American Driver Arrested after Road Rage Incident in Wichit

[richard_smith237]

5 minutes ago, Dan O said:

No interest in watching it. It wont show the whole situation from beginning to end so you'll never have the full story of what happened

 

What is commented on the Facebook page of the Phuket Times:

https://www.facebook.com/PhuketTimeNews/posts/844182321165945?ref=embed_post

 

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Girl meets foreign guy, crashes car! Near Central Junction, an incident happened late today. (Clip below the comment). The woman who caused the incident told us that they were following each other in a tunnel near Central Junction, Phuket. But this foreigner tried to overtake and finally, there was a loud horn honking and there was a blast that they had to stop the car. The foreigner stopped the car too. Then this foreigner walked down from the car, cursed and smashed the back area until there was a dent and tried to open the door of his car, but it couldn't. Amazing. Parked the car so that this foreigner won't let him drive away because he had already crashed his car.

From there, this foreigner got back to the car again and soon got down for the second time and tried to get out that he was, so he recorded a video. It is expected that this man did not dare to do anything when he saw that he recorded the video. Recently, the victim girl has already reported the information and stated that if there is a disturbing clip, please send it to me as proof.

 

 

So, is the Thai woman blocking the path of the American because he has already damaged the car in an incident that was not caught on any earlier video... 

 

Or, is this the incident caught on video where the American hits the car and causes a dent ? - but that is in response to her blocking the road ?

 

 

 

 

 

[Gottfrid]

1 hour ago, lordgrinz said:

Keep in mind, the women turned her car sideways across traffic to block him in at one point

Where did you find that out? It only states she stopped at one time. Not even mentioned at what point or where. Might have been at the traffic light, as he state he went out at that time.

[Gottfrid]

1 hour ago, ravip said:

 However, do you consider it right to jump out of a car at a red light and in a fit of rage try and open another drivers door? 

 

I guess you misunderstood me - NO, I was not justifying the morons behavior and I agree 100% when you say "... stating an emergency, as well as in a fit of rage don´t give a rats arse".

 

Just wanted to high light how this is justified by some because the locals display road rage.

 

Ok, my mistake. Understood. 🙂 

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Female asian driver driving her car with no idea the havoc she is causing all around her - because in Thailand they do not display anger towards people being an idiot when driving. Maybe she will now be more careful about what she is doing when driving. I often think that Thais should display their anger towards an idiot by blasting their horns when someone drives badly, otherwise what is there to tell them they are being unacceptable - there aint no police around. But I understand Thai social rules and that loss of face is a huge thing here - so just like all the Thais I just stay calm and ignore all the idiots.

 

Please no...  One of the good things about driving here is the relative absense of 'horn use'... 

In other countries the use of the horn is exhausting unnecessary noise (think Indonesia - where even being a passenger is exhausting because of all the horns - its as dumb as the overuse of the whistle)...

 

So.. from my perspective - Hats off to the Thai's who do not get involved in this incessant horn-smashing.... 

 

 

1 minute ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Although - there was one Thai one day who was extremely annoying and dangerous to me and other drivers. I drove up fast next to him and blasted my horn at him for about 20 seconds while I swerved towards him and back and towards.  He was totally shocked and freaked out - I have black out windows but he had none - it was amazing watching him react. He actually pulled over and stopped and I could see his head shaking and jerking, while I kept going. When I told the wife she was apoplectic - and I promised never to do it again.  We dont drive much - but we did not drive for about a week - and then did not drive on that road for a month or so.

 

Seems that you behaved like an erratic nutcase...   Remember, you can't re-educate all those around you so its better to chill than to get irate.... Additionally, even when you do get angry and become unhinged, here is always someone angrier, more unhinged and more likely to be weaponised than you. 

 

 

I used my horn very sparingly and when I have, I try to make it a shorter 'pap' rather than an abusive 'blast' and even then I've seen other drivers being visibly angry, just by the shift in their driving style from 'oblivious and careless' to 'highly erratic and completely nutty' (as if they are completely unable to control their anger at being 'told off' by a stranger in another car (such is the fragile nature of some characters on the roads).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ben Zioner]

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do only Americans behave like that? 

Naah.. only Trump voters.

[Denim]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The car owner, identified only as Mr. Sunny,

 

Surname : ' Disposition '

[lordgrinz]

5 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Where did you find that out? It only states she stopped at one time. Not even mentioned at what point or where. Might have been at the traffic light, as he state he went out at that time.

 

Watch the video.

[lordgrinz]

17 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

What is commented on the Facebook page of the Phuket Times:

https://www.facebook.com/PhuketTimeNews/posts/844182321165945?ref=embed_post

 

 

So, is the Thai woman blocking the path of the American because he has already damaged the car in an incident that was not caught on any earlier video... 

 

Or, is this the incident caught on video where the American hits the car and causes a dent ? - but that is in response to her blocking the road ?

 

I take it two incidents, but in either case she also can't block someone in, not to mention that it is dangerous to do so. If I felt blocked in and in danger of being attacked, I am going to use my two-ton weapon to escape, even if that means ramming through the car(s) blocking me in.

[retarius]

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do only Americans behave like that? 

Or is that normal behaviors for Thais so there is no reason to complain if a Thai behaves "normal"?

No the English love road rage too. But it is associated generally with Audi and BMW drivers. Violent idiots, in other words, who think they are more important than you and should be allowed to pass you at high speed.  

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, lordgrinz said:

 

I take it two incidents, but in either case she also can't block someone in, not to mention that it is dangerous to do so. If I felt blocked in and in danger of being attacked, I am going to use my two-ton weapon to escape, even if that means ramming through the car(s) blocking me in.

 

Agreed,... especially IF he was on a 'genuine emergency run'....    But in this case, he didn't need to ram her (which he didn't) as there clearly was still room to go around to the left (which he did)...

 

Its clear he'd lost his temper...     the incident looks 'tit for tat' to me and there was an initial 'incident' before the incident we see in the video. 

 

 

It seems the American man tried to aggressively overtake the Thai woman in tunnel and used the horn...  and she didn't let him in, they both stopped and the American man got out and hit the car (causing damage) and tried to get into the car...

... the both then drove on, her overtaking him and blocking him, so to try and stop him (becasue he'd already caused damage hitting (punching her car) - this was the part caught on cam... 

 

[josephbloggs]

3 minutes ago, retarius said:

No the English love road rage too. But it is associated generally with Audi and BMW drivers. Violent idiots, in other words, who think they are more important than you and should be allowed to pass you at high speed.  

And Ronnie Pickering.

[Gottfrid]

14 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Watch the video.

Ok, found the link now. Yeah, it looks like  a bit strange. The question, though, is if she is trying to change lane at the red light. Hard to know from that.

[soalbundy]

I would charge him for that baseball cap alone. As an American shouldn't he be wearing it backwards? The woman driver was probably temporarily blinded by the colour.

[lordgrinz]

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Agreed,... especially IF he was on a 'genuine emergency run'....    But in this case, he didn't need to ram her (which he didn't) as there clearly was still room to go around to the left (which he did)...

 

Its clear he'd lost his temper...     the incident looks 'tit for tat' to me and there was an initial 'incident' before the incident we see in the video. 

 

 

It seems the American man tried to aggressively overtake the Thai woman in tunnel and used the horn...  and she didn't let him in, they both stopped and the American man got out and hit the car (causing damage) and tried to get into the car...

... the both then drove on, her overtaking him and blocking him, so to try and stop him (becasue he'd already caused damage hitting (punching her car) - this was the part caught on cam... 

 

 

Yup, it's how I saw it too, which is why I said they should both have been arrested.

[retarius]

I am in no doubt the man is lying about his wife's emergency. If it was an emergency he would have driven on. He's a hot head who needs deporting, the kind of American that ruins Phuket for everyone.

[LudwigK]

Not more important reports available???  Then it is good...

[TroubleandGrumpy]

35 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Please no..  One of the good things about driving here is the relative absense of 'horn use'... 

In other countries the use of the horn is exhausting unnecessary noise (think Indonesia - where even being a passenger is exhausting because of all the horns - its as dumb as the overuse of the whistle)...

So.. from my perspective - Hats off to the Thai's who do not get involved in this incessant horn-smashing.... 

 

I agree - not something I disagree with - but it is a reason they drive so badly and ignorantly.

 

35 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Seems that you behaved like an erratic nutcase...   Remember, you can't re-educate all those around you so its better to chill than to get irate.... Additionally, even when you do get angry and become unhinged, here is always someone angrier, more unhinged and more likely to be weaponised than you. 

 

I agree - the wife has told me the same. It was the one and only one 'breach' of protocol and it was when I first arrived here.

 

35 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I used my horn very sparingly and when I have, I try to make it a shorter 'pap' rather than an abusive 'blast' and even then I've seen other drivers being visibly angry, just by the shift in their driving style from 'oblivious and careless' to 'highly erratic and completely nutty' (as if they are completely unable to control their anger at being 'told off' by a stranger in another car (such is the fragile nature of some characters on the roads).

 

Agreed. 

[Steven Pattaya]

Yet Thai deliberately runs over foreigner pedestrian, all captured on video, nobody arrested.

[Gobbler]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

So... 

 

1) American Man (Mr Sunny) driving his wife to hospital in a huge hurry due to a medical emergency. 

2) Overtakes vehicles (he's in a hurry, its medical emergency).

3) Thai Lady (Ms Sand) doesn't like being overtaken (abruptly) and tries to take back 'her place'

4) This forced Mr Sunny to brake hard and his unwell wife 'bumped' inside their vehicle. 

5) Enraged, the medical emergency suddenly became less important than teaching another driver a lesson and Mr Sunny attempted to confront Ms Sand.

 

 

Now: Where is the property damage ? Did Mr Sunny get out and hit and damage the car physically ?

 

 

**on this, I've been in a situation whereby I had to rush my Wife to Hospital in Bangkok traffic... 

'Hazard lights on'...  flashing main lights repeatedly, I pushed through traffic, went through red-lights (cautiously - slow moving traffic anyway)...   arrived at the ER.... grabbed the porter, bundled my wife into a wheel chair... took my son out of his car seat and followed my Wife into ER..  

Forgetting about the car, my keys were brought to me about 10mins later (the staff had parked it for me).... 

- In this situation the last thing on my mind was getting out and confronting someone and wasting valuable time...   

 

This guy [Mr Sunny] may be quite a loose cannon - but it would also appear that Ms Sand is a clearly terrible driver and seemed to deliberately impede someone who was clearly in a hurry - did she see him hustling to get through traffic an 'brake test' him ? thus angering him ?

 

Either way, getting out of a car and attempting to confront or attack another driver is a toolish thing to do.... but so is deliberately impeding someone (if thats what she was doing...  its also possible she was simply oblivious to the world around and driving as if she were the only person in the world, which can also be infuriating for nearby road users).

 

 

 

 

In America, I run red lights carefully and when I see a policeman I flag them down and ask them to escort me to the hospital. They always help.  They turn on lights and siren and lead me through the traffic lights and stop signs.  The last was when my 80 year old father had a medical emergency.  It probably saved me 2 to 3 minutes to get him to the emergency room. 

 

Now imagine doing that here with cops that are never found and idiots who purposely block ambulances.

[Polaky]

She might have given him a birdie 😀

[John Drake]

If one of the two drivers had managed to control their temper and just let the incident pass, nothing further would have happened. 

[AhFarangJa]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

So... 

 

1) American Man (Mr Sunny) driving his wife to hospital in a huge hurry due to a medical emergency. 

2) Overtakes vehicles (he's in a hurry, its medical emergency).

3) Thai Lady (Ms Sand) doesn't like being overtaken (abruptly) and tries to take back 'her place'

4) This forced Mr Sunny to brake hard and his unwell wife 'bumped' inside their vehicle. 

5) Enraged, the medical emergency suddenly became less important than teaching another driver a lesson and Mr Sunny attempted to confront Ms Sand.

 

 

Now: Where is the property damage ? Did Mr Sunny get out and hit and damage the car physically ?

 

 

**on this, I've been in a situation whereby I had to rush my Wife to Hospital in Bangkok traffic... 

'Hazard lights on'...  flashing main lights repeatedly, I pushed through traffic, went through red-lights (cautiously - slow moving traffic anyway)...   arrived at the ER.... grabbed the porter, bundled my wife into a wheel chair... took my son out of his car seat and followed my Wife into ER..  

Forgetting about the car, my keys were brought to me about 10mins later (the staff had parked it for me).... 

- In this situation the last thing on my mind was getting out and confronting someone and wasting valuable time...   

 

This guy [Mr Sunny] may be quite a loose cannon - but it would also appear that Ms Sand is a clearly terrible driver and seemed to deliberately impede someone who was clearly in a hurry - did she see him hustling to get through traffic an 'brake test' him ? thus angering him ?

 

Either way, getting out of a car and attempting to confront or attack another driver is a toolish thing to do.... but so is deliberately impeding someone (if thats what she was doing...  its also possible she was simply oblivious to the world around and driving as if she were the only person in the world, which can also be infuriating for nearby road users).

 

 

 

 

Several times I have seen a car coming up the road, lights flashing, hazards on, forcing their way through traffic. I always move and let them go. My Wife once asked why they drive so stupid, to which I pointed out that you never know if they have an emergency, so just let them go, and if they are in front they are no danger to me. One day, it could be you, as it was in your case, and nobody knows how they will react in such a stressful situation until you find yourself in it.

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

In the OP it says He holds an international driver’s license.''

 

When will they ever learn...............?

For Mr Confused..there is no such thing as an International Driving/Driver's Licence.

[JeffersLos]

2 hours ago, ravip said:

jump out of a car at a red light and in a fit of rage try and open another drivers door? 

 

Maybe he has Monkey Pox. 

[richard_smith237]

3 minutes ago, John Drake said:

If one of the two drivers had managed to control their temper and just let the incident pass, nothing further would have happened. 

 

100% agree... So many similar incidents and incidents which lead to an accident are caused by a 'dual fault'....  i.e. two separate parties...  both parties behaving poorly, both driving badly etc... 

 

In so many of these news reports we see how easily something would be avoided if just one of the parties rose above the issue....

 

In this case - the guy was trying to get his wife to the hospital in an emergency - but the Thai driver reacted to his forceful driving...   That would have been the end of it, but then the American driver reacted back in retaliation further escalating a situation instead of getting on with his task. 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, KannikaP said:

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

In the OP it says He holds an international driver’s license.''

 

When will they ever learn...............?

For Mr Confused..there is no such thing as an International Driving/Driver's Licence.

 

A colloquialism... Obviously they are referring to an IDP (International Driving Permit)... 

[n00dle]

4 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

That information is in the link to the original report.

but its really not. says she stopped abruptly in front of him, but no context

[NedR69]

5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do only Americans behave like that? 

Or is that normal behaviors for Thais so there is no reason to complain if a Thai behaves "normal"?

Beep your horn the next time a driver in front of you is waiting for a green light and doesn't move quickly when it turns green.  Hell, might even get shot.  

 

[brianthainess]

15 minutes ago, Screaming said:

Try living in South Chicago and you will find many reasons to be racist.

Why live there if it's that bad, in a gun toting country. I expect most were born before you, it is your legacy of slaves that is coming back to hit you in the face.

[Jerry777]

2 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

I'd say so. I'm particularly afraid of Basketball Americans when they get angry driving. Even though Thais are more dangerous they will very rarely exit their car to start fights. There's entire road rage channels on YouTube with nothing but fights breaking out over driving which is commonplace in Thailand.

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