Why open a beer bar?

[georgegeorgia]

As wandered aimlessly around the streets of Pattaya last month in my 6 week sentence of boredom ....

I looked to see some beer bars in those complexes Rompho etc busy whilst others night after night had no one 

I used to like a "Aussie";bar in the Rompho complex market in Jomtien sadly the owner was apparently shafted by his girlfriend and lost the bar .

But please don't get me off topic ,I want to know this question and please be direct .

 

Why does a farang start or buy a beer bar knowing it's higher % to fail ,higher percentage to working hard for the money eg having to be nice to people and talking with often drunk patrons 

 

Whats the reason and please I'm not trying to be judgemental , 

 

If I was to buy or start say a beer bar in the Rompho complex Georgie's bar , I know it's in higher statistical analyses it's going to fail or break even perhaps 

So what's the reasons someone would do it ?

Could it perhaps be a hobby ?

 

 

 

 

Edited June 9 by georgegeorgia

[worgeordie]

It seemed like a good idea at the time ......

 

regards Worgeordie

[georgegeorgia]

2 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

It seemed like a good idea at the time ......

 

regards Worgeordie

This is the one of the reasons.

May I ask if a Geordie is Scottish, I have in all my wisdom in life heard that description but in my life of wisdom never bothered to research that 

 

[MalcolmB]

Cheap beer and staff training would be the reason I am contemplating it.

 

[georgegeorgia]

Just now, MalcolmB said:

Cheap beer and staff training would be the reason I am contemplating it.

 

It would be exciting the first few weeks.....😂

[Hummin]

7 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Cheap beer and staff training would be the reason I am contemplating it.

 

I do not believe thats true.

 

Its rather the most expensive beer, or hard work for a cheap beer.

 

Never seen a successful foreign owned bar without an co owner (foreigner) who work hard to be on top of everything. 

 

By the way, what kind of bar do op had in mind?

 

 

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

By the way, what kind of bar do op had in mind?

I think the main mistake I have seen is the choice of women, the lack of staff and lack of consistency.

Hot slim women personally trained by me. 

[Hummin]

14 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

I think the main mistake I have seen is the choice of women, the lack of staff and lack of consistency.

Hot slim women personally trained by me. 

 

I guess some think thats exiting

[georgegeorgia]

20 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I do not believe thats true.

 

Its rather the most expensive beer, or hard work for a cheap beer.

 

Never seen a successful foreign owned bar without an co owner (foreigner) who work hard to be on top of everything. 

 

By the way, what kind of bar do op had in mind?

 

 

I would like to start a bar where us academics can meet and talk intelligent intellectual conversations

 

[giddyup]

Good way to make a small fortune.☹️

[foreverlomsak]

36 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

May I ask if a Geordie is Scottish

No, a Geordie is from the Newcastle area

[Hummin]

 

2 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I would like to start a bar where us academics can meet and talk intelligent intellectual conversations

 

I know one educated intelligent bar/restaurant hotel owner, but he is not dealing with cheap girlie beer bars. 

 

And he survived covid keeping most of his staff.

[georgegeorgia]

16 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

I know one educated intelligent bar/restaurant hotel owner, but he is not dealing with cheap girlie beer bars. 

 

And he survived covid keeping most of his staff.

And what topics is he talking about in the bar he has ?

Any topics on The Manila subway or about books on Statistical data?

[Hummin]

Being a beer bar owner takes a toll on an healthy mind and body!

 

If you have mental and health challenges from before, and socially awkward, bar life might not be your thing. 

 

You also need to have very little or no emphasis with girls and their families, as well stay out of other mens business when they are in love with your the girls. 

 

Talk politics and religion and world problems on repeat night after night to make sure you keep your regulars who make your bar look busy. 

 

 

Edited June 9 by Hummin

[worgeordie]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

This is the one of the reasons.

May I ask if a Geordie is Scottish, I have in all my wisdom in life heard that description but in my life of wisdom never bothered to research that 

 

No a Geordie is not Scottish ,but hails from Tyneside  , Newcastle on Tyne ...NE England

 

regards worgeordie

 

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

And what topics is he talking about in the bar he has ?

Any topics on The Manila subway or about books on Statistical data?

First of all he have been a child of high ranked officials, met world leaders, interested in sports, life, do many different activities and sports, social smart, have energy and good at multitasking. Not many people have those skills, and after one meeting, remembers your name, your gf/wife name, and make sure you feel welcome every time you meet. 

 

Most important he manage to keep his staff, and thats something rear in Thailand. 

 

Most complain they train the staff and loose them, he manage to keep them for many years. 

 

Not to forget, his food is excellent, and he know his business and every little detail. 

 

 

[scubascuba3]

Guys trying to be the big man

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

As wandered aimlessly around the streets of Pattaya last month in my 6 week sentence of boredom ....

I looked to see some beer bars in those complexes Rompho etc busy whilst others night after night had no one 

I used to like a "Aussie";bar in the Rompho complex market in Jomtien sadly the owner was apparently shafted by his girlfriend and lost the bar .

But please don't get me off topic ,I want to know this question and please be direct .

 

Why does a farang start or buy a beer bar knowing it's higher % to fail ,higher percentage to working hard for the money eg having to be nice to people and talking with often drunk patrons 

 

Whats the reason and please I'm not trying to be judgemental , 

 

If I was to buy or start say a beer bar in the Rompho complex Georgie's bar , I know it's in higher statistical analyses it's going to fail or break even perhaps 

So what's the reasons someone would do it ?

Could it perhaps be a hobby ?

 

You sound like you expect they think about what they are doing.

Think again.

[OneMoreFarang]

I think for some guy it's something like this:

I will spend anyhow most of my time in bars and spend money. So why don't I open my own bar and drink in my own bar.

Make it look like I want, play the music which I want, hire only girls which I like, etc.

And if they do that for fun, fine.

The problem is if guys think they open a bar to make a lot of money... 

[steven100]

The only person who makes money from your bar is the local Police Sergeant ....

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

May I ask if a Geordie is Scottish, I have in all my wisdom in life heard that description but in my life of wisdom never bothered to research that 

For someone so full of it (wisdom) you don't half post a load of it.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

I would like to start a bar where us academics can meet and talk intelligent intellectual conversations

 

Obviously, you meant to type "US academics". not "us academics".

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Never seen a successful foreign owned bar without an co owner (foreigner) who work hard to be on top of everything. 

Look around a bit, there are many foreign-owned bars that have been successful for many years.

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Look around a bit, there are many foreign-owned bars that have been successful for many years.

yes, but they have a good team, have social skills, knows how to handle people, know the business, and willing to work hard to make it work. 

 

So many just pour money in, and do not walk to extra mile to succeed, because they trust the wrong people to do the work and think they know how to run a business. 

 

Those with lack of social skills, kill the bar driving the employes and the customers away, 

[KhunLA]

Why open ?  ... because you're an alcoholic and shouldn't drink & drive 

[Denim]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

And what topics is he talking about in the bar he has ?

Any topics on The Manila subway or about books on Statistical data?

 

Quantum mop mechanics. 

[atpeace]

14 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Why open ?  ... because you're an alcoholic and shouldn't drink & drive 

It's a challenge and they enjoy the social aspect of being an owner.  Not for me but I know a couple successful bar owners.  They aren't making a lot but seem happy.  Problem is that most t never  get to enjoy themself because they lack the skills and luck to make it here.  

[georgegeorgia]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

as well stay out of other mens business when they are in love with your the girls.

Ahhh very important point.

Imagine being a bar owner and ole Trevor on his 2 weeks trip comes to your bar every night and falls in love with Pom the vicious bitch bar girl who had 5 boyfriends....but...you can't say nuthin to Trevor !!

[georgegeorgia]

43 minutes ago, Hummin said:

yes, but they have a good team, have social skills, knows how to handle people, know the business, and willing to work hard to make it work. 

 

So many just pour money in, and do not walk to extra mile to succeed, because they trust the wrong people to do the work and think they know how to run a business. 

 

Those with lack of social skills, kill the bar driving the employes and the customers away, 

Yes I think as a farang bar owner YOU have to be there in your own business everyday!

I recall an Irish bar many moons ago in Pattaya that failed as the farang owner didn't attend 

 

[DaLa]

3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

It would be exciting the first few weeks.....😂  hours

 

That and I have enough trouble knowing when to stop without having a fully laden bar downstairs muttering  'drink me ...drink me' at 4 AM.