....How much better?   We're not going from 10/100 to 90/100

[Excel]

36 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

That's our new 13yo daughter, just acquired from the village last month.

Her mother (not a bar girl) didn't want her.

That's good of you and the missus to care like that. It is so unfortunate that many members on here simply don't comprehend  that in many villages and towns  in Thailand there is a sense of social care, helping others and supporting kids especially those, that through no fault of their own, find themselves in need of care, love and support.

[ThailandRyan]

29 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Agree,

I wasted 30 years planning for my future.

A future that never happened and I fell into a totally different and better unforeseen future.

One can only try and prepare for their future, however feces happens and things change sometimes in the blink of an eye. For the folks I know and have met the new future we live is more than what we could ever have imagined. In my 20's I never ever dreamed of living in Asia.

 

I have wat he'd from near and far as folks try to play "Captain save a ho", or be a Knight in shiny Armor, only to fall on their sword at the end and admit defeat.  Some have been very successful with the girls they pulled from the bars while others were played.  Even then very few of the girls/women actually managed to hold it together and many destroyed what was built for them.  How many folks involved with bar girls or former bar girls ever learn 100% or even 50% of the secrets the women still carry.  My buddy in the Phils was just contacted by a gal in Thailand he dated 25 years ago, seems she was tossed aside or was she, and she wanted to know if he would be interested in her again...what a twisted world these women live in.

[Gottfrid]

48 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Agree,

I wasted 30 years planning for my future.

A future that never happened and I fell into a totally different and better unforeseen future.

So, you wasted 30 years planning for your future? Ok, then you must have had a lot of money already before you started to plan. Normally that is a big part of a plan. However, maybe you did not have any use of that factor in you new, different and unforeseen future. That one is totally free! ????

[OneMoreFarang]

50 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Agree,

I wasted 30 years planning for my future.

A future that never happened and I fell into a totally different and better unforeseen future.

Good luck that about 30 years ago I thought about my future in my home country. And then I thought about my recent holiday in Thailand. And then I decided it's time to get out of there.

I never looked back. But my retirement is still in my future. Maybe I should have spend less money with all those pretty girls and retire already. But then again, it was a lot of fun and at least with 30 I had the power to enjoy them the whole night - for a purple one. ???? 

[Lucky Bones]

20 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Hi-Lo Anyone.  Had a friend in Wang Sam Mo, who went to visit his sick mother in the UK, upon his return 2 months later the house had someone new living in it.  When he tracked down his Thai Wife, village ceremony only. she told him she lost the house in a Hi-Lo game.  Your home is not really your home in a village he found out.  His Thai Wife then went back to Phuket and back to the bar he had found her in, but as you said her sell by date was past due, and instead she became the cashier, and second to the mamasan, owner, as she had worked for 20 years in the bar prior to leaving the business.  My friend, who now did not have anything left in Thailand, as he always rented a car here, moved to the Phils.  He is a happy man now, but still gets ticked off at the thought of loosing a house, well large bungalow, he paid for.

What a bummer.

[ThailandRyan]

9 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said:

What a bummer.

It happens and who knows how big the issue truly is.  Always trying to get ahead, even though they are ahead and set, they just do not see it. When I ran around with my ex-wife and her friends they would always discuss getting more than they had already, I just was to stupid to see it would be mine who wanted more.  What is it with Thai women and the always telling others they need more. Relationships get destroyed but at the end of the day I know I am much happier now. Removing the girl from the bar, her family, and friends never seems to make a difference. My ex worked for a sugar processor as an accountant before we moved to the US. She just did not want to work anymore at the age of 30. Just glad I have a good relationship with my half Thai/American daughter who is now 15 and in the US thriving. Her stepfather does a good job funding her mother......

Edited July 14, 2022 by ThailandRyan

[RichardColeman]

All the ex-bar girls I know are in the 34-45 bracket and given up the bars in favour of hanging on to a man outside of the bars, living with the man and getting an allowance.

 

Problem I have with it, is knowing they are playing around when the man goes away looking for someone with more money or going back to there thai partner for a while.

 

I played the field with many, I have no complaints about my previous 'bar' life, but I married a well  teacher, not a bar girl. 

 

 

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

I have wat he'd from near and far as folks try to play "Captain save a ho", or be a Knight in shiny Armor, only to fall on their sword at the end and admit defeat.  Some have been very successful with the girls they pulled from the bars while others were played.  Even then very few of the girls/women actually managed to hold it together and many destroyed what was built for them.  How many folks involved with bar girls or former bar girls ever learn 100% or even 50% of the secrets the women still carry.  My buddy in the Phils was just contacted by a gal in Thailand he dated 25 years ago, seems she was tossed aside or was she, and she wanted to know if he would be interested in her again...what a twisted world these women live in.

Can't see they're any worse than my former Brit schoolteacher wife.

Hardly any women, in any country, make their own money for the future, they nearly all end up living off a man's assets (or the government) ........... often after dumping the man.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

Problem I have with it, is knowing they are playing around when the man goes away looking for someone with more money or going back to there thai partner for a while.

I used to think that ........ then I started playing around too.

And if mine found someone with more money (fat chance) I'd be happy for her to move on.

It's not as if it'dd take long to find a new and younger replacement.

[Kenny202]

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

It happens and who knows how big the issue truly is.  Always trying to get ahead, even though they are ahead and set, they just do not see it. When I ran around with my ex-wife and her friends they would always discuss getting more than they had already, I just was to stupid to see it would be mine who wanted more.  What is it with Thai women and the always telling others they need more. Relationships get destroyed but at the end of the day I know I am much happier now. Removing the girl from the bar, her family, and friends never seems to make a difference. My ex worked for a sugar processor as an accountant before we moved to the US. She just did not want to work anymore at the age of 30. Just glad I have a good relationship with my half Thai/American daughter who is now 15 and in the US thriving. Her stepfather does a good job funding her mother......

This is the issue. They don't seem to know when they have already won and keep going for the greener grass. Everyone I have known here and most had some stellar opportunities ended up back where they started penniless in a village or bar. Typical scenario....guy comes here to live with woman. Builds a comfortable house, buys her gold...a few holidays etc then time to settle down to a normal life on a budget...as all must do. That's when the trouble starts. the just seem to think it's Hollywood and the money will never stop. Living in a big farang home means nothing to them apart from show off value...in fact they have no value for money at all apart from buying things to post on Facebook. And they must get into the mindset found this sap easy, surely must be others around. Or start weighing up whether they are better off in the bar or with you. They already have all the assets in their name. And we haven't even mentioned greedy needy families or gambling debts or all the other issues. It is a sport for someone with deep pockets.

[Dart12]

21 hours ago, KhunLA said:

We, wife & myself, would have a hard time spending 800 baht a day in restaurants, let alone street vendors & market shopping.  Rarely does our restaurant bill break 500 baht.  Don't eat out at restaurants much, and our monthly food bill 'in & out' is about the 10k mark.

unfortunately, it's my cross to bear... in both money spent and in wondering when the balloon payment due from god will arrive to her figure lol.

Good thing my meals are typically 100 baht ish except when we go out to actual restaurants.

 

19 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Bars in Pattaya are far from being in decline. 

 

Onlyfans has the typical pyramid distribution of earnings, the top 1% gets 90% of the money. Same with most online systems. 

 

And earnings for the bottom half are intermittent. 

your numbers are correct.  but that bottom 99% making 100,000 baht month is good for the girls here, plus whatever freelance work they opt for too.

[Kenny202]

1 minute ago, Dart12 said:

unfortunately, it's my cross to bear... in both money spent and in wondering when the balloon payment due from god will arrive to her figure lol.

Good thing my meals are typically 100 baht ish except when we go out to actual restaurants.

 

your numbers are correct.  but that bottom 99% making 100,000 baht month is good for the girls here, plus whatever freelance work they opt for too.

I have seen some very ordinary girls with at least 200 followers at over $10 US a month. And that's a minimum. Most have over 300 subscribers. On top of that tips and private shows. That's serious coin for a girl in a village and a lot less effort and more money than can be made in a bar. Big @$$es and tattoos seem to be the most popular.  

[Dart12]

13 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And many of those women could have married what they call high desirable men when they were young. But they didn't do that because they though they can wait and marry later a more desirable man. And then it's too late. I am really sorry for those women - or maybe not. ???? 

Good, stable men thrown aside waiting for the rich good man, who won't accept the gals wanting to be the queen, the daughter, the king, the worshipped...without performing any of the duties that those positions require filled to reap the rewards they also bring.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Dart12 said:

Good, stable men thrown aside waiting for the rich good man, who won't accept the gals wanting to be the queen, the daughter, the king, the worshipped...without performing any of the duties that those positions require filled to reap the rewards they also bring.

This guy died recently and then for whatever reason I saw some of his videos. I love it. Enjoy!

 

[ThailandRyan]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Can't see they're any worse than my former Brit schoolteacher wife.

Hardly any women, in any country, make their own money for the future, they nearly all end up living off a man's assets (or the government) ........... often after dumping the man.

Exactly, my first ex wife ended up with 33% of my finalized pension.  Luckily I kept the house as she moved in with here new partner she had found after we split.  I ended up with the kids as she had no time for them due to work and starting her new relationship, and she was an American, so sometimes things are identical in all countries it appears.

[GarryP]

On 7/13/2022 at 11:11 AM, Lemsta69 said:

dude you really need to get away from the BG scene. it's not the be-all and end-all. quit flogging the long-dead horse.

But flogging dead horses gets him horny! 

[Dart12]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

This guy died recently and then for whatever reason I saw some of his videos. I love it. Enjoy!

 

Yep.  feminists and the whole new woke movement of the past few years trying to de-masculate men and make them also take victim stance hated his sharing of basic, hardwired truths.

[starky]

Unlike the rest of the world who all plan for their retirement ????

[LaosLover]

5 hours ago, Dart12 said:

Yep.  feminists and the whole new woke movement of the past few years trying to de-masculate men and make them also take victim stance hated his sharing of basic, hardwired truths.

This guy has few of these that are even funnier. I liked the social influencer who really just worked in a real estate agent office. Her minimum man salary requirement to go out is $200K.

 

The female fantasy is Christian Grey buying them a car on the first date. The male fantasy is a nymphomaniac showing up with a pizza. And it would be perfectly OK if that pizza box was empty. This is not changeable.

 

Once I offered a bartender a drink and he told me that honestly, he would prefer half the money as a tip instead. Their needs, licit and il-, are pressing on them, all the time.

 

And no safety net. If not for BritmanToo, what happens to that child? Economic terror, over a few generations, does not foster financial good sense. In fact, just like where we all came from, it creates the opposite.

 

Toss in low education and being constantly preyed on by the better off of their ilk, and it's not hard to see why they decide to do unto others what was done to them.

Edited July 14, 2022 by LaosLover

[Danderman123]

On 7/14/2022 at 7:08 AM, actonion said:

Most older bar ladies have grown kids. preferably daughters, its these kids  that are the bar ladies pensions if they have'nt been lucky enough  to find a sponsor ..... most Thai's cant or dont plan past midnight

I have a bargirl in my room now who had a daughter with an English chap. He's long gone, but she reports that the daughter looks 100% Farang, so she's a super retirement plan for the bargirl. 

[Lemsta69]

On 7/14/2022 at 2:47 PM, GarryP said:

But flogging dead horses gets him horny! 

I'm waiting for him to start flogging his new book ... Private Dancer II ????

[Danderman123]

15 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

I'm waiting for him to start flogging his new book ... Private Dancer II ????

When you're reading page 3 of comments about a topic you are complaining about......... 

[Danderman123]

I had a retired bargirl visit me last night. Her strategy was to marry a Farang, which she did. The problem is that he lives in Germany, and she is running out of excuses not to go see him. So, she stays in Pattaya, having  fun in the bars. 

 

As far as i know, she doesn't go with other Farangs. But, she does have a Thai boyfriend, a karaoke boy 15 years young than she. The claim is that she doesn't give him money, but her friends disagree. So her family complains she doesn't send enough money, but she needs to hold back some cash to pay for drinks and her Thai boy. 

 

Eventually, she will either have to go to Germany or end the relationship. Or find a better story why she can't go to Germany. 

[4MyEgo]

On 7/13/2022 at 1:37 PM, Danderman123 said:

Marry a Farang. This is Plan A for many, but it has drawbacks. For one thing, its not easy to live with someone you don't love, for a long time.

Then there is the other side of the coin, much happiness if they are both suited to each other, for one. Love becomes respect after the initial years together, the feeling of love doesn't disappear, but we learn to respect each other over the long time.

 

We are all different and have our moods that we didn't see when courting, call it family pressure, financial pressure, period moods and just moods, that said, you have to learn to respect each others space.

 

From my 15 + years journey, it has been the best ride of my life, sure she retired when she met me, she had many options to marry many farangs being the pretty girl that she was, still is, but was smart enough to know that she would probably end up being unhappy as a lot are, e.g. not in love.

 

Do I know she loves me, how does anyone know what someone feels for their partner, that said, generally speaking, those hugs, kisses, small gestures and putting your partner 1st sums it up for me, but you have to also put in to receive.

 

Nothing makes me happier to know that my girl is looked after, not spoilt by far, looked after, secure, not having to worry about where she will end up tomorrow or what pressure the family will apply to her, because cutting the head off the dragon has to be done respectfully from the beginning, that or you take her overseas where they cannot be so demanding.

 

The old saying, "only invest as much as your prepared to lose" not only applies here in Thailand but in any country, here for me, it has always been 10% of my worth, that said, if things went pair shape tomorrow, she can have the house, the car, the bike, the kids as she would have deserved it, me on the other hand would start a different chapter in my life's journey with the remaining 90%.

 

Moral of the story, love and finances should NEVER be mixed unless your prepared to take the risk to lose it all, that said, as long as your in control of your finances, you win all the way, and of course she will collect her lotto when you are good and gone to that outer sphere.

 

Love you long time ????❤️ 

 

 

Edited July 17, 2022 by 4MyEgo

[hotandsticky]

11 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Then there is the other side of the coin, much happiness if they are both suited to each other, for one. Love becomes respect after the initial years together, the feeling of love doesn't disappear, but we learn to respect each other over the long time.

 

We are all different and have our moods that we didn't see when courting, call it family pressure, financial pressure, period moods and just moods, that said, you have to learn to respect each others space.

 

From my 15 + years journey, it has been the best ride of my life, sure she retired when she met me, she had many options to marry many farangs being the pretty girl that she was, still is, but was smart enough to know that she would probably end up being unhappy as a lot are, e.g. not in love.

 

Do I know she loves me, how does anyone know what someone feels for their partner, that said, generally speaking, those hugs, kisses, small gestures and putting your partner 1st sums it up for me, but you have to also put in to receive.

 

Nothing makes me happier to know that my girl is looked after, not spoilt by far, looked after, secure, not having to worry about where she will end up tomorrow or what pressure the family will apply to her, because cutting the head off the dragon has to be done respectfully from the beginning, that or you take her overseas where they cannot be so demanding.

 

The old saying, "only invest as much as your prepared to lose" not only applies here in Thailand but in any country, here for me, it has always been 10% of my worth, that said, if things went pair shape tomorrow, she can have the house, the car, the bike, the kids as she would have deserved it, me on the other hand would start a different chapter in my life's journey with the remaining 90%.

 

Moral of the story, love and finances should NEVER be mixed unless your prepared to take the risk to lose it all, that said, as long as your in control of your finances, you win all the way, and of course she will collect her lotto when you are good and gone to that outer sphere.

 

Love you long time ????❤️ 

 

 

 

 

You should write a book of your story, the Thai bar girl literary works need a greater sense of balance.

 

 

I am not sure my partner understands the value, or implications, of receiving a monthly income of 40,000+ Baht when I am gone. My biggest mistake may yet turn out to be telling her!