Whatever Charter Court’s ruling, “General Prayut” will not go away easily

[snoop1130]

Thailand’s Prime Minister Prayut Chan-O-Cha leaves after his weekly cabinet meeting at the Government House in Bangkok on August 23, 2022. (Photo by Jack TAYLOR / AFP)

 

As if political pundits these days didn’t have enough to chew on, Prayut government’s top legal expert Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam on Monday opened what might seem to be a new political Pandora’s Box.

 

And it surely has added to the already heated debate on the political fate of Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha.

 

According to Wissanu, even in the worst–case scenario in which he is forced out of office as prime minister as the result of a Constitutional Court’s ruling, Prayut Chan-o-cha will still be around in the Cabinet – not as prime minister but as defence minister.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/whatever-charter-courts-ruling-general-prayut-will-not-go-away-easily/

 

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[Crossy]

Ya think??

 

[Mavideol]

 they have it all prepared already, constitutional changes, brown envelopes, etc.,  just making sure numbers add up and the circus will keep going/moving

[Joseph98765]

another military coup again in 2023? 55555

[ThailandRyan]

What the hell is wrong with these folks, if he looses the position as the PM then all of his other positions evaporate as well...........He might as well start taking documents home with him to read up on what he is supposed to do in case it all goes pear shaped, like his #2 resembles.

[stoner]

i;m going to go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out on a limb and say the ruling will go in favor of our dearest leader. 

[scorecard]

4 hours ago, Mavideol said:

 they have it all prepared already, constitutional changes, brown envelopes, etc.,  just making sure numbers add up and the circus will keep going/moving

Possibly no need for brown envelopes.

Just 'do as your told' would be enough for many to toe the line.

[BKKTRAVELER]

When is this nightmare going to end? Really..

[MrJ2U]

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

What the hell is wrong with these folks, if he looses the position as the PM then all of his other positions evaporate as well...........He might as well start taking documents home with him to read up on what he is supposed to do in case it all goes pear shaped, like his #2 resembles.

Fatty you mean?

 

 

[mania]

3 hours ago, BKKTRAVELER said:

When is this nightmare going to end? Really..

When a single Thai Patriot grows a pair

[ikke1959]

Indeed it shows the power of the military in this so called democracy. As a lot of people wantbtha PM get out, he will stay in power in one or another way backed up by his friends. If the people will demonstrate and start fighting it is a reason to do another coup so that the army can stay in power. Why is Thailand called a democracy???

[RichardColeman]

'Look Ma, I can do airplane. Neeeooooowwwwwww'

[2baht]

12 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

What the hell is wrong with these folks

Please, don't get me started!  ????

[AhFarangJa]

<deleted>.............Six Deputy Prime Ministers !!!!!!! All of them under the thumb of one man. They really do have this sown up whichever way the dice roll. 

He gets removed or demoted to defence minister, tells the rest not to take up the premiership, then by default as defence minister steps into the chair again................There really is no hope for the Thai people.

[Rampant Rabbit]

8 hours ago, BKKTRAVELER said:

When is this nightmare going to end? Really..

Never beacsue  like everything in Thailand its  all  talk, for the nation, country and religions......krap..........and the fall back  mode less majeste

[Srikcir]

13 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

if he looses the position as the PM then all of his other positions evaporate as well

Perhaps this is your personal opinion/desire.

 

But reality is that removal of a Cabinet Member is not so easy:

"The House of Representatives and the Senate can forcefully remove a sitting minister by a vote of no confidence. A one-sixth of the chamber vote is needed to call a debate and a simple majority is required for removal. A minister can also be removed by the king on the advice of the prime minister."

ref. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_Thailand

 

The Senate is firmly in Prayut's "camp."

Conversely, wouldn't his self-appointment to Defense Minister have been approved "on advice" aside from himself as then PM?

[2baht]

2 minutes ago, AhFarangJa said:

There really is no hope for the Thai people.

..................and that's what happiness is. ????

[ratcatcher]

1 hour ago, ikke1959 said:

Indeed it shows the power of the military in this so called democracy. As a lot of people wantbtha PM get out, he will stay in power in one or another way backed up by his friends. If the people will demonstrate and start fighting it is a reason to do another coup so that the army can stay in power. Why is Thailand called a democracy???

"Why is Thailand called a democracy???"

I was under the impression it was a constitutional monarchy.

[kingstonkid]

The challenge is that with the way it is worded he could resign today and start a new 8 years tomorrow.

 

Again it comes down to the same thing as every country is learning.  ELECTION have consequences.

 

Instead of people crying and whining they need to get off their assets and vote. 

[NemoH]

27 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Perhaps this is your personal opinion/desire.

 

But reality is that removal of a Cabinet Member is not so easy:

"The House of Representatives and the Senate can forcefully remove a sitting minister by a vote of no confidence. A one-sixth of the chamber vote is needed to call a debate and a simple majority is required for removal. A minister can also be removed by the king on the advice of the prime minister."

ref. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_Thailand

 

The Senate is firmly in Prayut's "camp."

Conversely, wouldn't his self-appointment to Defense Minister have been approved "on advice" aside from himself as then PM?

Everyone talks about removing Prayuth. But has anyone thought about the next character that will replace Prayuth? 
 

To be honest- there is no one or we foreigners know of nobody.

At least Prayuth still maintain. Semblance of law n order without which none of us will be in Thailand. ????????

[crazykopite]

Let’s get things into perspective Thailand is ruled by the military the only difference is they wear normal civilian clothes and occasionally will dress in their military attire . The current PM is the guy who orchestrated the last coup if he is kicked out of office he will organise the next one to ensure he retains the power he cherishes more than anything else 

[baboon]

18 minutes ago, NemoH said:

Everyone talks about removing Prayuth. But has anyone thought about the next character that will replace Prayuth? 
 

To be honest- there is no one or we foreigners know of nobody.

At least Prayuth still maintain. Semblance of law n order without which none of us will be in Thailand. ????????

"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

[Tarteso]

????

 

[brommers]

As my dearly departed mother used to say, "<deleted> sticks to a blanket". 

[herfiehandbag]

48 minutes ago, ratcatcher said:

"Why is Thailand called a democracy???"

I was under the impression it was a constitutional monarchy.

It is quite possible, in fact normal for constitutional monarchies to be democratic, unless you regard UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Belgium, The Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Spain and Japan as not being democracies.

 

A democracy is a country which elects it's government on a regular basis, and has some form of representative parliament.

 

A constitutional monarchy has a hereditary head of state who does not play a political role.

[herfiehandbag]

57 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

The challenge is that with the way it is worded he could resign today and start a new 8 years tomorrow.

 

Again it comes down to the same thing as every country is learning.  ELECTION have consequences.

 

Instead of people crying and whining they need to get off their assets and vote. 

Being allowed a free vote, where the result stands regardless of those "in influence", and the various agencies which they control would be a start.

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, NemoH said:

Everyone talks about removing Prayuth. But has anyone thought about the next character that will replace Prayuth? 
 

To be honest- there is no one or we foreigners know of nobody.

At least Prayuth still maintain. Semblance of law n order without which none of us will be in Thailand. ????????

There are lots around, but as soon as they demonstrate any level of popular support they are driven off.

 

The overarching problem is that the "checks and balances" which are supposed to ensure a free election have been highjacked by those who wish to keep power.

 

Look at the last election. There were two parties which had significant support, and would have likely produced a coalition government; to replace the incumbent one. One was banned just before the election, effectively disenfranchising a very large number of voters (6 million or so?) and the other was decapitated and hamstrung by various spurious legal proceedings immediately after the election.

Edited August 24, 2022 by herfiehandbag

[itsari]

15 hours ago, Joseph98765 said:

another military coup again in 2023? 55555

If they loose the next election badly then that could well be the scenario .

[Reigntax]

15 hours ago, Joseph98765 said:

another military coup again in 2023? 55555

Well it’s been a while, all of 8 years and the last still isn’t over.

Nothing like a military coup over a military government.

just a different buffalo in control!!

[ftpjtm]

1 hour ago, NemoH said:

Everyone talks about removing Prayuth. But has anyone thought about the next character that will replace Prayuth? 
 

To be honest- there is no one or we foreigners know of nobody.

At least Prayuth still maintain. Semblance of law n order without which none of us will be in Thailand. ????????????

I'd take Thanathorn over Prayuth in a heartbeat.