Just now, Mike_Hunt said:

There should be cuts at the federal level.   The US is running a yearly deficit of 2 trillion dollars.   The state and local governments need to raise taxes to cover these needs. 

 

But lets give federal tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires instead...

Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

But lets give federal tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires instead...

This is such a dumb argument.    How much does a billionaire make in income?  

1 hour ago, johng said:

 

Fix it for Americans first and then if possible for others..but America first  that is what he was elected to do  seems he is mostly

(with qualification about some bits)  doing what he said he would do.

Trump doesn't want to fix anything. He wants to steal the money for his billionaire buddies.

 

1 hour ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Trump doesn't want to fix anything. He wants to steal the money for his billionaire buddies.

 

OMG...this is such a dumb leftie narrative. 

20 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

OMG...this is such a dumb leftie narrative. 

Look at what he does, not what he says.

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Very bad things.

But do the maga fascists or Trump care?

No. They LIKE it. With maga cruelty is the point.

WTF, so no other countries are chipping in?

I am 100% sure the US tax payer didn't know about this amount of foreign aid, especially when there is a domestic  homeless crisis, homeless vets, mental health issues.... but give 12b away.

 

Maga cruelty.... get real, man up

2 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Trump doesn't want to fix anything. He wants to steal the money for his billionaire buddies.

 

What worse, it Seems Biden was giving it all to africa for nothing. 

Look at all the radical leftists jumping to defend giving 12b in tax payer money to foreign aid, how much of that goes to NGOs and top brass salaries before any aid actually reaches the people, 5%??.... but but Trump

 

 

5 hours ago, flexomike said:

 

Triggered much?

 

 

35 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

It is the truth, ignored by ignorant MAGAts.

 

How much does a millionaire or a billionaire make in income?    Do you know many people who are retired and are "millionaires"?

1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

How much does a millionaire or a billionaire make in income?    Do you know many people who are retired and are "millionaires"?

Typical MAGA deflection 

1 minute ago, still kicking said:

Typical MAGA deflection 

How is this deflection? 

Good, these funds can now be spent to improve the lives of the US taxpayers.

13 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Good, these funds can now be spent to improve the lives of the US taxpayers.

 

Use other means to improve the lives of the US tax payers...   for the US ending global health funding potentially has a harsh impact on the US tax payer... 

 

If the US cuts global health funding, those in the USA will feel the impact too, there are numerous facets to this.. 

 

The 'per-capita' amount of the US pays is higher than other nations.

On a per-capita basis the US pays 2x the UK, 5x the EU, and 35x China...  IMO the US would do better to lobby other nations to pay more... simply not paying could have issues... such as... 

 

 

Higher Risk of Imported Infectious Diseases

Without strong disease surveillance and containment abroad, diseases can spread internationally before detection.

Think Ebola, Zika, or new flu strains—they don’t need a passport. Planes make the world small, and what festers in one region today can be in US emergency rooms tomorrow.

 

Elevated Ebola & Other Outbreak Risks

The US currently helps fund early detection, lab networks, and response teams in Africa and Asia.

Cut that, and you risk late detection and delayed response to outbreaks like:

Ebola in West or Central Africa

Marburg virus, a cousin of Ebola

Lassa fever, Nipah virus, or avian flu

If these aren't caught early, they can hop borders and oceans, especially if outbreak zones also lose infrastructure due to the funding pullback.

 

Strained US Public Health System

If an outbreak spreads to the US, hospitals, testing labs, and health departments could quickly be overwhelmed, as seen in COVID’s early days.

Diseases like drug-resistant TB or even measles can spread in under-vaccinated communities—and once they’re here, they’re expensive to treat and contain.

 

Skyrocketing Costs at Home

Preventing outbreaks abroad is orders of magnitude cheaper than managing epidemics domestically.

Ebola in the US (2014) cost millions for just a handful of cases.

COVID, of course, wrecked trillions in economic loss and health burden.

Pulling global health funding is like sacking your home’s fire department to save money, then praying no one lights a match.

 

Increased Risk of Dangerous Mutations

With less global vaccination and treatment, viruses and bacteria get more chances to mutate.

That means:

More drug-resistant TB

New COVID variants

Superbugs that antibiotics can’t touch

These could make their way into the US and render current medicines useless.

 

 

 

In summary:

Slashing global health funding doesn’t just hurt "over there" - it leaves America open to new pandemics, exotic diseases, and spiralling healthcare costs. The frontline isn’t just the US border - it’s every health outpost overseas that stops the next outbreak from becoming our the crisis - this is as equally important to all nations as it is the USA...  

...  All nations, at least developed nations should be paying into this with a per-capita equality.

 

 

 

23 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

It's U.S. citizens who are being sickened and in some cases dying from measles right now while the Trump Administration fiddles, cuts DOMESTIC health funding, and appoints a bunch of anti-vaxers to senior federal health jobs:

 

"Last month, H.H.S. moved to cut billions of dollars allocated to local health departments. (A judge temporarily blocked the funding cuts after a coalition of states sued the Trump administration.)

 

And layoffs at the C.D.C. eliminated entire divisions of the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, who had been helping states ensure that their hospitals were equipped to treat patients with an airborne respiratory disease.

 

The response has also been hamstrung by muddled messaging from the country’s top health official, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has downplayed vaccinations and the seriousness of measles infections while promoting unproven treatments, like cod liver oil."

 

New York Times
https://archive.ph/txXD0

 

 

BS

23 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

US pulls back $12 billion in funding to state health departments

March 27, 20257:21 AM GMT+7

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-government-pulls-back-over-11-billion-funding-state-health-departments-2025-03-26/

 

 

And in "measlesland"....

Federal public health cuts could cost Texas $700 million

State and local health agencies are having to cut programs and staff to make up the loss and more cuts could be coming.

April 9, 2025

 

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/04/09/texas-public-health-federal-funding-cuts-pandemic/

 

 

Trump clawed back billions in federal health grants. Here’s how much California is losing

California may lose more than $1 billion in public health and mental health funding as a result of new federal budget cuts that target COVID-19 pandemic response grants, according to the U.S. Department of Government Efficiency website.

 

March 27, 2025

 

https://calmatters.org/health/2025/03/trump-budget-cuts-health-grants/

 

Wow, great news, thanks!

On 4/24/2025 at 7:11 PM, rattlesnake said:

Good, these funds can now be spent to improve the lives of the US taxpayers.

Or reducing federal taxes. Time for the States to step up. Why should all be down to the federal government to fix everything? California now has the 4th biggest economy in the world.....

26 minutes ago, Scott Tracy said:

Or reducing federal taxes. Time for the States to step up. Why should all be down to the federal government to fix everything? California now has the 4th biggest economy in the world.....

Agree, and not sure I think the fed should finance states at all.  Though I'm sure I'm missing the big picture.   But if 'you' choose to live in said state, then 'you pay' state tax to maintain the level of comfort 'you' are willing to pay, that you deserve.

 

I don't live there, why should I subsidize your comfort.  Same with the fed, especially if it means going into debt.  I expect the fed to provide protection, of the USA, not the whole planet, that is all.

 

The rest should be a free market, supply & demand.  You want it, 'you' pay for it.

On 4/24/2025 at 11:36 PM, Mike_Hunt said:

Again..it's a dumb narrative repeated by dumb lefties. 

Deeds not words pretzel boy

48 minutes ago, Scott Tracy said:

Or reducing federal taxes. Time for the States to step up. Why should all be down to the federal government to fix everything? California now has the 4th biggest economy in the world.....

And contribute the most to the feds mostly to prop up failing red states

Sorry world, the US credit card is maxed out. Time to take care of yourselves.

Shroud waving, too many people anyway and the USA is not the worlds social services

21 minutes ago, Tug said:

And contribute the most to the feds mostly to prop up failing red states

Texas is failing? The Carolinas? Florida?

 

You live a lie.

So Trump may be even worse than Hitler and Stalin....Yeah, I hope the "Yankees" will be proud of that.

8 hours ago, Tug said:

And contribute the most to the feds mostly to prop up failing red states

This is another BS narrative.

7 hours ago, harryviking said:

So Trump may be even worse than Hitler and Stalin....Yeah, I hope the "Yankees" will be proud of that.

Let me know when he invades France.

8 hours ago, Tug said:

Deeds not words pretzel boy

You are to dumb to understand the federal budget.

On 4/24/2025 at 6:44 PM, Jingthing said:

Decent non maga cult Americans are ashamed, embarrassed, and horrified by the Trump regime.

 

No...    we are not !  

care to share copies of the receipts for "you're donations" ?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSPHPROJw26Yo7QQySOFdkTd-htxAnMkUs6mlByy9DJRW2NvSsX_4UjiD6loxnGYZXCEPw&usqp=CAU

 

On 4/24/2025 at 11:24 PM, frank83628 said:

Look at all the radical leftists jumping to defend giving 12b in tax payer money to foreign aid, how much of that goes to NGOs and top brass salaries before any aid actually reaches the people, 5%??.... but but Trump

 

 

 

Bingo !!!

On 4/25/2025 at 2:11 AM, rattlesnake said:

Good, these funds can now be spent to improve the lives of the US taxpayers.

 

 

Agreed.  25 million deaths over 15 years. That's basically a rounding error in the projections.

 

News flash.  We could save 25 million people in one year if we spent all our money on saving people in other countries. But we're broke.  In debt to the tune of $35 trillion.  A lot of that debt being from do-gooding around the word.   

 

But my question is why the US is being singled out?  If more money would save more people, why isn't every country spending more?  Why is it that the American taxpayer is to blame?