Expat dramas

[itsari]

2 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

I assume you don't help everybody you meet. What did you see in this particular person that made you want to help him?

We have had a long friendship and had many drinks and humour together for the past 8 years 

He has a different set of rules in life and I have accepted that. When I say that I mean that he is sitting all day doing little while I am busy working at home. The lady at home has not liked me being friends with him as well. 

 

I simply wanted to help him as I could see that all his options had been closed regarding short term visas.

He had been a tourist for over 10 years.We would discuss the immigration rules for the Next move as in a game of chess.

 

[uttradit]

4 minutes ago, itsari said:

We have had a long friendship and had many drinks and humour together for the past 8 years 

He has a different set of rules in life and I have accepted that. When I say that I mean that he is sitting all day doing little while I am busy working at home. The lady at home has not liked me being friends with him as well. 

 

I simply wanted to help him as I could see that all his options had been closed regarding short term visas.

He had been a tourist for over 10 years.We would discuss the immigration rules for the Next move as in a game of chess.

 

Does he ever work?

[uttradit]

14 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

you avoid expats?

Have you found them to be great friends 

 

What do you do in Thailand? Mix with women? Hang out in bars with expats?

[AlexRich]

2 hours ago, itsari said:

I have met many foreigners here living in Thailand and one Californian man I was good friends with . He needed help with getting a visa and I loaned him 25000 to pay an agent . Now 8 months later still no return of the money even though he promised the money back in 2 months.

I do not want to see him again as I don't want any trouble. 

I have done something similar, with an ex work colleague, who borrowed money that he promised to pay back in 6 weeks, then 3 months, then never heard from him, and he wouldn’t respond to my emails. When I finally reached him (long story) he accused me of harassing him! I’m an obstinate character, so long story, I got my money back. 
 

I was very aware that it is unwise to lend money, but I went ahead anyway. I learned a valuable lesson. 
 

 

[Sigmund]

What can one expect with all the young tourist drunk brits or australians , dutch, germans or others, high on booze or weed ? These are the quality tourists ? fine, but then don't complain. These young tourists usually bring more trouble then money,

 

It's the retirees who own property in Thailand who must be encouraged to get facilitated retirement long stay visa, no matter from which country they are.

[uttradit]

3 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

I have done something similar, with an ex work colleague, who borrowed money that he promised to pay back in 6 weeks, then 3 months, then never heard from him, and he wouldn’t respond to my emails. When I finally reached him (long story) he accused me of harassing him! I’m an obstinate character, so long story, I got my money back. 
 

I was very aware that it is unwise to lend money, but I went ahead anyway. I learned a valuable lesson. 
 

 

I once lent money to a family member. Took 5 years to get it back.

[Searat7]

I have found it best to have a rule not to loan money in Thailand. In 19 years I have lost only 10,000 b which is not bad. If I see a good friend in need I would rather make the offer to help him out with a gift of money which was very much appreciated during Covid when I was stuck in my home country. 

[AlexRich]

Just now, uttradit said:

I once lent money to a family member. Took 5 years to get it back.

I’m impressed by your perseverance. I didn’t care about the money, I was more enraged by his deceit. If he had called me and said it might take a year or two, I would have been fine - but when he cut communication I realised he was duping me from the beginning.

[AlexRich]

5 minutes ago, Searat7 said:

I have found it best to have a rule not to loan money in Thailand. In 19 years I have lost only 10,000 b which is not bad. If I see a good friend in need I would rather make the offer to help him out with a gift of money which was very much appreciated during Covid when I was stuck in my home country. 

That makes sense. My loan days are over. Never again.

[LikeItHot]

I avoid them like the plague.  I have no desire to answer the identical questions over and over again.  If I sat down in a bar where I came from and was inundated with "where are you from, what do you do, how long have you been here, where do you live and who are you with?" the interviewer would leave with less teeth than he arrived with.  After ten years it gets extremely tiresome.  

[StayinThailand2much]

14 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Do you avoid expats?

Have you found them to be great friends 

 

I talk to other expats, but mostly when I'm away on holiday. Very hard to make friends, as the pool of expats is quite small, but with a myriad of very different interests, lifestyles, and opinions. I usually avoid compatriotes. We have a saying back home: "Stay away from storm and wind, but especially from compatriots abroad!", which, from experience, I can confirm to be good advice, particularly in Thailand...

Edited February 14 by StayinThailand2much

[itsari]

40 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

I assume you don't help everybody you meet. What did you see in this particular person that made you want to help him?

Just having known him for a long time.

I wanted to help him , simple as that

[kingstonkid]

14 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Just watching YouTube videos of expats in the Philippines fighting each other even though these people were friends for years in that community and all  "cliques" or groups 

 

So whether your a expat in any south east Asia country do you get involved in your expat community?

 

 

Whether it's Bali , Vietnam, Cambodia Thailand or in this case Philippines 

 

This example I used was a smaller city in the Philippines

 

Do you avoid expats?

Have you found them to be great friends 

 

 

 

Making friends in Thailand is no different than making friends anywhere else.  You use the same rules that you would use at home.  

 

Would you  lend a friend any large sums of  money .

 

If your friend got obnoxious would you still hang around with him.

 

If he was a drunk would you stick with him>

 

The same standards apply here.

[JimTripper]

31 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

I have done something similar, with an ex work colleague, who borrowed money that he promised to pay back in 6 weeks, then 3 months, then never heard from him, and he wouldn’t respond to my emails. When I finally reached him (long story) he accused me of harassing him! I’m an obstinate character, so long story, I got my money back. 
 

I was very aware that it is unwise to lend money, but I went ahead anyway. I learned a valuable lesson. 

 

It's not always deceit. More likely they CAN'T pay you back. That's why they ask in the first place, no money! A lot of people want to pay it back but can't get that job or whatever so it just turns into an avoidance issue.

[Kinok Farang]

2 hours ago, Keeps said:

If you had included the bogans it would have been the perfect post. 

My mistake,sorry mate.

[AlexRich]

3 hours ago, JimTripper said:

It's not always deceit. More likely they CAN'T pay you back. That's why they ask in the first place, no money! A lot of people want to pay it back but can't get that job or whatever so it just turns into an avoidance issue.

 

The man in question had a new job as a retail director, so he was well compensated. I only got my money back when I contacted his CEO privately ... I'm afraid on this occasion he thought he'd found a soft touch. I hadn't seen him for 10 years so the fact that he approached me probably meant that he'd already gone through a steady supply of suckers.  

[NoshowJones]

16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Never, too many foreigners, I only mix with other Brits.

Yes I can understand that, but I also like mixing with Americans as I have a lot in common with American people and have a lot of knowledge of their country and have travelled or driven over most of it.

[uttradit]

16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Never, too many foreigners, I only mix with other Brits.

Racist or nationalist? Seems odd. 

[NoshowJones]

7 hours ago, itsari said:

I have met many foreigners here living in Thailand and one Californian man I was good friends with . He needed help with getting a visa and I loaned him 25000 to pay an agent . Now 8 months later still no return of the money even though he promised the money back in 2 months.

I do not want to see him again as I don't want any trouble. 

If that was me I would be going all out to find him and yes I would be violent unless he was going to take me to an ATM.

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, itsari said:

Because I don't want trouble I presume you mean.

I would see red looking at him , better to stay away than cause trouble over a relatively small amount of money.

 

Maybe you should be getting a membership of the "scared of your own shadow" brigade.

[Captain Monday]

8 hours ago, itsari said:

I have met many foreigners here living in Thailand and one Californian man I was good friends with . He needed help with getting a visa and I loaned him 25000 to pay an agent . Now 8 months later still no return of the money even though he promised the money back in 2 months.

I do not want to see him again as I don't want any trouble. 

I hang with some foreigners that I met from Thai friends. Some of them have an attitude of they “don’t like foreigners” especially from their own country. 
 

None of these Farnungs have ever asked me for money. 

[georgegeorgia]

11 hours ago, itsari said:

I have met many foreigners here living in Thailand and one Californian man I was good friends with . He needed help with getting a visa and I loaned him 25000 to pay an agent . Now 8 months later still no return of the money even though he promised the money back in 2 months.

I do not want to see him again as I don't want any trouble. 

You sound like a good man and he is a lowlife man ,your wife could see that .

I understand you don't want to chase him ,just learn by it .

He was never your friend.

He used you , stay away from him ,he doesn't have your friendship anymore , he will regret that forever 

Edited February 14 by georgegeorgia

[georgegeorgia]

8 hours ago, AlexRich said:

I’m impressed by your perseverance. I didn’t care about the money, I was more enraged by his deceit. If he had called me and said it might take a year or two, I would have been fine - but when he cut communication I realised he was duping me from the beginning.

Ex work colleague?

Then you must of got on well at work with him from 10 years ago 

Others he borrowed off must of gave up chasing him I guess 

He was a lowlife 

Edited February 14 by georgegeorgia

[AlexRich]

13 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Ex work colleague?

Then you must of got on well at work with him from 10 years ago 

Others he borrowed off must of gave up chasing him I guess 

He was a lowlife 

Yes, I know better now. My only advice to anyone is never loan money to anyone.

[SAFETY FIRST]

23 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Do you avoid expats?

Have you found them to be great friends 

Many years ago when I arrived I had loads of expat friends, sadly over the years these foreigners have died off or gone back home because of job loss, divorce etc.

 

I have a big family now so I tend to avoid foreigners.

I work offshore and tend to spend my time with other offshore workers, we always have something in common to talk about. 

 

 

Recent years I've noticed the BTC guys (Dodgy dudes) but they dwindled off when bitcoin slumped.

 

It seems difficult to find an expat that's not unhinged these days, I enjoy talking to normal expats and socializing but not many about. 

 

Its always a bonus to talk with other Aussies. 🦘

Edited February 14 by SAFETY FIRST

[scubascuba3]

People who borrow money are obviously not good with it, that alone should be enough to say cannot

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/14/2024 at 11:21 AM, scubascuba3 said:

Select the expats you want to socialise and spend time with, most i know are fine, avoid the rest

 

Select the expats you want to socialise and spend time with

Which in my case was none of them.

I didn't move to LOS to spend time with farangs.

Seems most of them don't want to get involved with other farangs anyway, as they usually deliberately looked the other way when passing me, so as to avoid eye contact. I was usually amused, rather than offended.

 

I once tried a meeting of the expat club in Pattaya, but after 10 minutes of being ignored I decided to leave.

I don't spend time in the local boozer talking BS here, so why would I do it in LOS?

[JimTripper]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

I once tried a meeting of the expat club in Pattaya, but after 10 minutes of being ignored I decided to leave.

 

Does this meet at different locations? I saw a group of people at the big c extra food court that looked like a club meeting of some kind.

[SAFETY FIRST]

16 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

Does this meet at different locations? I saw a group of people at the big c extra food court that looked like a club meeting of some kind.

Lots of elderly European guys hang out there everyday. 

 

They seem OK, keep to themselves. 

 

Expat club now meets on 2nd road every week. 

 

https://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=KnKNE&m=JeLM8SLUjbIzzL&b=i1gL4yqUSfwCsDpw86a.Aw

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/PattayaExpatsClub/?ref=share&mibextid=NSMWBT

 

Edited February 15 by SAFETY FIRST

[scubascuba3]

7 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Lots of elderly European guys hang out there everyday. 

 

They seem OK, keep to themselves. 

 

Expat club now meets on 2nd road every week. 

 

https://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=KnKNE&m=JeLM8SLUjbIzzL&b=i1gL4yqUSfwCsDpw86a.Aw

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/PattayaExpatsClub/?ref=share&mibextid=NSMWBT

 

Got to be really bored to do that meet up, topics get desperate it seems