August 10, 20232 yr A man who posted violent threats against President Joe Biden and other officials online was shot dead during an FBI raid on Wednesday. Agents were attempting to serve an arrest warrant on Craig Robertson at his home in Utah, just hours ahead of a planned visit to the state by Mr Biden. A criminal complaint said Robertson posted threats on Facebook against Mr Biden and a prosecutor pursuing criminal charges against Donald Trump. The FBI declined to give more details. The raid happened at about 06:15 local time in Provo, about 40 miles (65 km) south of Salt Lake City. A criminal complaint outlined messages that Robertson made on Facebook including pictures of guns and threats to kill Mr Biden and Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan district attorney leading an investigation into a hush-money payment by Mr Trump to an adult film star. According to the complaint, other messages targeted US Attorney General Merrick Garland and New York Attorney General Letitia James. Robertson posted on Facebook: "I hear Biden is coming to Utah. Digging out my old ghillie suit and cleaning the dust off the M24 sniper rifle." It was just one of dozens of violent messages and photos of weapons posted on two of Robertson's Facebook accounts. FULL STORY
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post Fever pitched moment in time! Dont know much of the particulars of what set him off! Perhaps all the news surrounding all the scandals !imop To say this is indicative of all Make america great again supporters is a far left conspiracy theory beyond imagination! Everyone knows violence-is never the alternative! A 1 in 71 million thought actor that got caught up in the news events since the indictments by bidens / garlands doj imop stay tuned much more to come I expect,
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 21 minutes ago, riclag said: Fever pitched moment in time! Dont know much of the particulars of what set him off! Perhaps all the news surrounding all the scandals !imop To say this is indicative of all Make america great again supporters is a far left conspiracy theory beyond imagination! Everyone knows violence-is never the alternative! A 1 in 71 million thought actor that got caught up in the news events since the indictments by bidens / garlands doj imop stay tuned much more to come I expect, I’ll be dogonned I actually agree with ya!there are obviously strong feelings on both sides of the issue few will actually resort to violence oh well one less domestic terrorist ok by me!
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 47 minutes ago, riclag said: Fever pitched moment in time! Dont know much of the particulars of what set him off! Perhaps all the news surrounding all the scandals !imop To say this is indicative of all Make america great again supporters is a far left conspiracy theory beyond imagination! Everyone knows violence-is never the alternative! A 1 in 71 million thought actor that got caught up in the news events since the indictments by bidens / garlands doj imop stay tuned much more to come I expect, I call B.S. The Magadonian talking point about January 6 is to call the insurrectionists who stormed the capitol patriots. Trump vows to pardon those traitorous sleazeballs if he gains power again.
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August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post oops, this didn't work out too well for him now did it...........lol https://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/1689357928740855809
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post So, Trump's call for violence didn't go unheeded. More to come, no doubt.
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post Shot to death in his own home for making a stupid post on FaceBook? I certainly hope he did a bit more than that to be executed by the state in his own home.
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Shot to death in his own home for making a stupid post on FaceBook? I certainly hope he did a bit more than that to be executed by the state in his own home. Exactly How "the left" can think they are correct in this equation, I dunno.
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 3 hours ago, Jingthing said: I call B.S. The Magadonian talking point about January 6 is to call the insurrectionists who stormed the capitol patriots. Trump vows to pardon those traitorous sleazeballs if he gains power again. I've never heard conservatives refered to as "sleazeballs" before. Something about pot and kettle springs to mind
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 4 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: Exactly How "the left" can think they are correct in this equation, I dunno. To be fair, I think a lot on the extreme left would support summary executions for anyone wearing a MAGA hat.???? It reminds me of the lefty nurse in the UK who said anyone who voted Tory should be refused life saving treatment. #bekind
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 37 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Shot to death in his own home for making a stupid post on FaceBook? I certainly hope he did a bit more than that to be executed by the state in his own home. A stupid post? This is disingenuous even by your standards. Dozens of threatening posts and even threatened the FBI if they dared to return. They did.
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 46 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: I've never heard conservatives refered to as "sleazeballs" before. Something about pot and kettle springs to mind Magadonians are not conservatives! They're in a fascist cult. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/there-is-no-republican-party-conservative-judge-warns-trumps-maga-movement-has-america-in-grave-peril/ar-AA1f1bMo
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 5 minutes ago, NextG said: A stupid post? This is disingenuous even by your standards. Dozens of threatening posts and even threatened the FBI if they dared to return. They did. Yes - a stupid post. I've had people threaten to kill me. I didn't execute them in their home. Maybe the guy was suffering with mental illness. Maybe he shot at police. Lots of possibilities out there so let's wait for the facts to emerge. I'm just stating that I hope he wasn't executed JUST for posting on FB. I'd like to think we haven't reached that stage just yet, even if he had a red cap on.
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Magadonians are not conservatives! They're in a fascist cult. Maybe you could put that in your signature. It would reduce your need to post by around 80% ????.
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 46 minutes ago, JonnyF said: To be fair, I think a lot on the extreme left would support summary executions for anyone wearing a MAGA hat.???? It reminds me of the lefty nurse in the UK who said anyone who voted Tory should be refused life saving treatment. #bekind Totally false assertion. Shame on you.
August 10, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Yes - a stupid post. I've had people threaten to kill me. I didn't execute them in their home. Maybe the guy was suffering with mental illness. Maybe he shot at police. Lots of possibilities out there so let's wait for the facts to emerge. I'm just stating that I hope he wasn't executed JUST for posting on FB. I'd like to think we haven't reached that stage just yet, even if he had a red cap on. We haven't and you know it.
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 4 hours ago, riclag said: Everyone knows violence-is never the alternative! The Jan 6 crowd must have missed that memo. Along with a goodly portion of the gun-toting, Confed flag waving MAGA crowd.
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 59 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Shot to death in his own home for making a stupid post on FaceBook? I certainly hope he did a bit more than that to be executed by the state in his own home. He wasn't shot for "making a stupid post." Surely you would know this. The FBI was attempting to serve a warrant and the dude brandished a weapon. I'm sure more details will emerge. [Federal law enforcement sources told Fox News that Craig Robertson was killed around 6:15 a.m. Wednesday by FBI agents who were attempting to serve an arrest and search warrant at a Provo, Utah residence. A law enforcement source told Fox News Digital the individual had a weapon.] https://www.foxnews.com/politics/who-was-craig-robertson-utah-man-killed-fbi-agents-allegedly-making-threats-president-biden
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post Just now, Berkshire said: He wasn't shot for "making a stupid post." Surely you would know this. The FBI was attempting to serve a warrant and the dude brandished a weapon. I'm sure more details will emerge. I didn't say he was. I said I hope he wasn't. I haven't seen enough details yet to conclude either way but please do not misrepresent what I said.
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: So, Trump's call for violence didn't go unheeded. More to come, no doubt. The report below by Politico indicates this nutjob was armed at the time of the shooting. And the following as well: "Robertson referred to himself as a “MAGA Trumper,” a reference to former President Donald Trump’s “Make America Great Again” slogan, and also posted threats against top law enforcement officials overseeing court cases against Trump." ... Robertson’s posts indicated he did appear to own a long-range sniper rifle and numerous other weapons, as well as camouflage gear known as a “ghillie suit,” investigators said in court records. ... “The time is right for a presidential assassination or two. First Joe then Kamala!!!” authorities say Robertson wrote in a September 2022 Facebook post included in the filings." https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/09/utah-man-threatens-biden-fbi-killed-00110554
August 10, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: The report below by Politico indicates this nutjob was armed at the time of the shooting. And the following as well: "Robertson referred to himself as a “MAGA Trumper,” a reference to former President Donald Trump’s “Make America Great Again” slogan, and also posted threats against top law enforcement officials overseeing court cases against Trump." ... Robertson’s posts indicated he did appear to own a long-range sniper rifle and numerous other weapons, as well as camouflage gear known as a “ghillie suit,” investigators said in court records. ... “The time is right for a presidential assassination or two. First Joe then Kamala!!!” authorities say Robertson wrote in a September 2022 Facebook post included in the filings." https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/09/utah-man-threatens-biden-fbi-killed-00110554 Robertson’s posts indicated he did appear to own a long-range sniper rifle and numerous other weapons, as well as camouflage gear known as a “ghillie suit,” investigators said in court records. Oh yea, he was well stocked on the rifle front: https://nypost.com/2023/08/09/who-was-craig-roberston-utah-man-shot-dead-in-fbi-raid/
August 10, 20232 yr And lead-up background from the AP: "Clark said Robertson had a collection of perhaps 20 guns, though he noted that that wasn’t unusual for the area." ... "According to court documents, two FBI agents came to Robertson’s house after the initial warning about him from Truth Social in March. ... "In a Facebook post days later cited in the affidavit, he said, “To my friends in the Federal Bureau of Idiots: I know you’re reading this and you have no idea how close your agents came to ‘violent eradication.’” https://apnews.com/article/utah-biden-fbi-assassination-threat-ba3cc1d3b2f6cca8bd429febdcf04219
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post So much for free speech. And having an opinion. The socialist liberals democrats just shoot you down using the FBI as their strong arm to promote their communist ideas
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 2 minutes ago, BTB1977 said: So much for free speech. And having an opinion. The socialist liberals democrats just shoot you down using the FBI as their strong arm to promote their communist ideas True threats constitute a category of speech — like obscenity, child pornography, fighting words, and the advocacy of imminent lawless action — that is not protected by the First Amendment and can be prosecuted under state and federal criminal laws. https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1025/true-threats
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post 10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: True threats constitute a category of speech — like obscenity, child pornography, fighting words, and the advocacy of imminent lawless action — that is not protected by the First Amendment and can be prosecuted under state and federal criminal laws. https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1025/true-threats The news reports indicate the FBI were attempting to serve an arrest warrant on this guy for exactly that. "The FBI in Salt Lake City said the shooting occurred around 6:15 am. local time while special agents attempted to serve arrest and search warrants at a residence in Provo." "Robertson was facing three counts, according to the complaint -- interstate threats, threats against the president, and influencing, impeding and retaliating against federal law enforcement officers by threat." https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/man-killed-fbi-raid-connection-threats-biden-officials/story?id=102138966 Public threats to assassinate the president of the U.S., vice president and various law enforcement/prosecutors are not legally protected free speech, and never have been.
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post I wonder where this lowlife was radicalized? (tongue in cheek) In any event, the world was made a better place with his departure.
August 10, 20232 yr Popular Post It's perhaps easy to dismiss this guy as a lone, aberrant nutjob... And the same with the Jan. 6 rioters/insurrectionists... But let's remember who actually has lit the anti-government, grievance-filled fire under all these types and has mobilized them into action -- Donald Trump: "Robertson referred to himself as a “MAGA Trumper,” a reference to former President Donald Trump’s “Make America Great Again” slogan, and also posted threats against top law enforcement officials overseeing court cases against Trump." https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/09/utah-man-threatens-biden-fbi-killed-00110554 "“If you go after me, I’m coming after you!” Trump wrote in all caps Friday afternoon on Truth Social, which is run by a media company he co-owns." https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/04/feds-alert-judge-to-trumps-if-you-go-after-me-im-coming-after-you-post-00109944
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