Dutch Woman Arrested at Phuket Airport for Entering and Staying in Thailand Without Proper Documents

[Old Croc]

3 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Opinions are like belly buttons, everyone's got one!

That's not true, and I'm very sure the saying refers to a different part of the anatomy.

[Cricky]

1 hour ago, ChipButty said:

The story is no good with out the facts, 

Agree.

We need more important information

1. Was she packing her clogs

2. Has she been to the Heineken brewery

3. Did she have her underwear on.

4. Was any of her family present when the boy stopped a dam from cracking by plugging a hole with his finger. 

 

 

Edited March 28, 2023 by Cricky

[soalbundy]

32 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Opinions are like belly buttons, everyone's got one!

That's just your opinion.

[2baht]

1 hour ago, soalbundy said:

That's just your opinion.

What's your's?

[Old Croc]

41 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Reminds me of this from a decade ago:

No Visas: Immigration Arrested Honest Couple

An international row has erupted over the arrest of a young French couple and their 22-month-old child. The family arrived on a flight at Phuket International Airport and left the terminal without being processed by Immigration... The blunder was only discovered days later when the honest French couple, on their first trip overseas, took the trouble to return to Phuket airport so the error could be corrected.... The couple were later made to appear in court, fined and sentenced to a suspended jail term,

I remember that case. About 10 passengers found a door direct to the baggage area and by-passed Immigration processing. Technically entered illegally.

Should have been handled differently by Immigration at the time.

This case is not the same. I'll wait for further updates to find what this lady's story is.

[brianthainess]

5 hours ago, Cricky said:

Mmmm, seems a tidy sort.

 

Poor girl, off to those stinking cells.

I'm sure a few of the boys here would offer her to join them on a marriage visa.

 

 

I don't think there are many Thai men on this site, if any at all. 

[Grumpy one]

3 hours ago, RandiRona said:

She was doing some James bond kind of stuff...MI6 will get her out soon in his Majesty service...Andrew that is..not Charles!????????

She is way too old for handy Andy 

[glegolo18]

5 hours ago, ukrules said:

I'm going to need more information here, until I get it I'm working on the assumption that immigration made a mistake and are now blaming the tourist.

 

But really?? isn´t this just an overstay-thing, nothing else... She entered on her VISA-free stay as a dutch (30 or 45 days) and then didn´t care to do anything about it, and therefore overstayed. Is this really a thing to hand over to the newspapers.. a small thing like this?

[mikeymike100]

1 hour ago, Old Croc said:

If it was something as simple as a missed stamp on arrival it would have easily been checked and proven at the airport and she would have departed on her flight.

The arrest shows there is more to the story than that.

 

The thread headline states she entered without proper documents.

Interesting travel outfit.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Dutch PP didn't belong to her.

Even if you are correct and you may well be, why does it take 5 cops to seemingly arrest her?

Or do they just like having their pictures taken?

Totally ridiculous!

[2baht]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

no thinking required.

Is that what you think? ????

[Bangkok Barry]

It was unclear how she had originally entered Thailand.

 

Maybe if the reporter did their job and made phone calls, asked questions - you know, did their job - it might be clear.

[RandiRona]

32 minutes ago, Grumpy one said:

She is way too old for handy Andy 

Agree, but he is trying to change perception ;)...

Edited March 28, 2023 by RandiRona

[StayinThailand2much]

4 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

First question that comes in  mind is how did she enter Thailand with no visa??? help from from who and why so stupid to leave at an airport where everything is checked?? Something else is why are these people seen as crimininals??? 

The only way I can think of, is entering overland, bypassing the Immigration building. But for a Dutch (not Burmese, or Cambodian) citizen, that would be very stupid.

Edited March 28, 2023 by StayinThailand2much

[kcpattaya]

On the front page with a whole Swat Team in bullet proof vests:
This illegal alien cheese maker must be punished to the extent of the law.
Throw her in front in front of the lions, or elephants for that matter...
 

[Cricky]

1 hour ago, brianthainess said:

6 hours ago, Cricky said:

Mmmm, seems a tidy sort.

 

Poor girl, off to those stinking cells.

I'm sure a few of the boys here would offer her to join them on a marriage

 

 

I don't think there are many Thai men on this site, if any at all. 

I reckon this is the problem.... You are thinking, stop it immediately before you hurt yourself.

 

As a married foreigner on a retirement visa, if your wife has not reached the age of 50, she can act as your dependent.

 

Edited March 28, 2023 by Cricky

[NanLaew]

4 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

First question that comes in  mind is how did she enter Thailand with no visa???

Dutch passport holders qualify for visa-exempt entry.

 

4 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

help from from who and why so stupid to leave at an airport where everything is checked??

I left the airport in Benin and the border at Savannakhet without being 'processed' in properly. I am astounded that my stupidity easily defeated the lazy immigration jobsworths in two totally different countries.

 

4 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Something else is why are these people seen as crimininals??? 

This is too easy... because (like me) she broke the law.

Edited March 28, 2023 by NanLaew

[klauskunkel]

6 hours ago, ukrules said:

I'm going to need more information here, until I get it I'm working on the assumption that immigration made a mistake and are now blaming the tourist.

 

 

5 hours ago, Joe Farang said:

You are not Columbo. There is also no need for you to make any assumptions.

Yes, there is a need!

Without assumptions and Columbos, Asean Now would be a barren place indeed. Let's try to keep this forum vibrant and interesting and let the Moderators decide...

[ikke1959]

26 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Dutch passport holders qualify for visa-exempt entry.

 

I left the airport in Benin and the border at Savannakhet without being 'processed' in properly. I am astounded that my stupidity easily defeated the lazy immigration jobsworths in two totally different countries.

 

This is too easy... because (like me) she broke the law.

She broke the law because the immigration made mistakes or did not do their job???

[ikke1959]

4 hours ago, Menken said:

Yes, why is this news.

 

It's not even a full story so there is a huge question why even after the story was written why they would put it up on aseannnow??

These are just feel good stories... To show what and how foreigners do in this country... That is why there is always negative news about them.. overstaying, fighting, stealing, and name it...They still don't get it that this is not inviting to visit Thailand

[Cricky]

14 minutes ago, klauskunkel said:

Without assumptions and Columbos, Asean Now would be a barren place indeed

I like barren

 

[Menken]

3 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

These are just feel good stories... To show what and how foreigners do in this country... That is why there is always negative news about them.. overstaying, fighting, stealing, and name it...They still don't get it that this is not inviting to visit Thailand

Yes, but why put it up here?? The full account of the situation is not even stated.

[soalbundy]

2 hours ago, 2baht said:

What's your's?

In my old age I've learnt not have one, nobody gives a flying fart what I think and tomorrow I will have changed my mind anyway.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, ikke1959 said:

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

Dutch passport holders qualify for visa-exempt entry.

 

I left the airport in Benin and the border at Savannakhet without being 'processed' in properly. I am astounded that my stupidity easily defeated the lazy immigration jobsworths in two totally different countries.

 

This is too easy... because (like me) she broke the law.

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She broke the law because the immigration made mistakes or did not do their job???

Correct, same as me except I manged to do it TWICE.

[ChipButty]

3 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Correct, same as me except I manged to do it TWICE.

Some years ago I once did a visa run from Ranong and the Thai immigration forgot to stamp my passport out, I didn't find out until i got to Burma I had to come back get it stamped and go back again, Them nice immigration officer gave me 500 Baht

[Old Croc]

2 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

Even if you are correct and you may well be, why does it take 5 cops to seemingly arrest her?

Or do they just like having their pictures taken?

Totally ridiculous!

I made comment in another thread about why I think they do it. Unsure why you pose this question at me as I didn't make mention of it in my post here.

 

[Old Croc]

2 hours ago, glegolo18 said:

But really?? isn´t this just an overstay-thing, nothing else... She entered on her VISA-free stay as a dutch (30 or 45 days) and then didn´t care to do anything about it, and therefore overstayed. Is this really a thing to hand over to the newspapers.. a small thing like this?

Did you read the title of this thread?

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, glegolo18 said:

But really?? isn´t this just an overstay-thing, nothing else... She entered on her VISA-free stay as a dutch (30 or 45 days) and then didn´t care to do anything about it, and therefore overstayed. Is this really a thing to hand over to the newspapers.. a small thing like this?

I don't think this is an overstay issue because of this statement (in the linked article which is also very thin on information)

 

Quote

It was unclear how she had originally entered Thailand.

Thus possibilities are: 

1) Renewed passport - (no transference of visa).

2) Entered illegally - (walked across a land border / smuggled in / Boat arrival).

3) Entered under an immigration mistake - Immigration forgot to stamp her in.

 

If this were due to #1 - there would be a record of her arrival under her old passport. 

If this were due to #3 - she should be able to prove her flight arrival if she flew. But, if she walked across a land-border and the immigration official forgot to stamp her in thats difficult to prove. 

 

I suspect possibility #2 - smuggled in and was ‘working’ here illegally (but no proof of that at all of course). 

 

 

BUT.. IF she knew she was in country illegally, did she really believe she could just exit without an issue ?... perhaps she thought she’d get away with just paying the 20k Baht overstay fine.

 

 

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

2 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

Even if you are correct and you may well be, why does it take 5 cops to seemingly arrest her?

Or do they just like having their pictures taken?

Totally ridiculous!

I made comment in another thread about why I think they do it. Unsure why you pose this question at me as I didn't make mention of it in my post here.

Why do you think the question was posed at you ??? (ok this one is)... 

 

... I read mikey’s question as being posed at the general forum, but also replied to your thread. 

 

It is a valid question - why do the police do this ???... (not posed directly at you Old Croc !)...

 

I suspect...

... Legacy: Because this is what they have always done, no one thinks about it, they just do.

... Moment in the limelight: They love a good photo Op to show off their work.

... Visibility: such visible proof of their could work could place them in good light for promotions.

 

I suspect its the first option [Legacy]... so much goes on this country where people just behave in an ‘expected manner’ without critical thought or any question as to why, simply because this is always what has been done - there’s nothing more to it than that.

 

 

 

[brianthainess]

2 hours ago, Cricky said:

I like barren

 

But do you get stamped in?, some have a landing strip. 

[ThailandRyan]

7 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

First question that comes in  mind is how did she enter Thailand with no visa??? help from from who and why so stupid to leave at an airport where everything is checked?? Something else is why are these people seen as crimininals??? 

Must have been picked up by the Police VIP folks and van from the airplane itself, then escorted to her place of holiday like the Chinese gal did as well as many others.....this time somene forgot to stamp the passport...... or maybe she was stuffed in a suitcase and brought in......

Edited March 28, 2023 by ThailandRyan