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2 hours ago, anotherexpat4444 said:

why are the non-muslim people are joining these pro-hamas  movement .  they very well know islam dont love non-muslim 

 

Your comment is both racist, offensive and full of bigotry. 

Most people here might disagree on many political things, but certainly do not welcome religious bigotry towards any religion. 

Go away and try this foolish off topic comment and bigot fishing elsewhere. 

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Posted
20 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

An opinion, same as yours.

 

Israel has no plans to remove people from Gaza.

It's not hard to find an israeli ( ex ) minister that has openly expressed a desire for the removal of all Palestinians from Gaza. The others may not be openly saying it, though some have apparently hinted at it, but I'm pretty sure it's what they want.

 

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/departure-of-2m-inhabitants-solution-for-gaza-israeli-ex-minister/3062579

A former Israeli minister has said the "solution" to the situation in the Gaza Strip is the complete departure of its over 2 million Palestinian inhabitants.

Speaking on Israeli Channel 13, former Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked, said recently that the city of Khan Younis, located in the southern Gaza Strip, would be turned into a "soccer field" with the help of God and the Israeli army.

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18 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

You assert that Israel is committing war crimes.

 

Given the Allied bombing campaign over Germany in WWII, what is IDF doing differently?

You are deflecting, again. How about answering the question? Is israel committing war crimes or not?

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17 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

On October 7, Gaza was not occupied.

You deflect again.

Gaza was not occupied, that's true, but it was under the complete control of israel which controlled every thing that went into it, and there was a land and sea blockade. In other words a defacto occupation in everything except the name.

I wonder how you would have liked living there. Do you ever put yourself in the shoes of those that you so obviously hate?

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3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You deflect again.

Gaza was not occupied, that's true, but it was under the complete control of israel which controlled every thing that went into it, and there was a land and sea blockade. In other words a defacto occupation in everything except the name.

I wonder how you would have liked living there. Do you ever put yourself in the shoes of those that you so obviously hate?

You conveniently forgot to mention EGYPT.

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16 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

To be clear, I am not talking about legal definitions. Following your logic, the Nazis never committed war crimes.

 

If you would be more comfortable with other words:

 

The IDF invasion of Faza is morally comparable with the Allied bombing campaign of Germany during WWII.

Did the allies have guided bombs in WW2? Unless they did your argument is void, IMO.

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Posted
16 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Dead people don't care if the bombs that killed them are guided or not.

You are deflecting again. Don't quote me if you are not going to answer the question you quote.

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Posted
13 hours ago, Danny Australia said:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/01/the-gospel-how-israel-uses-ai-to-select-bombing-targets

 

Very compelling article explaining the high casualties in Gaza. Israel is relying on AI-based systems for the target creation process. They went from 50 targets a year to 100 a day.

 

“It really is like a factory. We work quickly and there is no time to delve deep into the target. The view is that we are judged according to how many targets we manage to generate.”

 

In early November, the IDF said “more than 12,000” targets in Gaza had been identified by its target administration division.

Apparently the AI can identify that a Hamas fighter is in his home in a residential building and they blow up the entire building to kill one guy.

They only get low level fighters as the leaders are in the tunnels.

 

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Posted
13 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

This isn't a war, more like "a bit of a tidy up and mowing the lawn" or if you're a Palestinian a slaughter.

It's vile seeing western spokesmen trying to skirt the issue of thousands of innocent people being blown up, by using weasel words.

I hope they regret what they did the rest of their lives.

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9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You are deflecting, again.

It's called "historical precedent". 

 

When you stand on the wrong side of history, you try to erase the past.

 

The Allies conducted a bombing campaign over Germany that killed many civilians, designed to eliminate the Nazis. The pro-Hamas types condemn Israel's attempts to eliminate Hamas through similar tactics as the Allies in WWII.

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Just now, Danderman123 said:

It's called "historical precedent". 

 

When you stand on the wrong side of history, you try to erase the past.

No, it's just deflecting.

Bit early to be saying how history will judge this, but I doubt it will be kind to israelis.

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3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No, it's just deflecting.

Bit early to be saying how history will judge this, but I doubt it will be kind to israelis.

After Hamas is gone, they will be forgetten, like Al Qaida.

 

 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, ezzra said:

 

Where were all the women rights and advocate of the world when the Hamas terrorists beat & rape and killed hundreds of helpless Israeli women who happened to be in a party? there are dozens of such organisations, non of them saw fit to speak up... 

 

 

Absolutely; there has been a deafening silence from “ Me Too” and the appalling, and utterly pointless “UN Women” had to be cajoled and pressurised into finally making a statement of condemnation.

 

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