Neeranam Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 Some say the ball is in Iran's court. BS, all that is needed is a ceasefire in Gaza, and end to the Genocide and the recognition of a Palestinian state- come on Israel, it's entirely in your hands. 1 2 1
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted April 19, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2024 15 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Iran is a peaceful nation who have never started a war Would that be the same Iran that was responsible for the bombing of the Jewish community centre in Buenos Aires in 1994, killing 85 people and wounding 300 …. that peaceful nation ?? 1 2 1
Chomper Higgot Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Well yeah , Iran would regard them as freedom fighters heroically freeing Palestine from invaders and attempting to get the Al-Aqsa Mosque back into Muslims hands . Was the Iranian attack on the Israeli Embassy in Argentina an attack on Israel and why shouldn't Israel respond to that attack The attack on the Israeli Embassy in Argentina was an act of terrorism. It was not an attack by Iranian Military against an Israeli Embassy. 2 2
Wobblybob Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 2 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Some say the ball is in Iran's court. BS, all that is needed is a ceasefire in Gaza, and end to the Genocide and the recognition of a Palestinian state- come on Israel, it's entirely in your hands. Some say the wrecking ball is in the building next to the embassy.🥴 1
Bkk Brian Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Well that’s what the Israelis have said. It may or may not be true. Neverthess the bombing of the Iranian Consulate was a direct attack against Iran and an escalation. Actually the report that they had killed one of the planners of Oct 7th was not originally from an Israeli source but an Iranian one. 1 1
Popular Post billd766 Posted April 19, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2024 51 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Iran fired 360 ballistic missiles, drones, and cruise missiles at Israel ….. minor way, ha ha ha Slow drones and missiles and after giving Israel plenty of notice. From what I have read lately Iran has something like 3,000 ballistic missiles which are probably a lot faster faster and more accurate, which they chose not to use at the time. Do you think that Iran should have responded with a heavier barrage or simply ignored the Israeli attack on their consulate in Syria. Further to that, what response do YOU think Iran should make to the second unprovoked attack by Israel? 3 1
Chomper Higgot Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Actually the report that they had killed one of the planners of Oct 7th was not originally from an Israeli source but an Iranian one. Link. 2
Chomper Higgot Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 1 minute ago, billd766 said: Further to that, what response do YOU think Iran should make to the second unprovoked attack by Israel? Which is a question deserving of an answer. 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 19, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2024 38 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I doubt they both agree on what those people were doing in the Consulate I doubt very much Iran accepts they were terrorists. They were however in an Iranian Consulate. So the attack was a direct attack on Iran. Who cares what Iran accepts, the IRGC have been designated terrorists since 2019 4 2
Popular Post billd766 Posted April 19, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: No, they hit a Consulate, not an Embassy; it was a terrorist cell hiding in the consulate in Damascus, which Israel thankfully eliminated Do you have source link for that? 2 1
Neeranam Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 3 minutes ago, billd766 said: Slow drones and missiles and after giving Israel plenty of notice. From what I have read lately Iran has something like 3,000 ballistic missiles which are probably a lot faster faster and more accurate, which they chose not to use at the time. Do you think that Iran should have responded with a heavier barrage or simply ignored the Israeli attack on their consulate in Syria. Further to that, what response do YOU think Iran should make to the second unprovoked attack by Israel? What disturbs me is that the US knew this attack was going to happen and did nothing to stop it. Also, they supply the weapons to Israel. 1 1
Bkk Brian Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 34 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Israel are insane or suicidal by attacking Iran a second time. They were warned and now I hope Iran launch everything they have at them and the US stay out of it, as it has nothing to do with them, as usual. I don't think your going to get your wish, Iran are trying to make as little of this as possible, can't see them doing anything much in return. I know that will disappoint you. 2
Bkk Brian Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Link. this has already been discussed numerous times here's the link from a few days ago https://aseannow.com/topic/1324904-breaking-news-iran-potentially-triggers-world-war-3/page/24/#comment-18847056
ThaiFelix Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Who cares what Iran accepts, the IRGC have been designated terrorists since 2019 as would Woody Woodpecker if it suited the US of Lies hahahaha 1 1
Bkk Brian Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 Just now, ThaiFelix said: as would Woody Woodpecker if it suited the US of Lies hahahaha US of Lies hahahaha Oh dear 2
Popular Post billd766 Posted April 19, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2024 19 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Would that be the same Iran that was responsible for the bombing of the Jewish community centre in Buenos Aires in 1994, killing 85 people and wounding 300 …. that peaceful nation ?? And before that how far back do you want to go? In the 1930s and 1940s the Stern gang, Irgun and Likud were proscribed Jewish terror organisations in Palestine, responsible for many attacks on the British including blowing up the King David hotel in Jerusalem where 91 people were killed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing Yes that same peaceful Jewish nation people were responsible for all those deaths. Except that it was not even a nation at the time. 1 1 1 1
aussiebrian Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: No, they hit a Consulate, or an embassy; it was a terrorist cell hiding in the consulate in Damascus, which Israel thankfully eliminated It wasn't even a consulate, it was a military building adjacent to the consulate, it was not a diplomatic facility but a building used by the IRGC for military operations. 1 1 1
aussiebrian Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Doctor Tom said: The biggest disappointment in this report is that the strike appears to be at a low level and did not target Iran's illegal nuclear programme. That is just putting off the inevitable. Don't worry, that is yet to come... 2
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted April 19, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2024 28 minutes ago, billd766 said: And before that how far back do you want to go? In the 1930s and 1940s the Stern gang, Irgun and Likud were proscribed Jewish terror organisations in Palestine, responsible for many attacks on the British including blowing up the King David hotel in Jerusalem where 91 people were killed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing Yes that same peaceful Jewish nation people were responsible for all those deaths. Except that it was not even a nation at the time. Not that again . That doesn't need to be mentioned in every thread about Israel . Its not as if you are bringing something new to the discussion and the same link gets posted over and over again . 2 1 1 1
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted April 19, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: The attack on the Israeli Embassy in Argentina was an act of terrorism. It was not an attack by Iranian Military against an Israeli Embassy. Argentina's highest criminal Court blames Iran/Hezbollah for the bombing 2 1
cdemundo Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: I don’t know if five leading terrorist were killed and being saddened is not the issue. The bombing of a consulate by Israel’s military is a direct military action against Iran. Iran has responded and Israel has responded again. Hence the escalation. I'm sorry, I didn't quite get that. Can you say it again? 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said: Argentina's highest criminal Court blames Iran/Hezbollah for the bombing But the attack was not conducted by the Iranian military. It’s a false equivalence. However, it was also 1992. Given your objection to earlier terrorist events/history can you please advise the cut-off date for what’s permitted for consideration and what is not?
Popular Post Walker88 Posted April 19, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Doctor Tom said: If you think that, then think again. The sole reason for the programme is to develop nuclear weapons, and yes, that is illegal. They were helped by both the French and the Pakistanis, no surprise there. Yes, you are right, in that the totally inadequate treaty was quite rightly torn up by the US, so there are insufficient to no checks going on. If a nation has not signed the international agreement against the development of nukes, then they are breaking no law. Israel hasn't signed any agreement either, so if Iran's program is illegal, Israel's 140 already-built nukes would also be illegal. That's just semantics, not a slur against Israel. As for the JCPOA, which trump abrogated, it was 100% successful. I've written this elsewhere enough, but the combo of the JCPOA and Stuxnet had Iran a decade or more away from even coming close to a nuke. (Even the Israeli govt admitted its success, although they tried to muddy the waters by 'leaking' documents from 2003 about Iran's nuke program...the equivalent of Iraq's WMD, which Saddam had ceased development of after Gulf War I.) The JCPOA was also intended as a stepping stone to additional deals, such as getting Iran away from supporting Shi-a terrorism. Tearing it up, as trump did simply because it was an Obama victory, put everything back to square one, and most significantly, put Iran back in the nuke game. The Iranians are quite clever, despite their mullahs' attempts to keep the place in the 7th Century. They might even have been the first nation after the US to independently develop nukes (Oppenheimer was incorrect that others would figure it out; instead, tech transfer and/or espionage was what gave every single other nuke power the ability.) Yes, Iran got help from Pakistan's A. Q. Khan, who got his knowledge from the Chinese, who got it via espionage. Iran's missile tech came from a very roundabout source which I won't note, but it would surprise many here. I believe it remains classified still. Israel does not have the weaponry able to take out Iran's deepest bunkers, but they can take out power stations adjacent to HS centrifuge facilities, as HS centrifuges require an extremely steady and non-fluctuating power intake (A superior power station is one key used to detect nearby U235 enrichment facilities). Of course, Stuxnet, imbedded in imported machinery from an EU nation, worked previously to ruin Iran's HS centrifuge gear, which opened up things to engage in what resulted in the JCPOA. 3
retarius Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Doctor Tom said: If you think that, then think again. The sole reason for the programme is to develop nuclear weapons, and yes, that is illegal. They were helped by both the French and the Pakistanis, no surprise there. Yes, you are right, in that the totally inadequate treaty was quite rightly torn up by the US, so there are insufficient to no checks going on. It is not illegal if you renounce the NPT, which NK and Iran have done. Both countries were suffering UM sanctions for dropping the treaty. Both tried to trade a commitment not to seek nukes with IAEA oversight , for some sanctions relief. Scurrilously they didn't get the sanctions relief, despite the IAEA confirming that they were not breaking the treaty. Do you blame them for dropping the NPT? I think all nations that want to stay independent and sovereign need nukes to prevent the US with regime changes like Saddam & Gaddafi (both of whom gave up nukes). Kim saw he was in the same program and said FO and built his nukes (we think), but we don't see the US harassing him with colour revolutions too much these days.
Nick Carter icp Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: But the attack was not conducted by the Iranian military. It’s a false equivalence. However, it was also 1992. Given your objection to earlier terrorist events/history can you please advise the cut-off date for what’s permitted for consideration and what is not? The Argentinian Court recently found Iran to be responsible for the attack on the Israeli Embassy in 1992 . A few days before Israel attacked Iran's consulate . The day after the Argentinian Court found Iran to be responsible, Israel attacked Iran . So the two attacks could well be related . Irans gets found to have attacked the Israeli Embassy, the next day Israel attacks Iran's Consulate 2
Danderman123 Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 6 minutes ago, Walker88 said: Iran's missile tech came from a very roundabout source which I won't note, but it would surprise many here. I believe it remains classified still. I believe the Iranians got their hands on Russian R-12 and R-14 missile tech. NK got R-16, I believe.
OneMoreFarang Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 I hope Iran will retaliate and destroy Israel's nuclear weapons. Because officially those nuclear weapons don't exist. Iran is accused to try to get nuclear weapons. But they don't have them. Israel has nuclear weapons, everybody knows it. But "the west" pretends they don't exist. So, if Iran would destroy them then what would they have done? Nothing. Because you can't destroy what doesn't exist. Win/win. 1 1
Eloquent pilgrim Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Which is a question deserving of an answer. Then why don’t you answer it if you think it is deserving of an answer ? 2
Popular Post CG1 Blue Posted April 19, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2024 2 hours ago, Neeranam said: Iran is a peaceful nation I almost spat my tea out then! Now I know you're just on a wind up 🙄 1 1 1
Popular Post aussiebrian Posted April 19, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2024 42 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: But the attack was not conducted by the Iranian military. It’s a false equivalence. However, it was also 1992. Given your objection to earlier terrorist events/history can you please advise the cut-off date for what’s permitted for consideration and what is not? Wow, don't you realize Iran funds and controls it's proxies. It was organised and funded by Iran. Don't you understand that Hezbollah, HAMAS, are all Islamic terrorist cells are controlled by Iran, the head of the snake or you just forget or conveniently hide the facts? The cut off date? Do you mean the start date. Let's say three and a half thousand years ago before Islam was even invented. We can take it from there. 3
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