OPINION: If Mr. Trump takes power will more Americans REALLY leave the US this time?

[NoDisplayName]

This time is different.

How do I know?

 

Well, I took my own survey of like-minded individuals, and my particular favorite echo-chamber resonates decisively along the lines of my own thoughts.

 

Prove me worng!

[Prubangboy]

Just now, NoDisplayName said:

 

 

Prove me worng!

Uh, I just did.

 

Right above you.

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

Jingting is one of half a dozen posters here who inspired me to post here after a decade of lurking. So I don't want to derail his thread into  just laughing at Trump people here.

 

-PLUS, so much of their ardor feels weirdly performative. They hold armloads of fairly liberal positions on everything from healthcare to gun control. And then travel, which real republicans never do. Finally, they are very suspiciously Jesus-lite.

 

I've asked about this dozens of times, and they always turn into Marcel Marceau when pressed. I suspect that they are just lazy faux-contrarians.

 

Back on topic, ONLY liberals care about Thai culture or cultural anything. Conservatives are truly just here for the cheap noodles and willing women. As I tour Morocco, I am extremely unlikely to encounter a republican.

 

Liberals in general are more likely to be expats for that reason. Then pretend-conservatives like we find here, and then finally, ex-military who are likely to have some former connection to a place they expat to.

 

 

 

 

I guess I'm conservative then (I kind of am) because I did study Thai culture in my earlier years here and discovered it's really not my cup of tea, so I treat Thailand like a poorer man's Miami. It's strictly transactional. 

Of course mainstream American culture isn't my thang either!

Edited March 7 by Jingthing

[Prubangboy]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

 it's really not my cup of tea, so I treat Thailand like a poorer man's Miami. It's strictly transactional. 

 

Thai cultural interest means you're Buddhism-friendly. That's about 99.99% liberal-oriented in the west.

 

-In the west. 

 

 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

 

Thai cultural interest means you're Buddhism-friendly. That's about 99.99% liberal-oriented in the west.

 

-In the west. 

 

 

How about atheism? Is Buddism really a religion anyway?

[NoDisplayName]

9 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

Uh, I just did.

 

Right above you.

 

Wait, now I'm confused.  Are you saying it's NOT different this time?  That all the wailing and teeth-gnashing will turn out to be one great vegan nothingburger?  That despite all the promises to leave, few ever will?  They'll wake up after (s)election day and realize nothing much has changed?

 

I suppose you're right.

[Prubangboy]

1 minute ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Wait, now I'm confused.  

 

I suppose you're right.

People don't move for political reasons unless they're dodging a holocaust. Fattie's not my flavor, but he's too inept for that.

[Prubangboy]

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

How about atheism? Is Buddism really a religion anyway?

The culture of Buddhism, the practice of meditation, is something that a lot of people like me like about Buddhism in Thailand.

 

By Thai Buddhist standards, a California-style Buddhist is to a local Buddhist what a quaker would be to a catholic. Caveat: I am not a Buddhist.

 

Conservative interest in other cultures is at the level of:

 

"It's poisoning our blood" (hilarious real quote).

 

Edited March 7 by Prubangboy

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

People don't move for political reasons unless they're dodging a holocaust. Fattie's not my flavor, but he's too inept for that.

You're wrong. 

People do.

The only question is about the numbers.

[Prubangboy]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're wrong. 

People do.

The only question is about the numbers.

 

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're wrong. 

People do.

The only question is about the numbers.

I guess I might qualify. The Covid decimation of my Appalachian county (one in four dead) and the subsequent  local health system collapse was a primary cause of our move.

 

But that was only tangentially connected to Fattie. We'd made our peace with the Lord Lovers and fake militia cammo wearers long ago. We called them: Family. I see Latte sippers moving to a blue state instead of overseas.

 

As long as I'm here, Morocco is up and coming as retirement place for Frenchies. Problems: A grand a month to rent an apartment in Casablanca in a whitie-friendly area. Where you'd want to be to be near so-so health care.

[BenStark]

Tell us who left, or stop trolling

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/20-stars-who-pledged-flee-country-trump-was-elected-are-they-945888/omari-hardwick/

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, BenStark said:

Tell us who left, or stop trolling

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/20-stars-who-pledged-flee-country-trump-was-elected-are-they-945888/omari-hardwick/

The topic is about ALL Americans. not just the tiny number of people who are celebrities.

Americans leave all the time for different reasons.

Some leave for political reasons.

 

[MonteD]

2 hours ago, BenStark said:

 

You mean the far left businessinsider article?

 

Yep, bias-left reporting, folie à duex or shared delusional disorder (SDD).

[BenStark]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The topic is about ALL Americans. not just the tiny number of people who are celebrities.

Americans leave all the time for different reasons.

Some leave for political reasons.

 

 

Who cares if the garbage collector left for political reasons?

 

Point is that those that went on their soap box to declare they would leave, didn't leave, and some of them this time they declare the same.

 

Only shows what a bunch of poor lefty losers they are

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

Who cares if the garbage collector left for political reasons?

 

Point is that those that went on their soap box to declare they would leave, didn't leave, and some of them this time they declare the same.

 

Only shows what a bunch of poor lefty losers they are

That's your obsession. Not the topic here.

[BenStark]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That's your obsession. Not the topic here.

 

In that your obsession is starting a topic about something you, or anyone else, ever can prove. It's called a troll topic where I grew up

[Prubangboy]

11 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

 

 

Only shows what a bunch of poor lefty losers they are

He pretends to care. I guess the connubial bliss light bulb has gone off. For good.

[BenStark]

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

16 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

Who cares if the garbage collector left for political reasons?

 

Point is that those that went on their soap box to declare they would leave, didn't leave, and some of them this time they declare the same.

 

Only shows what a bunch of poor lefty losers they are

Expand  

That's your obsession. Not the topic here.

 

Look at your own created topic title, will more Americans REALLY leave the US this time?

 

It clearly shows that you ask if those that went on their soapbox REALLY left.

 

Do you have a list of garbage collectors that declared they would leave?

[Prubangboy]

2 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

 

 

Do you have a list of garbage collectors that declared they would leave?

You're too into this stuff. You go straight to butt hurt.

 

Every. Time. Where's the bantz?

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, BenStark said:

 

In that your obsession is starting a topic about something you, or anyone else, ever can prove. It's called a troll topic where I grew up

If the topic offends you no need to read or post to it.

 

As I have said I am making no predictions.

As far as proof it will be knowable IF Mr. Trump comes into power.

So I hope it doesn't become knowable!

 

To add, there is much more to the fabric of societies than celebrities and garbage men.

Though I reckon that overall garbage men are more useful.

 

 

Edited March 7 by Jingthing

[quake]

Haters always Hate.

[Dolf]

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

For people that are motivated to leave by politics, it would occur to them.

I have met many Americans abroad over the years who have been motivated to leave by politics.

But the vast majority have been right wingers.

So right wingers do what they say, lefties don't.

[Skipalongcassidy]

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Well more maga Americans are moving to Russia now. Maybe they won't feel the need if Trump takes power. 

Link please... I think that you have confused yourself... the story was conservative canadians moving to russia.

[Walker88]

27 minutes ago, quake said:

Haters always Hate.

Losers always lose.

 

That's what makes them trumpers.

 

[Walker88]

Actual TDS, as opposed to the projected version, is the affliction of people who think a clown who schlepps NFTs of himself as a fighter pilot or astronaut, and whose major announcement is selling golden sneakers made in China, is a good candidate for President of the United States of America.

 

That fake astronaut is the same guy who regularly ran to the White House bunker when a Code Pink protest (the average Code Pinker is a 70 year old lady) appeared on Pennsylvania Ave. Not exactly "The Right Stuff", though he does have the right stuffing, as in the same morbid obesity his cult carries.

 

LOL!!!!!

[Walker88]

Maybe I'll be the only one (to cheers from the chubby old bald trumpers, swilling beers on their Pattaya barstools, who live in Thailand anyway, and not the US).

 

trumpers are, by definition, idiots. They actually think a clown who schlepps NFTs of himself pretending to be an astronaut or a fighter pilot---kind of like a 21st Century Village People---is the kind of person who should be POTUS. Let's not forget his latest business venture: golden sneakers made in China. LOL!!!

 

Ask a trumper what their messiah's policies are and they'll say "close the borders" and then maybe "own the libs". trump has no other policies, as he's too dumb to even begin to understand how to run a $30 trillion economy, just as he has no idea how to run a business, except via fraud (as the courts have now shown). Oh...I forgot..."play golf" is another policy, as in trump 1.0 he ran up $170,000,000 in costs to the US taxpayer with his golfing, according the the Office of Management and Budget.

 

Look at what he did---vs his promises and hyperbolic claims---while serving before:

 

---built only 54 miles of his "wall" along a 1800 mile border, despite having an R House and Senate for his first 2 years....and despite claiming "Mexico will pay", got not a single peso from Mexico. Zero.

 

---Promised to replace the Affordable Care Act with something "unbelievable", but absolutely failed to deliver anything, and never had an idea, despite claiming he had 'the best healthcare plan ever'

 

---Repeatedly promised "Next week is Infrastructure Week", but like Godot, it never showed up (until Biden delivered it)

 

---Enacted tariffs on Chinese goods, claiming "China will pay". China paid as much as Mexico did for donny's wall. The US consumers, however, did have to pay. Then because China retaliated by switching food sourcing to Brazil, trump had to massively increase US Socialism, by handing money to farmers

 

---Did get a $2 trillion tax cut, which went to guys like me, but began a level of fiscal profligacy  never seen on the planet, ending up with an $8,400,000,000,000 National Debt increase, an amount that dwarfed any GDP growth over that time, meaning he just ran up the US credit cards, with the mailman coming with the bills later

 

---trump's economy rode the coattails of what Obama did. Imagine if 2008/9 had happened in 2017 (The Financial Crisis). Mr 6 Bankruptcies wouldn't have had a clue how to address it. The US banking system and insurance industry would have collapsed

 

So, trumpers, what are trump's actual policies? Having fired anyone remotely competent in his first Administration, who are the "best people" trump will get for any Admin 2.0? MTG?, Bimboebert? Matt PizzaGaetz? His entire pool of "best people" are all losers and clowns.

 

Maybe trump will announce KKKristianity is now the official religion of the US, though he will have already suckered US Talibangicals who actually believe trump even knows how to hold their book rightside up. But hey, two Corinthians walked into a bar.....

 

The first crisis trump faces, if he is elected and if he remains out of jail, he will fail miserably. Injecting Lysol didn't work the first time, and it certainly is not the be all, end all for any subsequent crisis.

 

Fail is what trump does. Only his Game Show Host gig got him out of the financial hole after he squandered his massive inheritance + allowance + daddy's co-signature on donny's loans.

 

I suspect trump will rule over the collapse of the US. Timing will be important. The markets will see his abject incompetence---in fact, trump will throw a monkey wrench into the economy, doing something typically trumpian, which means idiotic, such as when he suggested he would default on US Debt owed to foreigners. Only Steve Cohn saved the US debt market and the dollar by telling trump it would not be wise for a country needing foreigners to fund its deficits to default on those same needed foreigners. There will be no Steve Cohn in any trump 2.0. trump will have a Lou Dobbs or MTG or maybe Ivanka, not Cohn.

 

As trump fails, he will do the only thing he knows how to do (other than fail): he will find someone else to blame. Maybe it will be immigrants, maybe Moslems, maybe even Jews. Remember trump did say "some very fine people" about folks who marched with tikitorches chanting "Jews will not replace us".

 

So I won't be there should trump 2.0 happen. Yes, trumpers won't miss me any more than I'll miss being around idiots like them. I have several foreign properties as well as residence cards, including in the EU. I have sufficient wealth to endure any disaster trump creates. Not everyone does.

 

Those who will suffer most are the very people who support the guy, as their [lack of] skills and talents will leave them destitute as the US economy tumbles. There will be some schadenfreude watching his goobers suffer. They deserve it, so there will be no sympathy as the US declines, perhaps not into a Third World hellhole---or is that Sh!thole?---but decline it will be. I will plan for a collapse of the dollar and soaring US interest rates, as trump is fully capable of instigating both.

 

I might even still come on this Forum and say, "I told you so". That would be childish, but childish is something trumpers understand very well, because their messiah is just an incompetent, petulant, albeit vindictive child.

Edited March 8 by Walker88

[simple1]

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Edited March 8 by simple1

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Link please... I think that you have confused yourself... the story was conservative canadians moving to russia.

Refer to the youtube channel of maga Z pro Putin American called Expat American. 

[GypsyT]

12 hours ago, Prubangboy said:

I am extremely unlikely to encounter a republican.

Go you Gun Show - they are there.

[Jingthing]

This article isn't about this but I wonder if President Biden being reelected over Mr. Trump will motivate a wave of super Magas to leave as well? If so where will they go? Russia and Hungary sure but does Thailand have appeal for such extremists?