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8 hours ago, Walker88 said:

My experience in rural Isaan equals corrugated metal home walls, tarp roofs that leak during the rainy season, outhouses, hibachi-style stoves, scabies on the kids, and field work if lucky.

That was my experience 20 years ago.

Now its brick walls, corrugated iron roofs that don't leak, toilet in the house, never seen a kid with scabies, all kinds of work but usually no field work. That's done by machines. 

20 years ago,  the farmers of Buriram walked to their fields,  many had a bicycle.  Later they switched to motorcycles.  Now they rent a tractor (noticed the buffaloes disappeared?) 

 

I don't know every single village in Isaan. The places I know are mostly in the 2 (statistically) poorest provinces,  as I said. 

I don't doubt your experience. But it's not the norm anymore.

 

1 minute ago, Lorry said:

That was my experience 20 years ago.

Now its brick walls, corrugated iron roofs that don't leak, toilet in the house, never seen a kid with scabies, all kinds of work but usually no field work. That's done by machines. 

20 years ago,  the farmers of Buriram walked to their fields,  many had a bicycle.  Later they switched to motorcycles.  Now they rent a tractor (noticed the buffaloes disappeared?) 

 

I don't know every single village in Isaan. The places I know are mostly in the 2 (statistically) poorest provinces,  as I said. 

I don't doubt your experience. But it's not the norm anymore.

 

Around where we live, it is quite upgraded lifestyle since first time I arrived 20 years ago. Only farmers houses looks like that, where they spend their time when they have to look after their crops and animals, but have also a family house in the village.

Beauty is only skin deep.

10 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

How do you pay a smart phone bill every month with no income?

Always prepaid, rarely postpaid.

 

10 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

 

How do you get to the city and get a job and a place to live when you start out with no money and no transportation?

Every household has access to a car, for years already (noticed that public transport disappeared?).

You get seed money from friends and family and from your employer (like if you live at the place of work).

Many, many people have relatives abroad, married to a farang or working in Korea.

 

10 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Still cooking with fire.

Some do have a microwave, but their mother's like to cook on fire. 

 

10 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

How does owning land make you well off?

By mortgaging.

And the banks (mostly the agricultural bank) is pressing people to take out loans. We are talking 6 or 7-figure sums.

This was Thaksin's economic policy (advised by Morgan-Stanley, copying countries like eg Peru). The junta continued it.

 

I don't say it's a good policy.

10 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

You are just another one of the ridiculous, spouting off with no idea how things really work.

 

Stay in your own lane, you won't look so obviously uneducated.

I am certainly more educated than you are.  But our experiences obviously differ widely. 

That's not a reason to insult me.

3 minutes ago, cbc said:

Beauty is only skin deep.

That's where it's supposed to be. Or what were you getting at? A visually attractive mindset?

On 8/9/2022 at 1:37 AM, BonMot said:

Soi Cowboy is finished. Fat, old, ugly mix and mstch on that one.

 

same same customers, then.

17 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

 

Typically there will be Children living with the Grandparents and everyone else working in the city

Hilariously, this is also true of poor Red State places. I guess poverty is the same the world over.

14 hours ago, Lorry said:

For more than 10 years now,  there have been job opportunities in the cities of Isaan.

Development is visible everywhere.

Buriram city is a good example.  I knew it as a sleepy rural backwater 20 years ago - now it's a globalized metropolis by comparison. 

Sparktrader: Globalization killed my BJ options. Damn you, Biden!!

If the op has been here 14 times already and he has not made

any friends to go see again he may be doing things wrong.

 

22 minutes ago, Lorry said:

Always prepaid, rarely postpaid.

 

Every household has access to a car, for years already (noticed that public transport disappeared?).

You get seed money from friends and family and from your employer (like if you live at the place of work).

Many, many people have relatives abroad, married to a farang or working in Korea.

 

Some do have a microwave, but their mother's like to cook on fire. 

 

By mortgaging.

And the banks (mostly the agricultural bank) is pressing people to take out loans. We are talking 6 or 7-figure sums.

This was Thaksin's economic policy (advised by Morgan-Stanley, copying countries like eg Peru). The junta continued it.

 

I don't say it's a good policy.

I am certainly more educated than you are.  But our experiences obviously differ widely. 

That's not a reason to insult me.

Seeds, trees, fertilizer and more is handed out from ampur many places, and also animal needed nutrition as well vaccines. There have been a few programs in our areas now to plant specific crops, and especially Tamarind fruit trees have been established succesfully. 
 

Even we have a inside western kitchen, full thai outside kitchen, bbq smoker, her family still burn food on a small coal burner when they visit. 
 

There is alot of poor people in Thailand, and often meet them in the deep forrest when riding my motorbike, where some live to escape the society and live from what the forrest gives, but they seems to be free and happy with their simple lifestyle far away from people. 
 

I believe most thais have more opportunities now, than 20 years ago, and kids are working world wide to support their families, not only locally or in red light districts. 

48 minutes ago, Lorry said:

That was my experience 20 years ago.

Now its brick walls, corrugated iron roofs that don't leak, toilet in the house, never seen a kid with scabies, all kinds of work but usually no field work. That's done by machines. 

20 years ago,  the farmers of Buriram walked to their fields,  many had a bicycle.  Later they switched to motorcycles.  Now they rent a tractor (noticed the buffaloes disappeared?) 

 

I don't know every single village in Isaan. The places I know are mostly in the 2 (statistically) poorest provinces,  as I said. 

I don't doubt your experience. But it's not the norm anymore.

 

I'm glad if that's the case. In my many visits to Isaan, what I saw was what I wrote. Maybe just (un)lucky.

 

I see areas particularly hard hit by Covid, as remittances stopped, bank loans dried up, and dreams died. The major roads look fine, but go off a km or more and it is a different world.

8 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I'm glad if that's the case. In my many visits to Isaan, what I saw was what I wrote. Maybe just (un)lucky.

 

I see areas particularly hard hit by Covid, as remittances stopped, bank loans dried up, and dreams died. The major roads look fine, but go off a km or more and it is a different world.

Farmer suicides very high worldwide. Costs are very high. Farms boomed in 1950s to 1980.

48 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

There is alot of poor people in Thailand, and often meet them in the deep forrest when riding my motorbike, where some live to escape the society and live from what the forrest gives, but they seems to be free and happy with their simple lifestyle far away from people. 

They are landless. These are really poor.

I doubt they are happy.  Not many people are poor by choice (monks are).

7 minutes ago, Lorry said:

They are landless. These are really poor.

I doubt they are happy.  Not many people are poor by choice (monks are).

Each individualsHappiness is not up to me to evaluate, but I believe as long govermmemt and people leave them alone, they find their happiness. 
 

To many people have everthing they want, and still not happy. Just another end of scale extreme. 

 

These guys with or without a lady, do picking bamboo, mushroom, wild vegetables, and make quite good money with very little living cost. I believe that can be satisfying for some if they can choose to live like that. 
 

Quite a few here seems to have everything, still their behavior on this forum is deleted, and do not mirror a happy life at all. 
 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Each individualsHappiness is not up to me to evaluate, but I believe as long govermmemt and people leave them alone, they find their happiness. 
 

To many people have everthing they want, and still not happy. Just another end of scale extreme. 

 

These guys with or without a lady, do picking bamboo, mushroom, wild vegetables, and make quite good money with very little living cost. I believe that can be satisfying for some if they can choose to live like that. 
 

Quite a few here seems to have everything, still their behavior on this forum is deleted, and do not mirror a happy life at all. 
 

 

 

Attitude not things make u happy

1 minute ago, Sparktrader said:

Attitude not things make u happy

Attitude comes with happiness?

 

Attitude come with ego and  missing something essential

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Attitude comes with happiness?

 

Attitude come with ego and  missing something essential

You just decide to be happy regardless of external factors

22 hours ago, LaosLover said:

Many entertaining posts later, I'm still not getting the plan. Hit some sprawling, hard to get around Issan town, have some ThaiFriendly's lined up and then pray she's attracted? And then if you stiff in Buriram, you get on the bus and do it all again?

 

I only moved here 8 days ago, and I already have some interest from my very sweet hotel owner. She's driving me around town, inviting me out to eat with the kid, and even knocked on my door to chat. But why? My C- looks and great wealth (I did pack along 4 pairs of pants)?

 

No. I'm a cheery person, I was nice to her kid and gave her a rollerball pen, I'm good company, but more to the point, I had many chances for many interactions with this nice person (I'm  very happily married, BTW, she knows it). Over a week, we've shared a bit of ourselves. And as a hotel owner in tourist district, there is no language barrier.

 

If I just approached her at 7/11 cold, no little chit chats over somtum. If I were single and wanted to get involved -who knows? But there's a teaspoon of mutual attraction and respect -so very, very lovely for only $15 a night (the room, I'm talking about the room).

 

I probably have the least experience in Thai GF-stuff of anyone here. But if I was looking, I'd dig in one place and just be the overall nicest, most laid back, unconcerned with romance or sex guy in the world. See what comes to me and get a taste of Issan-wherever. Take a private language class, maybe hire a guide to show me around a bit.

 

Just be into who's ever in front of me, whoever they are. I don't see how the 7 Issan towns in 3 weeks plan I heard last here gets you anything but exhausted.

 

 

She probably feels safe with you, like you are asexual and no threat. A women's best friend.

42 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

You just decide to be happy regardless of external factors

So she does not need to be a stunner after all?

22 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Are you sure ?

I thought that all a White guy would have to do is to go to an Issan village and every Female in the village would be spellbound by seeing a White guy and they would all rip their clothes off , every single woman, married , granny's the lot , in the hope she would be the one he wants to have sex with ?

   Is Issan not like that ?

All the girls running out of 7/11 chasing after the White guy walking down the street ?

  Nurses , housewife's all running down the street amazed that a White guy in in town ?

You too, thought it was just me.

43 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

You just decide to be happy regardless of external factors

Well, is it that easy?

 

I believe as long you play/live within your limits, pay attention, do not risk debts you can not pay, work hard and have goals you can reach, you can maintain happiness. Even after reached a basic living standard, you can maintain both happiness and do not miss anything i life. 

 

But it takes some self realization and accept you can not or should measure your life up against your neighbours or anyone else.

 

I have been lucky and worked within many different professions and what I have learned, is self grown, breed, fresh food and fish, and hunted food on table give me happiness as well living without neighbours no matter it is Isaan or in the remote mountains or on an Island north of polar circle. That's where I'm most happy. 

 

I could adopt to a man in jungle living free and live from what nature gives, if I did not have much other options in life.

 

But I have won the lottery, born in one of the best countries in the world, that gave me every possible option to succeed in something, except being a astronaut almost! 

 

Just because of that, I am happy, and should be happy! 

 

Knowing where you came from, and worked and contributed since you where 6 years old could help the mentality against learning to be happy when food is served, same as you see Thais do?

 

 

 

 

48 minutes ago, jvs said:

So she does not need to be a stunner after all?

1/10 lol

Isaan is literally the "head of the river" i mean outside of all the white half chinese university educated supermodels that most posters have on here as girlfriends, when talking about natural Thai beauty the vast majority of them would be in the NE. Down by the head with glamours.

On 8/9/2022 at 5:01 AM, KIngsofisaan said:

I have never seen a woman any where in Isaan terrified of westerners.

 

Fascinated? Yes. Terrified? No.

 

 

Generally means your not big enough. Certianly terrified of me. ????

6 minutes ago, starky said:

Generally means your not big enough. Certianly terrified of me. ????

Mr Anaconda

3 hours ago, orchis said:

same same customers, then.

Always was. In fact, influx of beer bellies and smokers. Someone let loose the early retirees and cooped up Europeans.

 

I'm not a customer - happily married. I just go for pints at the pub. Even if I was I'd be using an app snd not paying top dollar for grannies and whales.

On 8/9/2022 at 1:38 AM, KIngsofisaan said:

Ok, who married an Isaan gal, stunner or not?

Me  for  one !

31 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Mr Anaconda

Well im not struggling in that department lol but i dont wander the streeets with my cock out.

  Im 6'2" 120kg mate so fairly big by any measure.

   But tbh even with reasonable Thai language skills most "traditional" issan girls are very shy and reserved. Add to that the stigma that still remains in a lot of places that being seen with a falang means that you are on the game in some way means, yes some girls are very toey about speaking with you. 

 I would also add a LOT of the girls i am speaking of want zero to do with falangs anyway and tbh if your 20 years plus older than them, dont take care of yourself have zero interest in their language, culture or traditions why the fxck would they?

 Not sure how long The King of Isaan has been king but my  experiences dont match his. Not terrified perhaps but im sure you get what i mean.

  This doesnt apply obvi to girls in bar/entertaimment areas but up North in many towns girls definitely aint flocking to your pasty white butt and striking up a conversation with a random glamour in Isaan if you dont want bar girl takes time and persistance.  Sort of like a real relationship even ????

40 minutes ago, starky said:

why the fxck would they?

To get money, be it p4p or be it a rich husband. 

But nowadays farang - especially those living in Isaan - don't always have so much more money than Thais, and the girls know this.