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An incident occurred in Bangkok on September 23, when a 14-year-old girl fatally stabbed her grandmother following a heated argument. The grandmother, known for her alcohol abuse, had been verbally abusive toward the girl and her younger brother, often accusing them of being orphans. The constant conflict between them tragically culminated in violence.

 

At approximately 14:00, Pol Lt. Pichet Rodyang, Deputy Inspector (Investigation) at Samae Dam Police Station, received a report of a fatal stabbing at a house in Soi Ekachai 119, Bang Bon district. Authorities, including forensic teams and paramedics, arrived at the scene where they found the body of Mrs. Rattanaporn, 48, lying in a pool of blood. She had sustained eight stab wounds: three to her neck, one to her back, and four to her stomach.

 

 

A sharp knife, about 30 cm long, and a hammer were discovered near the body and collected as evidence. The suspect, the victim’s 14-year-old granddaughter, fled the scene after the attack but returned after about an hour to surrender to the police. She was taken into custody at Samae Dam Police Station.

 

Mr. Jenwut, 67, the victim’s husband, stated that he and the victim had been together for over 30 years. The victim’s daughter, the mother of the suspect, had abandoned her children shortly after their birth, leaving them to be raised by the grandmother. The victim was known for her daily drinking habits, which often led to arguments with her granddaughter. Though the conflicts were frequent, he never expected such violence. He confirmed that the victim had a history of verbally abusing the children, particularly when intoxicated.

 

A neighbour , Mrs. Jannapa, 52, who lived in the same building, described the victim as someone who enjoyed drinking but generally had a good heart. She added that the granddaughter was polite and obedient, although she had only completed her education up to the sixth grade due to financial difficulties. Neighbours had attempted to help the girl continue her studies, but her grandfather could not afford the school fees. 

 

The motive for the crime is believed to stem from the emotional toll of constant verbal abuse. The victim had reportedly insulted the girl’s younger brother, calling him an orphan, which deeply hurt the suspect and led to the fatal confrontation.

 

The authorities are coordinating with a multidisciplinary team to handle the investigation, as the suspect is still a minor. Meanwhile, the victim body was sent for autopsy at Siriraj hospital.

 

The police investigation into the incident is ongoing.

 

-- 2024-09-24

 

 

There's just no respect for the elderly any more. It's becoming more and more like the west every day.

There  ....  take that granny ... you won't be abusing us again now will you    !!

16 minutes ago, gargamon said:

There's just no respect for the elderly any more. It's becoming more and more like the west every day.

 

did you read the report? clearly not.

it's really sad that something like this has happened.

 

by the way, respect is a two-way street.

Father and mother abandon the girl, if the father was involved at all,  then an alcoholic, abusive grandma takes over. The end result was tragic for those involved, but a child without parents to teach her respect is bound to be angry. As one said, respect goes both ways and is a taught behavior. This type of situation is repeated daily with almost 35% of children raised here, and the endgame shows in the violence.

2 hours ago, gargamon said:

There's just no respect for the elderly any more. It's becoming more and more like the west every day.

Why should age command respect?

Respect is earnt by being a decent person. 

Certainly no respect due in this case where the Grandma is an alcoholic and abuses the kids.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Father and mother abandon the girl, if the father was involved at all,  then an alcoholic, abusive grandma takes over. The end result was tragic for those involved, but a child without parents to teach her respect is bound to be angry. As one said, respect goes both ways and is a taught behavior. This type of situation is repeated daily with almost 35% of children raised here, and the endgame shows in the violence.

You trying to muscle in on the (TAT like) statistic fortune telling...

I think grandma hit the Lao Khao every day   

3 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

Neighbours had attempted to help the girl continue her studies, but her grandfather could not afford the school fees. 

And that is just one of the problems with the education system.

It is supposed to be free.

No winners in this story.

Everyone is a victim.

4 hours ago, gargamon said:

There's just no respect for the elderly any more. It's becoming more and more like the west every day.

Did you understand what you read in the news? That means, you believe, it´s just to be an arse just as long you live to get old you will finally get respect.

 

Do you understand how stupid that sounds?

3 hours ago, nakhonandy said:

Why should age command respect?

Respect is earnt by being a decent person. 

Certainly no respect due in this case where the Grandma is an alcoholic and abuses the kids.

In SE Asia age has always, until recently obviously, demanded respect. In the west it's put the old folks in a home so we don't have to be bothered with taking care of them. Here it used to he they were looked after by the family. And I never saw anywhere in the article said she was an alcoholic. She enjoyed a daily drink, like many on this board.

3 hours ago, JoePai said:

You trying to muscle in on the (TAT like) statistic fortune telling...

Unicef did a study back in 2014 and their stats were 32%, and it definitely has increased since then. That is a low estimate.

6 hours ago, gargamon said:

There's just no respect for the elderly any more. It's becoming more and more like the west every day.

 Did you actually read the reasons for it 

6 hours ago, gargamon said:

There's just no respect for the elderly any more. It's becoming more and more like the west every day.

Respect for a lifetime of abuse? Like the west? Any more platitudes to cram into your post?

I read headline and expected to read about a vile 14 year old bullying her grandmother  instead I found myself feeling sorry for the girl who due to horrible circumstances was living a nightmare and sounds like she snapped in protection of her younger brother 

grandma was p_ssed on Lao Kao every day,    then she would start picking on the grandkids.  

did she ever buy them a treat, an ice cream,  a chocolate,   no....   I'm sure she didn't,   that's her Lao Kao money. 

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

In SE Asia age has always, until recently obviously, demanded respect. In the west it's put the old folks in a home so we don't have to be bothered with taking care of them. Here it used to he they were looked after by the family. And I never saw anywhere in the article said she was an alcoholic. She enjoyed a daily drink, like many on this board.

If she would drink so much she'd abuse her granddaughter, alcoholism is absolutely on the table. "Daily drinking habits" is perhaps the most polite way to describe alcoholism, especially those that result in frequent fights with your family. 

This idea that the elders can say whatever they want to their charges and should be given respect despite that, is exactly the kind of mentality that pushes someone to acts like this. If you treat the people you are responsible for like dirt and expect them to take it, then you relinquish the right to act surprised when something bad happens. 

But unfortunately, the entitled in the world think they get to do whatever they want and disrespect whoever they want, and everyone else is responsible for putting up with it. If my grandmother treated my wife with disrespect, at all, I would curse her out and she wouldn't hear from me until she profusely apologized. If my parents disrespected my wife or my children, they would be held accountable for their actions and wouldn't get anything from me until they apologized. 

This notion of "respect your elders" is crap and it's spewed by the bitter old people whose children have long since given up on them, and who lack the reflective capabilities to see that their behavior is what caused their situation. They're narcissists and they're LUCKY they're getting put in a home instead of left on the street. 

Impossible to make any kind of judgement on this story just from a report in the media. 

There is still some respect for age in Thai society. 

Respect does need to be earned and should be a two way thing. 

The only certainty that can be drawn from this report is that it is truly tragic. 

7 hours ago, gargamon said:

There's just no respect for the elderly any more. It's becoming more and more like the west every day.

Respect has to earned, the poor child was put under intolerable pressure by her alcoholic grandmother and lacked the maturity or opportunity to respond or escape, my sympathy is with the girl, the number of stab wounds relates to helplessness, pent up frustration and anger, she needs help, not punishment

8 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

He confirmed that the victim had a history of verbally abusing the children, particularly when intoxicated.

Not any more.... 

None of us choose our parents nor which country we are born into. Cycles of abuse are never hard to diagnose. One wonders what the childhood of the grandmother must have been like. And for those who say that not everyone who is abused turns out to be an abuser, that is an argument that is very easy to demolish - it only take a stroke of good fortune in a time of need for our outcomes to be completely different.... sadly for most, there is no stroke of good luck.

7 hours ago, gargamon said:

There's just no respect for the elderly any more. It's becoming more and more like the west every day.

Respect has to be earn't. It is not a right. Yes, it looks like she was saddled with the kids as is comon here, but it appears she gave them a hard time when she was hit and missed, and the girl snapped. But what do we know? All very sad.

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

In SE Asia age has always, until recently obviously, demanded respect. In the west it's put the old folks in a home so we don't have to be bothered with taking care of them. Here it used to he they were looked after by the family. And I never saw anywhere in the article said she was an alcoholic. She enjoyed a daily drink, like many on this board.

 

From the OP

 

8 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

The grandmother, known for her alcohol abuse, had been verbally abusive toward the girl and her younger brother,

 

As for the "many on this board" who like their "daily drink", do they get drunk and verbally abusive? Or do they just log in and post nonsense?

Good riddance. VERY good riddance and well done. I just hope she doesnt go to jail for doing the right thing.

Some old people think they are gods just because they are old, that younger people need to submit to their BS. 

 

2 hours ago, gargamon said:

In SE Asia age has always, until recently obviously, demanded respect. In the west it's put the old folks in a home so we don't have to be bothered with taking care of them. Here it used to he they were looked after by the family. And I never saw anywhere in the article said she was an alcoholic. She enjoyed a daily drink, like many on this board.

And nowhere in the article did you see anything about the grandmother being put in a home or not being taken care of. It was the opposite and the clear indication she was an abusive alcoholic. Not calling her that is the Thai version of respect or as many would say "saving face" for the p o s she actually was but no one will say it out loud but they will gossip behind closed doors.  

8 hours ago, gargamon said:

There's just no respect for the elderly any more. It's becoming more and more like the west every day.

When a child is verbally abused from a young age for many years, there is at sometime going to be a reaction. This reaction was OTT, but not surprising.

What's up with these youngsters killing the elderly! It's happening globally. I think this is truly the children of the corn generation.

The raising of children is far too often left to grandparents and the outcomes are often to the detriment of the children

19 minutes ago, IndomitableSpirit said:

What's up with these youngsters killing the elderly! It's happening globally. I think this is truly the children of the corn generation.

Grandchild of an abusive alcoholic... It's bad, but if you've been around truly chronic abusers, it's not difficult to understand, at all.
I also don't think children really grasp how deadly stabbing can be and they often are intending to hurt, not kill. For that matter, adults often don't grasp it. Often, it can be heard, why did they shoot him? He was only coming at him with a knife....

A 48 year old grandmother of a 14 year old... do the math. It could be worse, but that's pretty young! It's no surprise the family is as apparently uneducated as they are. And the mother abandoned the child. Seems that this family has been a mess for generations. Very sad.... Hopefully this girl and her brother can learn from this tragedy and break out from the cycle.