3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Fox has been showing bits and pieces of the laptop story for awhile. Very entertaining.

Well yes, FOX News is an entertainment channel.

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Pure pejorative speculation.

Got a better idea?

3 hours ago, heybruce said:

A public figure with a sordid sex life!  He should run or President as a Republican.  It worked for Trump.

Well he'd probably win the Democrat nomination.

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Got a better idea?

I have no need random pejorative ideas.

 

 

2 hours ago, Srikcir said:

A review of hard drive by The Washington Post - March 30, 2022

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/

In part:

• The vast majority of the data — and most of the nearly 129,000 emails it contained — could not be verified by either of the two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post.
• The experts found the data had been repeatedly accessed and copied by people other than Hunter Biden over nearly three years. (Before possession by the FBI)
• Most of the data obtained by The Post lacks cryptographic features that would help experts make a reliable determination of authenticity
• The Post’s review of these emails found that most were routine communications that provided little new insight into Hunter Biden’s work for the company.

From the FBI potential federal laws violated but nothing seems to be a nefarious criminal political conspiracy, especially with VP Biden:

• "they (FBI) believe is sufficient evidence to charge him (HB) with tax crimes and a false statement related to a gun purchase."

It is for U.S. Attorney in Delaware, a Trump administration holdover, to decide on whether to file such charges.

October 6, 2022

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/10/06/hunter-biden-tax-gun-charges/

 

 

 

Why should the WSJ review and opinion be accepted by anyone? Why did they have access to the HD?

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Why should the WSJ review and opinion be accepted by anyone? Why did they have access to the HD?

The same question applies equally to CBS News, you’ll find CBS News at the top of this thread.

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

@vinciis right. The Republicans have repeatedly stated they have no platform other than to stop the Dem's, regardless of the issue. These endless partisan battles must stop; the US will suffer until they do. We need to return to the art of negotiating.

Rubbish - they have declared what they want to do in the first instance is to reverse many of Biden's XO's and excessive Democrat spending.

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Really?

 

Do you truly believe that?

Maybe.

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The same question applies equally to CBS News, you’ll find CBS News at the top of this thread.

OK them too.

2 hours ago, Srikcir said:

A review of hard drive by The Washington Post - March 30, 2022

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/

In part:

• The vast majority of the data — and most of the nearly 129,000 emails it contained — could not be verified by either of the two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post.
• The experts found the data had been repeatedly accessed and copied by people other than Hunter Biden over nearly three years. (Before possession by the FBI)
• Most of the data obtained by The Post lacks cryptographic features that would help experts make a reliable determination of authenticity
• The Post’s review of these emails found that most were routine communications that provided little new insight into Hunter Biden’s work for the company.

From the FBI potential federal laws violated but nothing seems to be a nefarious criminal political conspiracy, especially with VP Biden:

• "they (FBI) believe is sufficient evidence to charge him (HB) with tax crimes and a false statement related to a gun purchase."

It is for U.S. Attorney in Delaware, a Trump administration holdover, to decide on whether to file such charges.

October 6, 2022

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/10/06/hunter-biden-tax-gun-charges/

 

 

 

Interesting. The hard drive obtained by CBS for analysis was given to them by the shop owner who claimed it was a clean copy...lol (how many does he have). So his say so only. The forensic investigators a father and son duo did an interview with CBS. They mention nothing about checking sources/header metdata/ip's etc. They do say there was a huge volume of emails and stuff. When asked about possibly added folders, they said we don't see that, "possibly because we have a more pristine copy"...lol

 

Its stuff that would not stand up in court for more than a few minutes before being shredded by a real forensic analysis such as the one carried out by the Washington Post

 

The 5 min video is on twitter here

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1594701364969590785

 

40 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Why should the WSJ review and opinion be accepted by anyone? Why did they have access to the HD?

Why did anyone have access and make all of the copies that have floated around....fact is that because of all of the unauthorized access and so on, the laptop and it's contents can not be used for any actual prosecutorial relevance or as anything other than speculatory and hearsay evidence.  To much tampering and as far as chain of evidence, well it's about as good as the single glove in OJ's trial......

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Maybe.

I like a man with the courage of his convictions.

Posts from an unapproved source have been removed. 

 

Hey I guess if your party has no fresh ideas about taming inflation,crime,yada yada yada ya just gotta go back to the old Donald’s play book and slander kinda sad, be that as it may be what really gets my back up is the fact that president Biden has lost one wife and daughter to accident one son to cancer still manages to get stuff done on the thinnest of margin’s geese just get a life come up with solutions to problems just sad

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Why did anyone have access and make all of the copies that have floated around....fact is that because of all of the unauthorized access and so on, the laptop and it's contents can not be used for any actual prosecutorial relevance or as anything other than speculatory and hearsay evidence.  To much tampering and as far as chain of evidence, well it's about as good as the single glove in OJ's trial......

Maybe....maybe not. But nothing to do with my question, of course,

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

I like a man with the courage of his convictions.

Well that's what I said in the first place. I am convinced of that.

47 minutes ago, Tug said:

Hey I guess if your party has no fresh ideas about taming inflation,crime,yada yada yada ya just gotta go back to the old Donald’s play book and slander kinda sad, be that as it may be what really gets my back up is the fact that president Biden has lost one wife and daughter to accident one son to cancer still manages to get stuff done on the thinnest of margin’s geese just get a life come up with solutions to problems just sad

Last orders please. Drink up.

17 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Last orders please. Drink up.

Before the angry old white men become too few to even win a rigged election?

17 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

stop with the disinformation please. Chain of custody is JPMcIsaac to the FBI directly. 

 

"According to Isaac’s account, the FBI first made a forensic copy of the laptop, then returned weeks later with a subpoena and confiscated it. When he stopped hearing from the FBI, Isaac said he contacted several members of Congress, who did not respond. At that point, his intermediary reached out to Rudy Giuliani’s attorney, Robert Costello."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-emails-computer-repair-store-owner-john-paul-mac-isaac

 

 

That's interesting, and if true puts a somewhat large question mark against the FBI's impartiality.

Personally, I always had doubts about the leadership of the FBI re political allegiance, going back to the days of the previous POTUS.

Hopefully if there is a problem, the house investigation will reveal it.

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

Before the angry old white men become too few to even win a rigged election?

You mean it was rigged?

7 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

@vinciis right. The Republicans have repeatedly stated they have no platform other than to stop the Dem's, regardless of the issue. These endless partisan battles must stop; the US will suffer until they do. We need to return to the art of negotiating.

Would that be "negotiating" like the Dems did with the previous POTUS?

7 hours ago, billd766 said:

And if it gets to court and he is found not guilty, will you accept that verdict?

I'll accept it as much as you will if a certain ex POTUS is found not guilty.

9 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

This is pure and simple petulant Republican retribution.

Given the attacks over the past 6 years and continuing, the comments by Biden about the GOP and supporters, do you wonder why the Republicans are looking for payback?

32 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given the attacks over the past 6 years and continuing, the comments by Biden about the GOP and supporters, do you wonder why the Republicans are looking for payback?

They want payback because they are happy when the country is in a mess.  The previous administration was a mess--toxic in every aspect.  They were authoritarian and the only hold on power was to blame others in a sort of I am better because they are so much worse.  They acknowledged few of the problems, if they did, they blamed Democrats.   It worked for a while, but it isn't working anymore.   

 

We arguably made it through a pandemic and faced big problems, which the current administration has carefully and successfully ushered us through.  We had a contentious midterm election in which all those problems were highlighted, but at no time did they offer any solutions.  They said they would stop inflation, but no indication of how.  They would lower gas prices, but again, no indication of how.   Climate Change was completely off-limits with them, even though the California Central Valley and SW US are in a 1200-year drought and account for a HUGE amount of the food that feeds the nation.

 

Even their big, scary border issued was featured with an ad showing people crawling over Trump's big, beautiful wall!!  

Now, they grasp at straws.  They make stuff up, and follow conspiracies.   Hunter's laptop will figure prominently, but I highly doubt they are going to find anything connecting him to any business or financial transactions with his father.  Joe Biden has been around too long to ever fall for something so fool hearty.  Rest assured, however, they will Benghazi his laptop to death.  Why?  Because they are unable or unwilling to actually address the nation's problems.   

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given the attacks over the past 6 years and continuing, the comments by Biden about the GOP and supporters, do you wonder why the Republicans are looking for payback?

Exactly, the GOP has been trying for years to push false equivalencies, on order to claim that what happened to Trump were witchhunts and nothing burgers, that the Dems are equally corrupt, etc...

The problem is that Biden's campaign did not meet with foreign operatives, that Biden did not commit an abuse of power by pressuring a foreign leader in order to try to discredit his main opponent, that Biden published his tax returns and did not try to fraud tax, that Biden did not illegally hold classified documents after he left, that Biden did not try to overturn elections and assault the Capitol, etc...

 

So their only possibility is to make stuff up, and organise a big show a la Jim Jordan which will "look like" a real commission. Pathetic.....

1 minute ago, candide said:

Biden did not illegally hold classified documents after he left,

After Biden left where ?

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

After Biden left where ?

After he was not VP any more.

2 hours ago, Credo said:

They want payback because they are happy when the country is in a mess.  The previous administration was a mess--toxic in every aspect.  They were authoritarian and the only hold on power was to blame others in a sort of I am better because they are so much worse.  They acknowledged few of the problems, if they did, they blamed Democrats.   It worked for a while, but it isn't working anymore.   

 

We arguably made it through a pandemic and faced big problems, which the current administration has carefully and successfully ushered us through.  We had a contentious midterm election in which all those problems were highlighted, but at no time did they offer any solutions.  They said they would stop inflation, but no indication of how.  They would lower gas prices, but again, no indication of how.   Climate Change was completely off-limits with them, even though the California Central Valley and SW US are in a 1200-year drought and account for a HUGE amount of the food that feeds the nation.

 

Even their big, scary border issued was featured with an ad showing people crawling over Trump's big, beautiful wall!!  

Now, they grasp at straws.  They make stuff up, and follow conspiracies.   Hunter's laptop will figure prominently, but I highly doubt they are going to find anything connecting him to any business or financial transactions with his father.  Joe Biden has been around too long to ever fall for something so fool hearty.  Rest assured, however, they will Benghazi his laptop to death.  Why?  Because they are unable or unwilling to actually address the nation's problems.   

 

 

So comical that you accuse others of making stuff up after spouting out all that nonsense. 

3 hours ago, candide said:

Exactly, the GOP has been trying for years to push false equivalencies, on order to claim that what happened to Trump were witchhunts and nothing burgers, that the Dems are equally corrupt, etc...

The problem is that Biden's campaign did not meet with foreign operatives, that Biden did not commit an abuse of power by pressuring a foreign leader in order to try to discredit his main opponent, that Biden published his tax returns and did not try to fraud tax, that Biden did not illegally hold classified documents after he left, that Biden did not try to overturn elections and assault the Capitol, etc...

 

So their only possibility is to make stuff up, and organise a big show a la Jim Jordan which will "look like" a real commission. Pathetic.....

quote "The problem is that Biden's campaign did not meet with foreign operatives, that Biden did not commit an abuse of power by pressuring a foreign leader in order to try to discredit his main opponent"

 

 demonstrably false - in fact your whole post has no bearing on reality, but I''ll just fact check your statement here as left wing msm did cover it so I can provide a link. Biden pressured a foreign sovereign nation to delay an oil price hike until AFTER the midterms. No reason whatsoever to do this other than to gain political points. 

 

"The Biden administration asked Saudi Arabia, the de-facto leader of oil producer group OPEC, to delay its decision on oil output by a month, the kingdom said in a statement.

Notably, Biden’s request would have delayed the decision until after the U.S. midterm elections."

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/13/biden-admin-asked-saudi-arabia-to-postpone-opec-cut-by-a-month-saudis-say.html

 

and then to make the scandal much worse the then threatened consequences for Saudi not doing what Biden wanted

 

"President Joe Biden is angry at Saudi Arabia for its decision to slash oil production along with its OPEC allies against U.S. wishes, and he’s made no secret of it. 

The oil producer group in early October announced its largest supply cut since 2020, to the tune of 2 million barrels per day from November, which its members say is designed to spur a recovery in crude prices to counter a potential fall in demand. 

For this, Biden said in an interview with CNN on Tuesday that there would be “consequences.” He did not go into further detail as to what those consequences might be."

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/12/biden-threatens-consequences-for-saudi-arabia-after-opec-cut.html

 

Real quid pro quo'ing. Will he be impeached for it?

 

 

Kick-backs are part of politics at all levels... why would anyone be surprised.