Just now, shdmn said:

The traffic is getting really bad.  Not just on weekends anymore. Totally ruins the place for me. 

This is why I live central. I can walk if the 2nd road or beach road baht bus is in grid-lock 😉

1 minute ago, shdmn said:

The traffic is getting really bad.  Not just on weekends anymore. Totally ruins the place for me. 

About 5 months ago returning form Festival one afternoon of a public holiday took 45 min and my condo is just below the Big Buddha, under 5ks, was so over it called up the agent that sold me my condo and listed it, since then purchased some land and will build a new place in Sattahip, looking forward to moving down there.

3 hours ago, Njoku said:

Uneven footpaths, I can deal with the footpath disappearing and they way some shops encroach on it but it really pisses me off the paving stones missing poping up etc, cost me a smart watch when I tripped once

I agree!

The reason is sewage pipes are under it and they need to have easy access.

Non local walks in Thailand!

 

On 9/13/2024 at 9:51 AM, Pattaya57 said:

For me it's something new I've only just seen in the last 5 months I've been back.

 

Indian tourists walk 4-5 abreast on the small Soi's. Cars and bikes beep their horns behind them and they just ignore them and make them go around.

 

Where does this arrogance come from? Why haven't we heard of more tourists being hit as some of the car and bike riders I've seen have gotten really angry at them.

 

So what really grinds your gears....

Are we allowed to bash fat people with hairy body (especially sweaty armpits) walking around in a beer branded tank top, cargo trunks, old slippers and think they are the gifts to women. Im not naming any nationality for now 😄

1 hour ago, GypsyT said:

I agree!

The reason is sewage pipes are under it and they need to have easy access.

Non local walks in Thailand!

 

The smell some parts in Pattaya and Jomtien is really over the top, and those parts who are flooding during the heavy rainfall, you can just imagine whats floating up. 

The most annoying in Pattaya is the polluted beaches and the traffic. When living at a beach destination, you really want to swim as well, but I guess that fades away for some the older you get, or the beach was not really the purpose of lving in Pattaya in the first place. 

6 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

This is why I live central. I can walk if the 2nd road or beach road baht bus is in grid-lock 😉

I chose Pratumnak, out of the worst of central but walkable to walking st and Buakhao

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

The most annoying in Pattaya is the polluted beaches and the traffic. When living at a beach destination, you really want to swim as well, but I guess that fades away for some the older you get, or the beach was not really the purpose of lving in Pattaya in the first place. 

If i wanted to swim I'd go to Nang Ram beaches, not Pattaya or Jomtien, doesn't take much effort to go to better beaches

On 9/13/2024 at 10:39 PM, 3STTW said:

Anyway, rant over.

 Not anywhere near soon enough.

18 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

If i wanted to swim I'd go to Nang Ram beaches, not Pattaya or Jomtien, doesn't take much effort to go to better beaches

Traffic 😄

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Traffic 😄

never experienced traffic getting there

4 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

never experienced traffic getting there

Clear water? 

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Clear water? 

Yes

12 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

This is why I live central. I can walk if the 2nd road or beach road baht bus is in grid-lock 😉

But then you are inhaling exhaust fumes and PM2.5.  I develop a hack if I don't wear a well-sealed N95 mask everywhere I go.  Walking along any of the major roads is especially bad.  I try take back alleys as much as possible. 

 

Emission standards are low to non-existent in Thailand so it's a lot worse than in the west.  If Thailand was serious about improving their air pollution problem they would tighten up those standards.

Food prices are a rip-off compared to non tourist areas . No complaints about the quality of the stuff at my favourite veg . restaurant ( been going there for nearly 20 yrs and the food is exactly the same every time ) , but the prices are now at western ( UK ) levels - 110 bt for rice ! By comparison , same thing in Udon would be a quarter of the price .

Now I prefer to make my own , all the ingredients are available , so why not ?

1 hour ago, persimmon said:

Food prices are a rip-off compared to non tourist areas . No complaints about the quality of the stuff at my favourite veg . restaurant ( been going there for nearly 20 yrs and the food is exactly the same every time ) , but the prices are now at western ( UK ) levels - 110 bt for rice ! By comparison , same thing in Udon would be a quarter of the price .

Now I prefer to make my own , all the ingredients are available , so why not ?

What tourist areas are you talking about? I hear that Phuket is getting quite expensive but I don't find prices all that bad around Pattaya.  Food has gone up a lot but not as much as in the west, so it's still a lot cheaper imo. 

Ah, the good ole' days of Pattaya are long gone. On to greener pastures. Text book example of over tourism by some of the worst tourists on the planet. I am amazed that the infrastructure has managed to hold up as the rate at which they are putting up new condos etc has been unbelievable.

 

Pratumnak was once a peaceful lush and green area with a few houses and smaller condos ... no more. Jomtien is now lined with tall condos as far as the eye can see. In 12 years it went to being fairly pleasant to crowded and intolerable. I've read on Thaifriendly some of the girls say "no india man". Yea I can understand why.

 

I try to be fair but when the behavior is quite obviously consistent among a group of people then a spade is a spade. I was quite surprised at how loud Russian and Chinese people are when they started invading Jomtien 10 years ago. My trips to 7-11 were unpleasant as i would see what the poor counter girls would have to put up with from some of the Russian and Chinese tourists. Loud, demanding and down right rude and impolite. Not one thought about trying to adjust and behave with the Thai politeness and humble demeanor I've come to appreciate.

The never-ending road construction, almost as soon as it's "done" it starts all over again!

1 hour ago, CanadaSam said:

The never-ending road construction, almost as soon as it's "done" it starts all over again!

It's not just the roads, it's any construction. They can't get it correct and lack of education.

4 hours ago, shdmn said:

What tourist areas are you talking about? I hear that Phuket is getting quite expensive but I don't find prices all that bad around Pattaya.  Food has gone up a lot but not as much as in the west, so it's still a lot cheaper imo. 

In Pattaya there are variations in pricing even on one soi, for example Buakhao, thai food can cost 50 baht or 100 baht for the same thing, they charge tourist prices when they can get away with it 

On 9/15/2024 at 10:17 AM, scubascuba3 said:

If i wanted to swim I'd go to Nang Ram beaches, not Pattaya or Jomtien, doesn't take much effort to go to better beaches

 

 

An hour by car there and another hour back seems like a long time to me to go to the beach on a regular basis.

 

30 minutes ago, Espanol said:

 

 

An hour by car there and another hour back seems like a long time to me to go to the beach on a regular basis.

 

Sounds like you need a swimming pool, once or twice a week to Nang Ram would be fine, fast going down there these days with all the flyovers, think i cycle there in 1.5 hours

On 9/13/2024 at 3:12 PM, NowNow said:

 

It's Mumbai.... obviously a very long time since you were there and they were definitely walking in the road then too.

When I went to Mumbai they were sleeping on camp beds in some lanes of the highway!

When people that are retired living here cry and whine like babies about having to do things the Thai way and about how saying the thais are inept. Then when they're told if they don't like it they can go home they really get upset 🤣

I also swim on Jomtien beach. From Copacabana on toward South is fine. Around Lumpini better and the beach always empty.

No raw sewage smell neither. Manhole covers are sealed. I don't get it why they can't do it on Dongtan beach as well... They call it "Millionaires Row" and smell of shxxt is strongest!

 

 

On 9/13/2024 at 2:51 PM, Pattaya57 said:

Where does this arrogance come from?

From what I can see, it started many years ago... they used to earn $1000 a year and then the call centers moved there and they started earning $10,000 a year and came here on vacation as what they felt was wealthy tourists who deserved special privileges for their phenomenal wealth.. maybe that is still going on. 

Selfish dimwits ignoring no smoking signs in bars and restaurants.

On 9/13/2024 at 6:10 PM, ElwoodP said:

Mostly people view the "new posts" button so they never see which forum the posts are in.

 Mentioning Pattaya in the post may be the give away for most.

On 9/15/2024 at 1:44 PM, Hummin said:

The most annoying in Pattaya is the polluted beaches and the traffic. When living at a beach destination, you really want to swim as well, but I guess that fades away for some the older you get, or the beach was not really the purpose of lving in Pattaya in the first place. 

 

Wongamat is fine

On 9/15/2024 at 9:42 PM, persimmon said:

Food prices are a rip-off compared to non tourist areas . No complaints about the quality of the stuff at my favourite veg . restaurant ( been going there for nearly 20 yrs and the food is exactly the same every time ) , but the prices are now at western ( UK ) levels - 110 bt for rice ! By comparison , same thing in Udon would be a quarter of the price .

Now I prefer to make my own , all the ingredients are available , so why not ?

 

I think the overheads in Pattaya would be higher than Udon to be fair.