Why is the MAGA movement so susceptible to crazy conspiracy theories?

[Inderpland]

MTG, here we go again.

 

Marjorie Taylor Greene Is Now Adding Lasers to Her Hurricane Helene Conspiracy

 

I think the answer to the question is that the MAGA movement is a cult. As such, it's a faith based movement where facts are only used in the few cases where it seems to support whatever narrative they push.

Most of the time facts are just ignored and they just make up s***, like these hairbrained conspiracy theories. Beggars belief.

 

 

[billd766]

2 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

MTG, here we go again.

 

Marjorie Taylor Greene Is Now Adding Lasers to Her Hurricane Helene Conspiracy

 

I think the answer to the question is that the MAGA movement is a cult. As such, it's a faith based movement where facts are only used in the few cases where it seems to support whatever narrative they push.

Most of the time facts are just ignored and they just make up s***, like these hairbrained conspiracy theories. Beggars belief.

 

 

She can't be that stupid as she is a US senator.

 

IMHO the really stupid ones, are the voters who elected her to represent them.

[Inderpland]

13 minutes ago, billd766 said:

She can't be that stupid as she is a US senator.

 

IMHO the really stupid ones, are the voters who elected her to represent them.

I agree with the second sentence but disagree with the first. I really think she is that stupid.

Edited October 8 by Inderpland

[nauseus]

19 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

MTG, here we go again.

 

Marjorie Taylor Greene Is Now Adding Lasers to Her Hurricane Helene Conspiracy

 

I think the answer to the question is that the MAGA movement is a cult. As such, it's a faith based movement where facts are only used in the few cases where it seems to support whatever narrative they push.

Most of the time facts are just ignored and they just make up s***, like these hairbrained conspiracy theories. Beggars belief.

 

 

 

Much ado about not much at all. The Beast has blown up her retweeted 9-year old CBS VDO about rain-making with a false quote alleging  laser control of tropical revolving storms.

[billd766]

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Much ado about not much at all. The Beast has blown up her retweeted 9-year old CBS VDO about rain-making with a false quote alleging  laser control of tropical revolving storms.

Did the Beast actually claim that, or were they quoting MTG?

 

From the link.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-now-adding-133428014.html

 

The Georgia congresswoman, who has a history of blaming deadly disasters on laser-based plots, posted to X a clip from a 2013 CBS News broadcast about experimental efforts to precipitate rain and lightning using lasers. “CBS, 9 years ago, talked about lasers controlling the weather,” Greene wrote, apparently mistaking the year of the broadcast based on text added to the clip.

 

Without mentioning Hurricane Helene specifically, Greene’s post came after she last week posted that it was “ridiculous” for anyone to claim the weather can’t be controlled. She also shared a map showing counties hit by the storm with an overlay of what she said showed the areas’ political affiliation, claiming the graphic “shows how hurricane devastation could affect the election.”

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBzhuPjZUGI

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/186890/marjorie-taylor-greene-hurricane-conspiracy-jewish-lawmakers

 

There are lots more links out there. 

 

[Inderpland]

20 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Much ado about not much at all. The Beast has blown up her retweeted 9-year old CBS VDO about rain-making with a false quote alleging  laser control of tropical revolving storms.

It's not 'nothing at all'. It's a US Congress woman (yes, MTG is a real, honest to god congress woman!!!) spreading falsehoods, misinformation and lies. And words have consequences:

 

MTG’s Dumb Hurricane Conspiracy Takes on Sinister New Twist

 

'Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, Asheville Mayor Esther Manheimer, and FEMA spokesperson Jaclyn Rothenberg have become targets of antisemitic abuse online, only days after Greene boosted an antisemitic smear of her own.
“Yes they can control the weather,” Greene wrote on X Thursday, “it’s ridiculous for anyone to lie and say it can’t be done.” She also seemed to imply that the government had been targeting Republican areas, which Donald Trump has also suggested.'

[nauseus]

9 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Did the Beast actually claim that, or were they quoting MTG?

 

From the link.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-now-adding-133428014.html

 

The Georgia congresswoman, who has a history of blaming deadly disasters on laser-based plots, posted to X a clip from a 2013 CBS News broadcast about experimental efforts to precipitate rain and lightning using lasers. “CBS, 9 years ago, talked about lasers controlling the weather,” Greene wrote, apparently mistaking the year of the broadcast based on text added to the clip.

 

Without mentioning Hurricane Helene specifically, Greene’s post came after she last week posted that it was “ridiculous” for anyone to claim the weather can’t be controlled. She also shared a map showing counties hit by the storm with an overlay of what she said showed the areas’ political affiliation, claiming the graphic “shows how hurricane devastation could affect the election.”

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBzhuPjZUGI

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/186890/marjorie-taylor-greene-hurricane-conspiracy-jewish-lawmakers

 

There are lots more links out there. 

 

 

All weak links, misquoting MTG, then blowing things up way out of proportion - maybe the Beast uses lasers for that?

 

Local weather can be controllable to a certain extent - cloud "seeding" to (induce rain) has been done by the RTAF here for decades.

 

But control of hurricanes?  No. 

[nauseus]

5 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

It's not 'nothing at all'. It's a US Congress woman (yes, MTG is a real, honest to god congress woman!!!) spreading falsehoods, misinformation and lies. And words have consequences:

 

MTG’s Dumb Hurricane Conspiracy Takes on Sinister New Twist

 

'Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, Asheville Mayor Esther Manheimer, and FEMA spokesperson Jaclyn Rothenberg have become targets of antisemitic abuse online, only days after Greene boosted an antisemitic smear of her own.
“Yes they can control the weather,” Greene wrote on X Thursday, “it’s ridiculous for anyone to lie and say it can’t be done.” She also seemed to imply that the government had been targeting Republican areas, which Donald Trump has also suggested.'

 

Another flaky link. What was the antisemitic bit?? 

[johng]

9 minutes ago, nauseus said:

What was the antisemitic bit??

She believes Isreal has space lasers and as such is anti semetic ?

 

 

[Dan O]

16 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

It's not 'nothing at all'. It's a US Congress woman (yes, MTG is a real, honest to god congress woman!!!) spreading falsehoods, misinformation and lies. And words have consequences:

 

MTG’s Dumb Hurricane Conspiracy Takes on Sinister New Twist

 

'Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, Asheville Mayor Esther Manheimer, and FEMA spokesperson Jaclyn Rothenberg have become targets of antisemitic abuse online, only days after Greene boosted an antisemitic smear of her own.
“Yes they can control the weather,” Greene wrote on X Thursday, “it’s ridiculous for anyone to lie and say it can’t be done.” She also seemed to imply that the government had been targeting Republican areas, which Donald Trump has also suggested.'

Sadly on this issue of controlling the weather she's almost partially right but taking info completely out of context. The HARP system in Alaska actually had some experiments where they tried to affect weather for military purposes a few decades ago.  Im not sure how successful they were. I would hazard a guess she heard about those experimental test and is taking it out that context and using it for her own political agenda. 

[Inderpland]

5 minutes ago, johng said:

She believes Isreal has space lasers and as such is anti semetic ?

 

 

he New World Order: The Historical Origins of a Dangerous Modern Conspiracy Theory

[Inderpland]

2 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Sadly on this issue of controlling the weather she's almost partially right but taking info completely out of context. The HARP system in Alaska actually had some experiments where they tried to affect weather for military purposes a few decades ago.  Im not sure how successful they were. I would hazard a guess she heard about those experimental test and is taking it out that context and using it for her own political agenda. 

I fail to see how a few experiments we don't know the outcome of makes her partially right. Unless you mean she's right like a non-working clock being right twice a day.

[BruceWayne]

As Dave Collum said…

“I am a conspiracy theorist. I believe that men and women of wealth and power, conspire. If you don’t think so, you are what is called “an idiot”.

 

 

 

[Dan O]

6 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

I fail to see how a few experiments we don't know the outcome of makes her partially right. Unless you mean she's right like a non-working clock being right twice a day.

Partially right in the context that the govt did try to affect the weather so part of her claim about that is semi accurate but taken completely out of the context it was done in. My post wasn't rocket science. 

[Berkshire]

34 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

All weak links, misquoting MTG, then blowing things up way out of proportion - maybe the Beast uses lasers for that?

 

Local weather can be controllable to a certain extent - cloud "seeding" to (induce rain) has been done by the RTAF here for decades.

 

But control of hurricanes?  No. 

The thing about MTG and her ilk is not just the wild, crazy conspiracy theories.  There is always the element of "they"....meaning the other side is trying to control the weather to harm our side.  For instance, the latest hurricane hitting mostly southern states which are GOP states...of course, being unleashed by "them" being the Democrats.  It's dangerous because there are people stupid enough to believe her. 

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, Inderpland said:

MTG, here we go again.

 

Marjorie Taylor Greene Is Now Adding Lasers to Her Hurricane Helene Conspiracy

 

I think the answer to the question is that the MAGA movement is a cult. As such, it's a faith based movement where facts are only used in the few cases where it seems to support whatever narrative they push.

Most of the time facts are just ignored and they just make up s***, like these hairbrained conspiracy theories. Beggars belief.

 

 

You have to understand the typical maga is a loser. They need excuses for their failure in life, and conspiracies are an easy way to absolve themselves of any responsibility.

 

The felon and people of his ilk have always known about the weaknesses of the forlorn, and they know how to exploit it. They give their cult exactly what the losers want to hear. EVERYTHING is always another's fault, never their own. Give him a chance, and he'll clear the decks and it will be biscuits and gravy into some eternal golden future. The felon himself follows his own rule: nothing bad is ever his fault, and anything good is always to his credit.

 

With a certain segment of birth lottery losers, that is a recipe for success. I don't think he has enough disciples this time to win, as people with marketable skills have done quite well under Biden-Harris. Also, so outlandish are some of the conspiracies becoming, that those in the fever swamp only knee deep are slowly walking out.

[BarraMarra]

just the usual Yank stupidity think something up spread it about and they suck it up and believe it. Why do all the conspiracy theories start from America ??

Edited October 8 by BarraMarra

[mokwit]

3 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

You have to understand the typical maga is a loser.

I thought the Democrats were the party of welfare recipients.

 

The two Trump supporters I know are very well off. One is a retired Doctor with property and stocks worth millions, the other is similar.

[Rob Browder]

1 hour ago, Inderpland said:

Most of the time facts are just ignored

How else COULD it be?  Trump threw everything he promised in 2016 in the garbage-can, as soon as he won the election that year.  The "Russiagate" bit made an effective cover for him, as he trashed it all, and hired ONLY those opposed to everything he had just promised - but, some sort of rationale was needed for why he didn't do anything he promised. 

 

Enter "Q" - where betrayal became "5D-Chess" and "Trust the Plan."   The alternative was for his supporters to admit they had been conned by a liar - a tough pill for many to swallow.  

 

Over time, the "Q" phenomenon was taken to absurd levels - especially given his open-partnership with Bill Gates, praise for Klaus Schwab / WEF, Lindsey Graham, Anti-2nd-Amendment position, pro-Amnesty for illegals position, etc - all diametrically-opposed to everything his supporters thought he "stood for." 

 

The most intriguing aspect, is that many anti-Trump people believe the SAME THINGS about Trump as his supporters - only they oppose those Q-fantasy positions.

[Berkshire]

5 minutes ago, mokwit said:

I thought the Democrats were the party of welfare recipients.

 

The two Trump supporters I know are very well off. One is a retired Doctor with property and stocks worth millions, the other is similar.

It's a mixed bag, of course.  There are lifelong Republicans who may despise Trump, but believe the GOP is about lower taxes which they support.  There are also many, many Democrats who are wealthy.  But Walker is right regarding the true hardcore MAGA base.

Edited October 8 by Berkshire

[mokwit]

7 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

But Walker is right regarding the true hardcore MAGA base.

I'd be a bit more charitable, The world they knew was taken out from under them and they don't really have a gameplan. It is a function of socio economic level irrespective of politics. If you were on welfare all this time your world was not upended.

[Rob Browder]

20 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

You have to understand the typical maga is a loser. They need excuses for their failure in life, and conspiracies are an easy way to absolve themselves of any responsibility.

You have to understand, until fairly recently, anyone willing to show up and work a full-time job had a good life in the USA.  When that ended, many people could not cope. 

 

They voted for Trump, who promised to reverse the GOVERNMENT POLICIES which directly impoverished them - the primary factors being the mass-immigration of people willing to work for MUCH lower wages flooding the labor-pool, and "free" trade which sent their careers overseas - but Trump did the opposite of what he promised.  Combined with his massive deficit spending (continued by Biden) - which caused today's inflation - they are now WORSE off.

 

"But WHY?"  they ask.  And Trump needs them to vote for him, again, to spite stabbing them in the back.  Enter the conspiracies.

Edited October 8 by Rob Browder

[tomazbodner]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

She can't be that stupid as she is a US senator.

 

IMHO the really stupid ones, are the voters who elected her to represent them.

Does that come close to Sarah Palin?

[mokwit]

2 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

You have to understand, until fairly recently, anyone willing to show up and work a full-time job had a good life in the USA.  When that ended, many people could not cope. 

Exactly this. Reversal was beyond anyone's control - it was a promise that couldn't be kept rather than a stab in the back.

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, Inderpland said:

MTG, here we go again.

 

Marjorie Taylor Greene Is Now Adding Lasers to Her Hurricane Helene Conspiracy

 

I think the answer to the question is that the MAGA movement is a cult. As such, it's a faith based movement where facts are only used in the few cases where it seems to support whatever narrative they push.

Most of the time facts are just ignored and they just make up s***, like these hairbrained conspiracy theories. Beggars belief.

 

 

They can't handle the truth and only listen to what the big nutjob has to say.

[Rob Browder]

1 minute ago, mokwit said:

Exactly this. Reversal was beyond anyone's control - it was a promise that couldn't be kept rather than a stab in the back.

On the contrary - "economic globalization" = "policies."  There was nothing "inevitable" about it. 

 

Without any new law from Congress, or breaking any court-precedent:
Trump could have stopped the foreign-worker Visas. 

He could have re-started enforcing the Felony prohibiting employing illegal-alien workers.  

He could have used the "POTUS may ban any alien or class of aliens" law (no "exceptions" to this) to shut-down the "caravan" surge. 

He could have put tariffs on Mexico (he promised 35%) instead of signing another NAFTA. 

He could have recalled American forces from a slew of foreign engagements / bases which do not benefit the American people (saving hundreds of billions in inflationary-spending).  

He could have kept his promise to release anonymized HMO data for analysis of correlations between childhood vaccinations and severe-allergies and autism - proving that one way or the other with solid-data, vs smaller studies and anecdotal evidence.

 

Trump CHOSE, instead, to align himself with those opposed to ALL of that.

[Dan O]

49 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

The thing about MTG and her ilk is not just the wild, crazy conspiracy theories.  There is always the element of "they"....meaning the other side is trying to control the weather to harm our side.  For instance, the latest hurricane hitting mostly southern states which are GOP states...of course, being unleashed by "them" being the Democrats.  It's dangerous because there are people stupid enough to believe her. 

Yes thats the problem with the trump brigade. The take things out of normal context and present them in their own narrative. Yeah the hurricane hit the southern states but news flash thats where they generally have always hit. You cant argue with someone that believes their own lies.

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Inderpland said:

I fail to see how a few experiments we don't know the outcome of makes her partially right. Unless you mean she's right like a non-working clock being right twice a day.

 probably something like this, if you listen just at the end he says 'floods and hurricanes are all subject to manipulation', that was 9 years ago too, how has technology advanced in that time.  

[mokwit]

Just now, Rob Browder said:

On the contrary - "economic globalization" = "policies."  There was nothing "inevitable" about it. 

 

Without any new law from Congress, or breaking any court-precedent:
Trump could have stopped the foreign-worker Visas. 

He could have re-started enforcing the Felony prohibiting employing illegal-alien workers.  

He could have used the "POTUS may ban any alien or class of aliens" law (no "exceptions" to this) to shut-down the "caravan" surge. 

He could have put tariffs on Mexico (he promised 35%) instead of signing another NAFTA. 

He could have recalled American forces from a slew of foreign engagements / bases which do not benefit the American people (saving hundreds of billions in inflationary-spending).  

He could have kept his promise to release anonymized HMO data for analysis of correlations between childhood vaccinations and severe-allergies and autism - proving that one way or the other with solid-data, vs smaller studies and anecdotal evidence.

 

Trump CHOSE, instead, to align himself with those opposed to ALL of that.

Did Biden do any of this?

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, Inderpland said:

MTG, here we go again.

 

Marjorie Taylor Greene Is Now Adding Lasers to Her Hurricane Helene Conspiracy

 

I think the answer to the question is that the MAGA movement is a cult. As such, it's a faith based movement where facts are only used in the few cases where it seems to support whatever narrative they push.

Most of the time facts are just ignored and they just make up s***, like these hairbrained conspiracy theories. Beggars belief.

 

 

yawn! there is already a conspiracy thread that isnt going too well for your side, but you can lose on this one too i guess.

if you got out of the MSM bubble and did a bit of searching online you can find many things, but you and the gullible posse just believe any and everything you're told. i just posted a clips regarding 'laser' to control weather, i'll admit i sounds ridiculous, but the video shows otherwise, and its from CBS, a left leaning anti Trump page.  you can also read these patents. not saying the hurricane was man made, but to say the weather cannot be controlled is very naive!

i know it wont change your mind even if you read it..... and you got the cheek to call Trumps and right brain washed!

 

 

 

Edited October 8 by frank83628
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