2 hours ago, gomangosteen said:

Natural attrition?

 

Given the average age of posters here - 70+ ? - likelihood some have passed away, apart from the obvious age-related reason we've had two years of Covid impact.

 

Also aware of long-term expats who returned to their home countries at the beginning of Covid and did not return. 

 

 

There's a third group that I will refrain from naming.

As sizable as the two above.

Bring back ???? 1990 be good.

7 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

IMHO the rebranding didn't cause the relative [wanted] exodus,  it just came with it. The next step would be to take the Elon Musk approach.

Musk approach?  You mean I'm the richest so I can stomp on anybody and everybody with impunity?  Would fit the Thai HiSo practice. 

7 hours ago, Lacessit said:

You forgot Sheryl and Crossy.

15 years a member and I miss  many of the “regulars” especially from our Women’s forum. I really dislike the current format on my phone so I rarely pop in anymore. Advertisement after advertisement. So annoying.

Yes, all changed from the early TV days. Much more going on on the internet now, people move on, interesting members banned etc. George used to lay on TV parties back in the day!

9 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I don't think that its much to do with the name or format .

Internet forums are quite dated and old fashioned now and on the decline , have been for about ten years now .

 

 

There is nothing wrong with the format. Most of the sub forums are to do with local stuff and never had loads of posters on them.

The popular sub forums no longer have as many posting IMO because the popular subjects are apparently no longer allowed. "Where is the best pizza in Pattaya" may be relevant to pizza lovers in Pattaya, but not, IMO, to anyone else.

On one subforum, it's basically a small number of posters attacking anyone that has a different opinion that is IMO driving other posters away. About 6 years ago it had a large number of posters contributing, but no longer.

No one wants to post something only to be vilified or abused for it.

 

If one wants to see why people have left, do an internet search, as they tell it as they experienced it.

 

Like  E-mails and things , technology moves on 

If you mean to those horrid not as smart as they think they are phones, some may like that tiny screen, but I never will. Hate them.

9 hours ago, gomangosteen said:

Also aware of long-term expats who returned to their home countries at the beginning of Covid and did not return. 

Didn't stop me posting.

8 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The whole internet has also changed since smart phones came into existence .

   Previously you would get home in the evening and go on the internet on a home computer , its was a thing to do .

   These days ,many people are online all the time on their smart phones and not much effort goes into their posts .

Indeed they are and it's making them so stupid they don't even look where they are going.

<deleted> phones are an ideal medium for the sheeple. The clever people I know have them, but only use them when they need to, not all the time.

10 hours ago, gomangosteen said:

Natural attrition?

 

Given the average age of posters here - 70+ ? - likelihood some have passed away, apart from the obvious age-related reason we've had two years of Covid impact.

 

Also aware of long-term expats who returned to their home countries at the beginning of Covid and did not return.  

 

10 hours ago, gomangosteen said:

 

 

The part about long term expats returning home is good theory but in practice it's very doubtful, even if they went back home they are likely to have remained members and continued to post. Plus, I don't know of many longer term members who left because of covid and didn't return, I think the drop in numbers has more to do with a purging of the old membership to allow the new school to gain a foothold.

 

FWIW, speaking as a long term observer who has noticed the transition over time, one of todays problems is the over posting rate by some posters. It causes reader fatigue because the posters don't say anything useful and there are so many of them, it's a real turnoff. Fine if posters want to engage in focused debate but half a dozen comments each on a dozen or more topics daily is stifling. 

In my not-so-humble opinion, there were a lot of heavy handed beach timeouts that soured people on ThaiVisa. They then migrated to the kitty forum until that forum went a similar route. I was a mod on kitty and saw the members transitioning to kitty, then the forum morph into a more heavily censored platform at which time I said, "buh bye."

 

As someone previously posted, the new members on AseanNow make constructive conversation near impossible and it's just not worth the bother any more.

3 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

In my not-so-humble opinion, there were a lot of heavy handed beach timeouts that soured people on ThaiVisa. They then migrated to the kitty forum until that forum went a similar route. I was a mod on kitty and saw the members transitioning to kitty, then the forum morph into a more heavily censored platform at which time I said, "buh bye."

 

As someone previously posted, the new members on AseanNow make constructive conversation near impossible and it's just not worth the bother any more.

Amen bro'. (or sis'.)

 Starting to sound a bit old and grumpy in here now. 

 

 

And the font change didn’t help either… Not to mention the ”ink” issue too, for months the forum was barely readable, maybe ok for the younger guys with perfect vision but surely not for me haha

18 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

 Starting to sound a bit old and grumpy in here now. 

 

 

So why not make a constructive contribution rather than telling us how you feel personally?

5 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:

So why not make a constructive contribution rather than telling us how you feel personally?

 

3 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

 

Thanks, it just helps demonstrate what's wrong with the forum and why there are so few people posting here.

It seems many have moved on and are using reddit to discuss Thailand/Bangkok and other places.

26 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:

Thanks, it just helps demonstrate what's wrong with the forum and why there are so few people posting here.

I disagree, 

Now first off you quoted me.

with my old and grumpy comment. ( i do think this true of some posters)

Now you had the opportunity to laugh at it, you chose not to.

what does that say, does the cap fit ?

 

Quote

FWIW, speaking as a long term observer who has noticed the transition over time, one of todays problems is the over posting rate by some posters. It causes reader fatigue because the posters don't say anything useful and there are so many of them, it's a real turnoff. Fine if posters want to engage in focused debate but half a dozen comments each on a dozen or more topics daily is stifling. 

Now the above is just a whinge.

The forum is not your personal space so  you need to  take the rough with the smooth.

The forum provides the tools to ignore posters you feel are annoying to you. 

again its your choice to use or not to use these tools.

 

Try smiling and develop a sense of humor to use on forums.

Happy posting. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

12 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Everything changes, moves on, evolves.

Computers , the internet, social media all changed in the last 20 years, some for the better, others not so much.

 

If memory serves, this month will be the 20th anniversary of this forum.

 

 

 

George was the founder member I believe, 20th November 2002.

I joined 30th November 2002.

 

Any other November 2002 members still around?

12 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

IMHO the rebranding didn't cause the relative [wanted] exodus,  it just came with it. The next step would be to take the Elon Musk approach.

What, find someone one with lots of money to buy it and screw it up?

 

NB: I'm not a Twitter user, just an interested observer.

3 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

I disagree, 

Now first off you quoted me.

with my old and grumpy comment. ( i do think this true of some posters)

Now you had the opportunity to laugh at it, you chose not to.

what does that say, does the cap fit ?

 

Now the above is just a whinge.

The forum is not your personal space so  you need to  take the rough with the smooth.

The forum provides the tools to ignore posters you feel are annoying to you. 

again its your choice to use or not to use these tools.

 

Try smiling and develop a sense of humor to use on forums.

Happy posting. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And ditto the same back to you also.

 

The point is that I made a constructive observation about a specific problems with the forum, you simply told us how you felt, there's a big difference. 

1 minute ago, nigelforbes said:

And ditto the same back to you also.

 

The point is that I made a constructive observation about a specific problems with the forum, you simply told us how you felt, there's a big difference. 

No it's just whining. 

There is no problems with the forum or it's posters.

its just your take on it.

The drop In numbers is as one poster has said, other places to post now days.

 

 

1 minute ago, Orinoco said:

No it's just whining. 

There is no problems with the forum or it's posters.

its just your take on it.

The drop In numbers is as one poster has said, other places to post now days.

 

 

You were called out on your trolling picture post, get over it and don't do it again, it's against forum rules.

1 minute ago, nigelforbes said:

You were called out on your trolling picture post, get over it and don't do it again, it's against forum rules.

Not at all, I gotcha. grumpy old men.

3 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

5 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:

You were called out on your trolling picture post, get over it and don't do it again, it's against forum rules.

Not at all, I gotcha. grumpy old men.

Examples of why people are leaving for less whinging platforms.

15 minutes ago, Thailand said:

George was the founder member I believe, 20th November 2002.

I joined 30th November 2002.

 

Any other November 2002 members still around?

Not me. 2007.

 

But I noticed a post of yours the other day and thought " he/she must be an original to have snagged that user name.."  ????

1 hour ago, nigelforbes said:

Thanks, it just helps demonstrate what's wrong with the forum and why there are so few people posting here.

Blah blah... Chill bro.

 

"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."

 

????

12 hours ago, simon43 said:

Good Heavens!  I joined this forum only about 1 month after it started!  (Suddenly I feel rather old...)

I held out for 3 months before leaving USENET - and I am old.

12 hours ago, proton said:

still better than mud slinging weak door or the limping Tiger ????

Oh my - I just had a look at that door place, hmmmm .. it’s a bit messy. 

I am unable to identify with the new name for ThaiVisa. 

 

You can call this great forum what you will, but I will always call it TV. 

 

TV, to me, means like watching the boob tube. 

 

Nobody admits they love to spend time watching the boob tube, and yet, they do. 

 

One thing I have learned is that TV is not a forum, exclusively, for boobs. 

 

Here on TV, you will find posters of every ilk. 

 

Personally, I do not mind, too much, that the name has changed. 

 

It's like calling a kettle black, rather than referencing the tea kettle. 

 

I would not mind if we reverted to the former name for this forum. 

 

But, I don't think changing the name, again, would amount to a hill of beans. 

 

Do you?