Ex-PM Thaksin vows to return to Thailand post-election, face jail time

[herfiehandbag]

37 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Prayut is looking younger than ever, jet black hair and not a wrinkle in sight. I suspect botox 

In the election posters (hung on the perimeter fence of our local barracks) he looks about 24.

[khaowong1]

He's thinking his daughter will be the next PM and she will pardon him.  Bingo.  

[billd766]

1 hour ago, khaowong1 said:

He's thinking his daughter will be the next PM and she will pardon him.  Bingo.  

And why should she not give him an amnesty?

 

After all that was one of the first things that the generals did for themselves after the 2014 coup.

[ross163103]

A billionaire-in $USD, spending time in a Thai jail.....I don't think so! A lot less influential/rich people get off without jail time, not gonna happen with any of the Shinawatra family.

[Gknrd]

Looking forward to it big T, Hope to see you in your new orange jump suit when you arrive.

[still kicking]

On 3/25/2023 at 1:17 PM, glegolo18 said:

You learn all this sentences in the PC-school I guess... I was here and saw the "so close civilwar" it was 2014 before the military intervene and stopped all that <deleted> between the yellow and the red....

Thailand have had a serious social development since 2014 if you compare, if you CAN compare?? The people have not at all been suffering that is pure <deleted> talk... 

 

I withhold keep Thaksin outside Thailand, and do NOT let this <deleted> in here... It will be spilled blood... If you cant see that...#"#¤%¤#¤

If you are not Thai, you can't vote so shut the <deleted> up 

[heybruce]

13 hours ago, glegolo18 said:

You learn all this sentences in the PC-school I guess... I was here and saw the "so close civilwar" it was 2014 before the military intervene and stopped all that <deleted> between the yellow and the red....

Thailand have had a serious social development since 2014 if you compare, if you CAN compare?? The people have not at all been suffering that is pure <deleted> talk... 

 

I withhold keep Thaksin outside Thailand, and do NOT let this <deleted> in here... It will be spilled blood... If you cant see that...#"#¤%¤#¤

Bull.  The protest was dying of apathy.  The military jumped in while there was still some semblance of protest left to "justify" the coup.  The real reason for the coup is obvious to everyone who lived through that time and its aftermath, but can't be discussed here.

Edited March 25, 2023 by heybruce

[heybruce]

7 hours ago, Dont confuse me said:

I've actually taken the time to read a lot of posts!

I wonder if someone with greater knowledge than me could answer the following:-

Name one leader of Thailand who hasn't been corrupt? 

Those who see this as an opportunity to 'bang on' about other leaders, please read the post again!

Have a great weekend one and all.

They've all been corrupt.  At least the ones that are voted in can be voted out.  You can't say that about the military "leaders".  I use "leaders" because we aren't allowed to use the proper term.

[scorecard]

"Former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra said Friday he is ready to return and serve his prison term in Thailand provided he is allowed to spend the remainder of his life with his family, regardless of the results of an upcoming general election."

 

In other words he wants to ignore/decide how the legal system works in Thailand with special rules just as he dictates. Not on, under any circumstances.

 

"... regardless of the results of an upcoming general election." Not on, I don't believe he is not involved in Thai politics and if he  was here it would be so much easier for him to manipulate whatever he wanted for his benefits. And that could easily bring back a vote to cancel his conviction etc. 

 

Not to be trusted anytime/anywhere.

 

Edited March 27, 2023 by metisdead
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[Reigntax]

16 hours ago, glegolo18 said:

You learn all this sentences in the PC-school I guess... I was here and saw the "so close civilwar" it was 2014 before the military intervene and stopped all that <deleted> between the yellow and the red....

Thailand have had a serious social development since 2014 if you compare, if you CAN compare?? The people have not at all been suffering that is pure <deleted> talk... 

 

I withhold keep Thaksin outside Thailand, and do NOT let this <deleted> in here... It will be spilled blood... If you cant see that...#"#¤%¤#¤

And you still haven’t realised that the military were behind the unrest in 2014 and the previous 16 coups?

 

Maybe when the next civilian government is elected and the military provoke the same unrest again to oust them, and they will, it may ring a bell.

 

Then again, maybe not!

[mrfill]

Presumably he will return post-election only if his lot wins so he can return and forgive himself and live happily ever after.....

[Bday Prang]

23 hours ago, mikebell said:

He can afford to build a special jail for him as the lone prisoner with luxury quarters attached for his grandchildren.  Would Yingluck be allowed to visit him?

Thats been done before,If I remember correctly, I think it was columbian drug baron Pablo Escobar who agreed to surrender himself on the condition he was incarcerated in a private prison which he had constructed and was staffed by his own people.  He went on to construct a cocaine processing laboratory in the prison and it was business as usual

[Bday Prang]

What sentence would he receive? despite his "youthful" appearance, at 75 he aint got that long left 

[vandeventer]

There's no place like home, no place like home, no place like home, click your heels 3 times and your home. Welcome back?

[Dante99]

On 3/25/2023 at 7:05 AM, webfact said:

Former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra said Friday he is ready to return and serve his prison term in Thailand provided he is allowed to spend the remainder of his life with his family,

so just put them all in jail together, for a long time

[bendejo]

18 hours ago, LALes said:

They love him in Isaan because he at least recognized their existence. 

They love him because he personally went up there and handed out money, 300b per vote was the reported amount.  Not much, but it's more than anyone else had handed out.  And then came the Bkk protests, which gave some of the people the most money they ever had in their pockets.  And a free trip to the Big City. 

Money.  Money changes everything.

 

[Ginner]

21 hours ago, glegolo18 said:

DO NOT let this guy enter Thailand and play martyr..... It will be a big red party all over Isaan with much thaiblood spilled I guess...  better to keep this guy outside Thailand,,,, And keep the peace. Sensetive time now with election and all..

Wasn't it the military that spilled Thai blood when the red shirts ( mostly farmers) wanted a fair price for the rice that the rich yellow shirts were cheating them out of. Even nurses trying to help the wounded were targeted. And corruption still and is carrying on, only on a bigger scale. If his daughter is elected, the military will raise its ugly head again.

[Hanuman2547]

Thaksin has been out of the country for approximately 15 years.  Lets hope he can spend another 15 years outside Thailand.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, bendejo said:

They love him because he personally went up there and handed out money, 300b per vote was the reported amount.  Not much, but it's more than anyone else had handed out.  And then came the Bkk protests, which gave some of the people the most money they ever had in their pockets.  And a free trip to the Big City. 

Money.  Money changes everything.

 

Right, "reported amount".  Got a better source than that?

 

More important, did you go to Isaan or the North before Thaksin was elected?  It was third world.  After just a few years of a Prime Minister that didn't neglect the majority of the Thai people roads and clinics were built, kids started staying in school, barely literate parents saw their children graduate public school and go to university, etc.

 

It turns out paying attention to the Thais outside of Bangkok was a real vote winner.  The Bangkok elite hated it.

[Shop mak]

0% likely .that he returns.

He has  combined 7-8 years jail time waiting for him, according to other news sources. 

Just a PR trick to help his daughter in the upcoming election.

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

Right, "reported amount".  Got a better source than that?

 

More important, did you go to Isaan or the North before Thaksin was elected?  It was third world.  After just a few years of a Prime Minister that didn't neglect the majority of the Thai people roads and clinics were built, kids started staying in school, barely literate parents saw their children graduate public school and go to university, etc.

 

It turns out paying attention to the Thais outside of Bangkok was a real vote winner.  The Bangkok elite hated it.

But you conveniently ignore/don't mention how openly corrupt he was, he and his cronies, and the vote buying, Essan and other reas villagers very paid and wouldn't dare to mark the ballot paper to vote for any alternative, and the letion where the voting 'cubicles' were turned around, no curtains  so his cronies could watch what voters were doing. And the big rallies in Bkk where attendees were paid to turn up, all on video. 

 

And his big guys given very high level 'appointments' and power (nobody would challenge them) in key ministries. Follow the rice sagas.  

 

He ordered gov't banks to give loans to selected people / other governments all on the basis the funds would be used to buy his products.

 

Even tried to intimidate folks with royal titles (MR/ML) to vote his way at committee meetings. 

 

Plus his refusal to answer questions at press conferences. Any reported who tried to push him got punished. One foreign journalist r tried to push him on a very awkward revealing subject. The response from the paymaster (in English) 'Idiot Scum'. The foreign journalist was detorted the next day. 

 

 

Edited March 26, 2023 by scorecard

[bannork]

Tony, as he likes to be known internationally, is never coming back. His ego couldn't stand one night in jail and his head couldn't survive the high velocity bullet that might always be waiting for him. 

In my view he did two noteworthy things: he made national policies part of every political party's manifesto and secondly, he introduced the 30 baht health scheme. Actually the Democrats thought of that first but unlike Tony, they were, and still are, hopeless at marketing.

I agree he's simply raising his profile prior election to boost Pheua Thai, but calling Zelensky a clown was idiotic.

Perhaps he believes all publicity is good. 

 

 

[trainman34014]

Come back or not come back won't change the Political Climate much in Thailand.    EVERYTHING here is about money and who can plunder the majority of it.    The Country needs a Zi like figure to appear who would clear out the Gargantuan Corruption from every Government Department including Police and Military and Execute all the 'leading lights' of said Departments, even Women, as many in high positions are just as greedy as the Men.    Sheer Fear of Death is the only thing that will stop the plunder and actually make people think twice about having sticky fingers.   If all the plundered money were used in the proper way it would relieve many millions from Poverty in Thailand and the Country might actually start moving forward instead of constantly marking time for the benefit of the relatively few in number !

[Bday Prang]

7 minutes ago, trainman34014 said:

Come back or not come back won't change the Political Climate much in Thailand.    EVERYTHING here is about money and who can plunder the majority of it.    The Country needs a Zi like figure to appear who would clear out the Gargantuan Corruption from every Government Department including Police and Military and Execute all the 'leading lights' of said Departments, even Women, as many in high positions are just as greedy as the Men.    Sheer Fear of Death is the only thing that will stop the plunder and actually make people think twice about having sticky fingers.   If all the plundered money were used in the proper way it would relieve many millions from Poverty in Thailand and the Country might actually start moving forward instead of constantly marking time for the benefit of the relatively few in number !

The last thing anybody anywhere needs is a "Zi like figure to appear"   If you are such a fan of his then you should go and live in China , and see how you like it there

Edited March 26, 2023 by Bday Prang

[Mr Meeseeks]

23 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Really?

They didn't have to run away.

They could have shown evidence that they are innocent.

They could have had lawyers who show that they are innocent.

They didn't do any of that. Why should they now get a new trial?

After a military coup and subsequent junta?

 

Are you serious? ????

[Mr Meeseeks]

15 hours ago, billd766 said:

And why should she not give him an amnesty?

 

After all that was one of the first things that the generals did for themselves after the 2014 coup.

Bingo.

 

What is good for the goose must be good for the gander. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

10 hours ago, heybruce said:

They've all been corrupt.  At least the ones that are voted in can be voted out.  You can't say that about the military "leaders".  I use "leaders" because we aren't allowed to use the proper term.

Some people just can't grasp these simple facts.

 

The Thaksin obsessives all over this thread again, and we have them to thank, in part at least, for the last 8 years of military misrule and yet they have the audacity to jump on here pontificating and suggesting what is best for Thailand.

 

You couldn't make it up. 

[billd766]

On 3/26/2023 at 4:50 AM, scorecard said:

"Former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra said Friday he is ready to return and serve his prison term in Thailand provided he is allowed to spend the remainder of his life with his family, regardless of the results of an upcoming general election."

 

In other words he wants to ignore/decide how the legal system works in Thailand with special rules just as he dictates. Not on, under any circumstances.

 

"... regardless of the results of an upcoming general election." Not on, I don't believe he is not involved in Thai politics and if he  was here it would be so much easier for him to manipulate whatever he wanted for his benefits. And that could easily bring back a vote to cancel his conviction etc. 

 

Not to be trusted anytime/anywhere.

 

And the current military government are to be trusted anytime/anywhere?

[Shop mak]

Consider his age,  73, would he spend his golden years behind bars, until age 81?

 

[Bday Prang]

23 minutes ago, Shop mak said:

Consider his age,  73, would he spend his golden years behind bars, until age 81?

 

That will not happen