Thaksin says he will return to Thailand in July, despite potential consequences

[crazykopite]

Having read all the comments I am alarmed by the hatred towards this guy from foreigners/ex pats I arrived in Thailand when he was PM had he remained in that post we might have been witnessing a Thailand that had gone forward rather than backwards it’s time for the old guard to accept the people’s choice of government.

[BangkokReady]

11 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Sweep stakes.... 

 

How long before he’s arrested and red-shirts protest and blockade major cities... 

Then the military have to step in with another Coup because the existing government are unable to maintain law and order ???

 

I give it 5 months.

Do you think he made a deal with the current government when he saw the election result?  Could they offer him more than the coalition could?

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, heybuz said:

He is I believe a billionaire,I doubt if his kids and grandkids are in dire straits and need to work.

Nor would it be a challenge to recruit the best childcare money could buy.

[quake]

8 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

Having read all the comments I am alarmed by the hatred towards this guy from foreigners/ex pats I arrived in Thailand when he was PM had he remained in that post we might have been witnessing a Thailand that had gone forward rather than backwards it’s time for the old guard to accept the people’s choice of government.

Add me to that list.

Hope he goes to jail, if he dare set foot back here.

[BangkokReady]

7 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

Having read all the comments I am alarmed by the hatred towards this guy from foreigners/ex pats I arrived in Thailand when he was PM had he remained in that post we might have been witnessing a Thailand that had gone forward rather than backwards it’s time for the old guard to accept the people’s choice of government.

Is it possible that you are only looking at the fact that he "did so much for the people", rather than what his actual political/business practices were?

[sidneybear]

Thaksin trying to divide and conquer, so he can fill his pockets again. 

[bannork]

He's confident Pita cannot be PM, not enough votes from the Senate and/ or banned from standing as PM.

So PT will have a crack at gaining the PM vote. To get the Senators' votes, they'll have to ditch MF and bring on the usual tired suspects, Bhumjaithai, Palang Pracharat, etc.

Here's how it will play out imo 

PT- 141 votes

Bhumjaithai - 71

Chart Thai Pattana- 10

There's a few more single digit parties that would join so let's add another 10 votes, total 231.  I guess Wan Noor's Pracharat join so now 240 MPs

Not enough to form a majority so guess who has to join?

Yes Pravit and his Palang Pracharat with his 40 MPs, some ex-PT MPs) plus all his senators to vote himself or Settha as PM.

Part of the deal is to let Thaksin come home.

So, imo, PT will betray MF and their 'reputation' as progressive, democracy lovers will go down in flames. 

Left in Opposition - MF, Thai Sang Thai, possibly Prayuth's UTNP, possibly Democrats, rough total:

151+6+36+25, total 218 votes.

 

 

 

 

[kennw]

2 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Pheu Thai are in the coalition... with the 2nd highest numbers and with a lot of clout.

Why would he come back to destabalise that?

Your post makes no sense.

Focus on the facts, prior to the election Taksin said he would come back, Taksin always the power behind PT, e.g. Daughter made leader of the party. Number 1 party objective win election form govt/PM give Taksin get out of jail free card. Problem, PT didnt win, cant get MFP to agree to PT number 1 objective, solution, form a majority without MFP, problem solved. What about the will of the people? What's that in Thai politics?   

[Pink Mist]

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[Eric Loh]

Thaksin’s popularity has waned with unexpected seats loss in traditionally strongholds in the North and North East. The losses in party lists are also significant. Thaksin has acknowledged that MFP has better policies and personalities. I don’t think he can do much for the party and he has thrown in the towel for politics.
 

He has talk about returning before the election. I think he is determined to return and enter the legal process. MFP wining the election and forming the government will deflect a lot of accusation of collusion for his return if PTP is to be the government.

 

He know that he will be returning with Prayut still the caretaker government. Lots of bad blood between them but not sure Prayut still have the appetite to go after Thaksin. In fact, I don’t see the yellow shirts have the appetite to demonstrate in numbers. So it will left to be seen, how the authority will handle his return in accordance to the legal process. He keep saying about waiting for permission. Think that is a cryptic message. 

 

 

 

 

[renaissanc]

12 hours ago, bignok said:

If I was super rich like him I would forget Thailand. Go enjoy a more sophisticated region.

I'd have done this many years ago. He could find immense happiness by using his money to help villages in Africa dig wells. He'd experience so much joy when he receives the thanks of the villagers. But he doesn't think at that level.

[Andrew65]

Will he fly into Bangkok, or to the north where he was/is extremely popular?

[Andrew65]

9 minutes ago, renaissanc said:

I'd have done this many years ago. He could find immense happiness by using his money to help villages in Africa dig wells. He'd experience so much joy when he receives the thanks of the villagers. But he doesn't think at that level.

He could do exactly the same thing in poorer parts of Thailand and be just as popular? Remember that Thailand's still a relatively poor country. Part of why he was so unpopular with some in Thailand was because he was seen to be a champion of the poor?

Edited June 3, 2023 by Andrew65

[sambum]

Serious question - Is there no statute of limitations on his "crimes"?

 

"Boss" seems to have got away with most of his sentences due to the statute of limitations - why not Thaksin?

[kingstonkid]

13 hours ago, dinsdale said:

I disagree. Why would he plan this? Why would he plan for another coup? What will he gain?

The simple answer is that he could careless about Thailand this is all about him.

The interesting part is he is waiting for his daughter to tell him when he an come home.

I think the only way that works is if she is in power .  Although I can see a deal based on lese majeste.

 

Also how does grandpa look after kids if he is in prison.

[Eric Loh]

6 minutes ago, sambum said:

Serious question - Is there no statute of limitations on his "crimes"?

 

"Boss" seems to have got away with most of his sentences due to the statute of limitations - why not Thaksin?

Only the land case has expired. Others convictions tallied more than 10 years and there are also pending cases. Good point why the “boss” got away with their corruptions and seizing power from a legit elected government. 

[nahkit]

14 minutes ago, sambum said:

Serious question - Is there no statute of limitations on his "crimes"?

 

"Boss" seems to have got away with most of his sentences due to the statute of limitations - why not Thaksin?

I don't think "Boss" has ever been sentenced to anything has he?

 

The statute of limitations applies to charging him and bringing him to trial.

 

Thaksin was brought to trial and found guilty so as far as I am aware, he still has to serve his time, there are no statute of limitations once you've been convicted.

 

(At least that's the way I understand it).

[BangkokReady]

27 minutes ago, renaissanc said:

I'd have done this many years ago. He could find immense happiness by using his money to help villages in Africa dig wells. He'd experience so much joy when he receives the thanks of the villagers. But he doesn't think at that level.

I've often had the same thought.  The thing is, super rich people aren't rich because they're such good people and want to help others.  They're rich because they want to be rich, to have business empires, to have huge amounts of wealth.  They reach the point where they could provide a good life for them and their families, but they keep going because they want more money, more than they could possibly spend. 

 

The chances are he simply wouldn't get the same feeling some people would from helping others.  ????‍♂️

[NanLaew]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

I am waiting for Ung Ing (Paetongtarn, his daughter) to set the date, the timing.” 

Odds are 7/5 for Thursday 13th July. I think that's when the 60-day, post-election game of musical chairs (is supposed to) ends.

Edited June 3, 2023 by NanLaew

[BestB]

better the devil you know than the devil you don't

 

Would not surprise me if there was a deal made 

[patongphil]

Why do they show a photo of Tony while the article is about Thaksin?

[skippybangkok]

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

 

He said that he wants to be able to care for his seven grandchildren, to relieve the burden on their parents, so they can focus

Him and Trump could be brothers. Of course the poor families  can relate to that crap cause that’s how they have to live 

 

Let me guess - am guessing that kids go to school with a driver, a few bodyguards and maybe one or two Nannie’s ?  
 

Poor old grandpa is going to be so much help 

[MrMojoRisin]

14 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I don't know what is end game is. But his constant attitude is that he hates it to be ignored.

Now people talk about Move Forward and not about him. That is obviously something he can't accept.

So what does he do? Go to the press with some crazy statement which he will know they will pick up. And he has another 15 minutes of fame.

It must be sad to be so desperate for attention. 

He made it very clear what his “endgame” was - to come home and spend time with his grandchildren and leave politics to the new, younger generation.

[KannikaP]

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

He said that he wants to be able to care for his seven grandchildren, to relieve the burden on their parents

Great Aunt Yingluck can do a couple of days as well. 555

[MrMojoRisin]

11 hours ago, scorecard said:

On the other hand does he really think he can walk into Thailand as a free man?

Clearly he does. The military/elites cabal has been vanquished. Nothing but happy days ahead for Thaksin.

[MrMojoRisin]

4 hours ago, wombat said:

Is there a statute of limitations on his crime against the Thai people?

What crimes would they be?

Do tell.

[MrMojoRisin]

2 hours ago, quake said:

Add me to that list.

Hope he goes to jail, if he dare set foot back here.

Methinks you are going to be disappointed. Expect the man to be mobbed by supporters and a constant presence on all forms of media for quite some time.

[Artisi]

7 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

He made it very clear what his “endgame” was - to come home and spend time with his grandchildren and leave politics to the new, younger generation.

Of course you really believe that? 

[MrMojoRisin]

1 hour ago, sambum said:

Serious question - Is there no statute of limitations on his "crimes"?

 

"Boss" seems to have got away with most of his sentences due to the statute of limitations - why not Thaksin?

What crimes?

[MrMojoRisin]

1 hour ago, nahkit said:

I don't think "Boss" has ever been sentenced to anything has he?

 

The statute of limitations applies to charging him and bringing him to trial.

 

Thaksin was brought to trial and found guilty so as far as I am aware, he still has to serve his time, there are no statute of limitations once you've been convicted.

 

(At least that's the way I understand it).

In answering a question, Pita said former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has the right to return to Thailand from his exile and given a fair legal trial. 
 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/pita-ready-to-be-pm-to-reform-article-112/