My observations for a recent trip to Pattaya.

[advancebooking]

I just visited Pats and rented a condo short term near beach road. Observations:

- Walking street was really busy and a lot of fun. Great vibes there. Worth spending a night out on W.S for sure

- Hot Tuna bar has a fantastic rock band. 

- I noticed about 15 officers with DOPA jackets on surrounding a shop that had the BB guns. I asked the officer what was going on. He said 'checking documents'. I thought that was quite odd for all of them to be there at 1030pm at night. 

- I tried to get my washing done at a small laundry in the condo building at 9am. She said pick it up tomorrow. Noticed she had a balcony with empty rack (no clothes drying or anything from other customers). It was a hot morning with breeze. I thought it was ridiculous to suggest that it couldn't be done same day. Ended up buying small washing powder and putting it in machine myself elsewhere. Hung it up and was dry in 2 to 3 hours on balcony at condo. 

- There was so much plastic and rubbish on the sand at the beach. Last year I saw a tractor with the scrapper blade driving up and down the beach. Why do they not use this every morning during peak season. Hopeless local government. 

- I saw a lot of overweight old men lying in the sun for long time. Red lobster bodies and faces. 

- Walked down soi 6 and noticed a lot of farang men sitting alone at tables. Bar girls standing at the front of the bar staring at people walking down the road- with their backs to these guys. Got to wonder what sort of business model this is. Why are they not socialising with the fine specimens in the bar?

- Walking along beach road at night I saw a lot of working girls from many nationalities. A few looked Indian ladies. A lot of large African ladies, lot of trans gender thais and normal thai girls. 

- During morning exercise along the beach noticed some old farang at the bar having beer for breakfast. 

 

Thats about all I observed. 

[proton]

'Bar girls standing at the front of the bar staring at people walking down the road- with their backs to these guys. Got to wonder what sort of business model this is. Why are they not socialising with the fine specimens in the bar?'

 

Because most of them despise sex pats and sex tourists, they have zero in common with them and only interact with these foreign sad sacks when absolutely necessary.

[freeworld]

Did you eat at any restaurants?

 

In the 80's travelling in Austria and Germany, observed people at 7 in the morning dressed in business suits drinking beer.

[JimTripper]

13 minutes ago, advancebooking said:

There Walked down soi 6 and noticed a lot of farang men sitting alone at tables. Bar girls standing at the front of the bar staring at people walking down the road- with their backs to these guys. Got to wonder what sort of business model this is. Why are they not socialising with the fine specimens in the bar?

That's common. The bar girls standing outside typically don't go inside with you. What happens is you stop for them then other staff take over once you step inside. Lots of guys think they are going inside for a drink with a girl they see outside because they kind of escort you do the enterance.

[Celsius]

Were you the observer or were you being observed?

 

Sometimes, things are not what they seem.

 

 

[Lemsta69]

11 minutes ago, advancebooking said:

- Walked down soi 6 and noticed a lot of farang men sitting alone at tables. Bar girls standing at the front of the bar staring at people walking down the road- with their backs to these guys. Got to wonder what sort of business model this is. Why are they not socialising with the fine specimens in the bar?

 

You want to "socialise" with the BGs then you gotta buy them drinks. That's only for cashed-up two week millionaires, not lifers.

[petermik]

Exciting observations.....

[HappyExpat57]

OP - Thank you for your trip report. It's always nice to see Thailand from a fresh perspective.

 

To some other negative Nancy's - if you don't have something nice to say, then don't say it. Make your momma proud, not hang her head in shame.

[GypsyT]

14 minutes ago, proton said:

Because most of them despise sex pats and sex tourists, they have zero in common with them and only interact with these foreign sad sacks when absolutely necessary.

...which is daily.

[actonion]

35 minutes ago, advancebooking said:

I just visited Pats and rented a condo short term near beach road. Observations:

- Walking street was really busy and a lot of fun. Great vibes there. Worth spending a night out on W.S for sure

- Hot Tuna bar has a fantastic rock band. 

- I noticed about 15 officers with DOPA jackets on surrounding a shop that had the BB guns. I asked the officer what was going on. He said 'checking documents'. I thought that was quite odd for all of them to be there at 1030pm at night. 

- I tried to get my washing done at a small laundry in the condo building at 9am. She said pick it up tomorrow. Noticed she had a balcony with empty rack (no clothes drying or anything from other customers). It was a hot morning with breeze. I thought it was ridiculous to suggest that it couldn't be done same day. Ended up buying small washing powder and putting it in machine myself elsewhere. Hung it up and was dry in 2 to 3 hours on balcony at condo. 

- There was so much plastic and rubbish on the sand at the beach. Last year I saw a tractor with the scrapper blade driving up and down the beach. Why do they not use this every morning during peak season. Hopeless local government. 

- I saw a lot of overweight old men lying in the sun for long time. Red lobster bodies and faces. 

- Walked down soi 6 and noticed a lot of farang men sitting alone at tables. Bar girls standing at the front of the bar staring at people walking down the road- with their backs to these guys. Got to wonder what sort of business model this is. Why are they not socialising with the fine specimens in the bar?

- Walking along beach road at night I saw a lot of working girls from many nationalities. A few looked Indian ladies. A lot of large African ladies, lot of trans gender thais and normal thai girls. 

- During morning exercise along the beach noticed some old farang at the bar having beer for breakfast. 

 

Thats about all I observed. 

The old Farang at the Bar in the Morning, have been there since the night before

[bkk6060]

The guys in the bars on Soi 6 are owners or security or possibly cheap charlies.   Girls would never pass up a chance for lady drinks or go upstairs. 

 

Otherwise, your comments and complaints seem finicky.  

[khunjake]

31 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

 

You want to "socialise" with the BGs then you gotta buy them drinks. That's only for cashed-up two week millionaires, not lifers.

Exactly. Likely just the yocal farang gettin’ their buzz on who dont/wont pay for boon boom. Hence alone with a beer in hand to talk to. Miserable life. Pats really is the sweaty armpit of Thailand. 

[Trippy]

Pattaya = Paradise

[Lemsta69]

4 minutes ago, khunjake said:

Exactly. Likely just the yocal farang gettin’ their buzz on who dont/wont pay for boon boom. Hence alone with a beer in hand to talk to. Miserable life. Pats really is the sweaty armpit of Thailand. 

 

Sounds like it's you who has the miserable life if that's your take on our beloved Pattaya.

[Liverpool Lou]

54 minutes ago, advancebooking said:

Walked down soi 6 and noticed a lot of farang men sitting alone at tables. Bar girls standing at the front of the bar staring at people walking down the road- with their backs to these guys. Got to wonder what sort of business model this is. Why are they not socialising with the fine specimens in the bar?

No point in socialising, perhaps they were just recovering from a blow? 

[JackGats]

43 minutes ago, freeworld said:

Did you eat at any restaurants?

 

In the 80's travelling in Austria and Germany, observed people at 7 in the morning dressed in business suits drinking beer.

In the 80's living and working in Germany for decades, never observed the same.

[mikeymike100]

So is all sounds about normal??

[Liverpool Lou]

56 minutes ago, advancebooking said:

I tried to get my washing done at a small laundry in the condo building at 9am. She said pick it up tomorrow. Noticed she had a balcony with empty rack (no clothes drying or anything from other customers). It was a hot morning with breeze. I thought it was ridiculous to suggest that it couldn't be done same day. Ended up buying small washing powder and putting it in machine myself elsewhere. Hung it up and was dry in 2 to 3 hours on balcony at condo. 

Perhaps she had other customers' washing to do first?  The downside of your solution was that you had to shop for the powder, do your own washing and then not have it ironed.  

[freeworld]

11 minutes ago, JackGats said:

In the 80's living and working in Germany for decades, never observed the same.

Traveling around Europe by overnight train and arrive at the station early morning, observed people attired in business suits drinking beer, only what was observed.

 

There's a DW article https://www.dw.com/en/beer-before-work-why-is-it-so-normal-in-germany-to-drink-alcohol-in-the-morning/a-19024870

 

In the UK observed office people at lunch drinking beer as well.

[Liverpool Lou]

41 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

if you don't have something nice to say, then don't say it.

That would make a very boring forum, full of yes-men posts.

[Pattaya57]

1 hour ago, JimTripper said:

That's common. The bar girls standing outside typically don't go inside with you. What happens is you stop for them then other staff take over once you step inside. Lots of guys think they are going inside for a drink with a girl they see outside because they kind of escort you do the enterance.

Says someone that's obviously never been to soi 6 ever if that's what they think happens there 😆 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

52 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

if you don't have something nice to say, then don't say it.

How come you advocate that for others but not for yourself?  That is not nice.

[Tropicalevo]

1 hour ago, advancebooking said:

Why are they not socialising with the fine specimens in the bar?

Possibly the guys are locals who drink there regularly and are not interested in taking girls home.

When friends and I go to the bars (rarely), the girls all know us. We are in our early 60's to early 80's. All are married except me and we never take girls home BUT we go to the bars for some fun and the girls know that we will buy them drinks so they are happy to 'play' with us.

It is a bit of a laugh watching the new girls try to get bar fined by the married guys.

[ozimoron]

No stranger has ever walked into a soi 6 bar without the waitress asking them if they want a lady.

[Trippy]

33 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

No stranger has ever walked into a soi 6 bar without the waitress asking them if they want a lady.

That's not true, every bar's different. 

[JimTripper]

1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said:

Possibly the guys are locals who drink there regularly and are not interested in taking girls home.

When friends and I go to the bars (rarely), the girls all know us. We are in our early 60's to early 80's. All are married except me and we never take girls home BUT we go to the bars for some fun and the girls know that we will buy them drinks so they are happy to 'play' with us.

It is a bit of a laugh watching the new girls try to get bar fined by the married guys.

Many guys go there to talk and drink with other guys. You sound like one of those guys. Ask yourself why you are interested in being there with other guys. Do you like interacting with women only around other guys? Do you talk about women with other guys? Is the lady bar a way of being with other guys in a sexual venue without admitting you are sexually attracted to other guys?

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, advancebooking said:

Walked down soi 6 and noticed a lot of farang men sitting alone at tables. Bar girls standing at the front of the bar staring at people walking down the road- with their backs to these guys. Got to wonder what sort of business model this is.

Girls have realised the men are just drinkers only so don't waste time on them, girls are also on thaifriendly so are waiting for a message for a short time

[Tropicalevo]

8 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

Is the lady bar a way of being with other guys in a sexual venue without admitting you are sexually attracted to other guys?

I think that you should look inwards.

That is a weird conclusion to arrive at from my post.

So you are suggesting that all of the guys that go to bars and do not talk to the girls are there because they are sexually attracted to other men?

Would they not just go to a gay bar?

As I wrote

1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said:

BUT we go to the bars for some fun

 

[HappyExpat57]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That would make a very boring forum, full of yes-men posts.

 

That's fine for all the bored alcoholics with nothing better to do on topics that advertise said bored alcoholic fog. This OP was making a genuine, decent contribution to a forum that seems to decay more and more with each passing day.

[JimTripper]

19 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

I think that you should look inwards.

That is a weird conclusion to arrive at from my post.

So you are suggesting that all of the guys that go to bars and do not talk to the girls are there because they are sexually attracted to other men?

Would they not just go to a gay bar?

As I wrote

 

Most guys that like other guys would not be in a gay venue. They chat up other guys in places that are oriented to straights and appear uninterested in the girls. That's why I'm always suspicious of guys that want to chit chat in places where they should be talking to the women.

 

Many don't realize they are gay. They just know they are more comfortable being with and talking to other guys, or just doing things with other guys in general. Over time, they may come out and admit they like males better, but it can take a long time or years for that to happen.

 

For some much older guys like this, it never even turns sexual. It's just a guy that has all these male friends, usually much younger then himself, and it looks odd that he's having all these pool parties with little or no women present. People sometimes think why is this guy not married of have a gf and he is always around a group of guys? Kind of like an uncle figure, but it's not family.