This is very simple. No one vacations in or retires in India. There's a very good reason for this too.

 

People do vacation and retire in Thailand, lots of people.

 

So what do you think happens when half of Pattaya is suddenly Indian?  People have made their preference clear and isn't Indians.

53 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Maybe try to get your facts straight before making a fool of yourself. This is only the last 10 years.

 

Here are rough approximate ranges of the yearly average exchange rate of 1 USD to Thai Baht (THB) from 2007 to 2025, based on available monthly and annual data:

 

• 2007: ~ 30–31 THB per USD
• 2008: ~ 33–35 THB per USD
• 2009: ~ 34–35 THB per USD
• 2010: ~ 30 THB per USD
• 2011: ~ 30–31 THB per USD
• 2012: ~ 31–32 THB per USD
• 2013: ~ 32 THB per USD (rough)
• 2014: ~ 32–33 THB per USD
• 2015: ~ 34–36 THB per USD
• 2016: (data less clear) roughly in the low‑30s THB per USD
• 2017: ~ 32–34 THB per USD
• 2018: ~ 31–33 THB per USD
• 2019‑2020: ~ 31 THB per USD (2020 ~31.3 THB)
• 2021: ~ 32 THB per USD
• 2022: ~ 35 THB per USD
• 2023: ~ 34–35 THB per USD
• 2024: ~ 35 THB per USD
• 2025: So far in 2025 the average is ~ 33 THB per USD (data partial)

 

 

So in summary:

Typical range over that period has been **~ 30 to ~ 36 THB per 1 USD**.
 

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who is the fool now?

Pattaya -- the chamelion city.

 

 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Pattaya -- the chamelion city.

Nothing wrong with Pattaya, I have been there many times.

9 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

who is the fool now?

 

Obviously you, unless you want to claim that you know better than XE

 

8 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Nothing wrong with Pattaya, I have been there many times.

Nothing wrong with chamelions either especially for politicians.

8 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Obviously you, unless you want to claim that you know better than XE

 

You refer to several short-term rate spikes and seem to think that this somehow disproves my initial claim. Clearly, it does not.

6 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

You refer to several short-term rate spikes and seem to think that this somehow disproves my initial claim. Clearly, it does not.

 

Well, you claimed in the last 20 years, then reduced it to 18 years, and even made more false claim to make you boat float.

 

You call this short term peaks?

 

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/bank-of-england-spot/historical-spot-exchange-rates/gbp/USD-to-THB-2005

 

6 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

It's changing because the younger generation are not into paying for sex and also the party scene is much different expectations now 

 

It's a generational change 

 

The younger generation are not participating in sex at all, period (full-stop, for the Pommes). The blokes are too busy in their Mum's basement playing video games, and the self-entitled girls (including the fat ones) are all doing Only Fans and consequently wonder why they (including the skinny ones) aren't Marriage Material for conservative minded hard-working males that want a family.

 

Hence the imminent Western birth rate of zero dot far call percent.

 

On a positive note, the client base in Walking Street tonight was significantly more Caucasian than the last six months, but with a ratio 15 (or more) girls to one customer, it doesn't bode well for the late 2025 rice crop cashflow. 

 

 

5 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

t looks like Stickman is retiring at the end of this year. No more weekly columns.

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Stickman seems to retire regularly on an annual base.

 

 

Was anyone surprised that Sodom and Gomorrah received their fate?

3 hours ago, In Full Agreement said:

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Stickman seems to retire regularly on an annual base.

 

 

I thought he sold that forum years ago and went back to NZ/?

 

I remember way back walking into a gogo bar in front of me were a couple of indian chaps and the girl at the front told them to go home and have a shower i guess times have changed money is money no matter where it comes from

12 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

It's changing because the younger generation are not into paying for sex and also the party scene is much different expectations now 

 

It's a generational change 

I do not think this is the reason. I think the GenZ that go there would pay if the prices were reasonable. But the costs exceed that of paying for a woman the same in a city like Los Vegas. 100 bucks or more for a girl then another 50 or more for the bar fine. Then also, the women do not give the GF experience they used to. For many it is a strictly financial transaction with no feeling at all. 

I do not think the demographics are what is changing Pattaya or the tourist base arriving there. It has more to do with the Thai attitude and the violence in the news there as well os the cost to be there. Only the hotels are reasonable now with their rates. 

12 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

Well, when you go down a Pattaya beach somewhere and you see this or them cooking and sleeping on the beach to avoid hotel room costs... well, hardly surprising people are giving it a miss. And that's before 10 of them want to tag-team a bar girl for a shared 1000 baht, haha... the Thais are probably getting annoyed with it to.

 

 

 

I don't understand what you find so offensive about this picture? Just looks like a bunch of dude playing in the sea to me...

12 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

It's changing because the younger generation are not into paying for sex and also the party scene is much different expectations now 

 

It's a generational change 

Or they can't afford it you mean!

12 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

You been racist long ?

What do you prefer? ...drunken Aussie bogans with singlets yahoooing and looking for a fight ?

Look at them the wrong way and they are spoiling for a fight 

 

I will take the Indians any day over Aussie louts and bogans      

There are some very nice Aussies in Isaan.

What's a singlet.

Lower social class Indians are terrible sex tourists. Thats the bottom line.

 

I only get to see them in Bangkok. They act and smell like trash.

 

Im not going to denigrate all Indians as Americans of Indian descent are one of the backbones of our country. But they are Americans and know how to act and behave. 

 

When you put folks whose first experience of a toilet in a room is in a cheap hotel in Thailand, who dont know what a pair of socks are, who showers once a month and is 35 and never got laid...well....

 

PS how many here think it is declassee to jump into a public pool in your underwear without showering?

29 minutes ago, carlyai said:

What's a singlet

Unbelievable 

12 hours ago, mordothailand said:

it is strong against the swedish krona, and that is all that matters

Krona, that's a drink, oh hang on that was Corona

13 hours ago, mordothailand said:

it is strong against the swedish krona, and that is all that matters

And the UK pound.  As a long term ex-pat, this massively affects my weekly spend.

15 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

I did a few days in Pattaya two weeks ago. Spent one night doing Walking Street.

What else "did" you?

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Lower social class Indians are terrible sex tourists. Thats the bottom line.

But you defend the Israelis who are causing way more problems with the non sec tourists and Thais. 
 

But nice you care so much for the prostitutes

11 hours ago, Hellfire said:

Here are rough approximate ranges of the yearly average exchange rate . . . .

 

Hardly the same as your initial claim which was:

 

Quote

The Thai baht has been moving in the range of 31–35 per U.S. dollar for the last twenty years

 

Written as fact with nothing rough, approximate or averaged about it, but good effort all the same.

4 hours ago, thesetat said:

I do not think the demographics are what is changing Pattaya or the tourist base arriving there. It has more to do with the Thai attitude and the violence in the news there as well os the cost to be there. Only the hotels are reasonable now with their rates. 

 

I tend to think that it's that interweb thing.  Before the interweb, if you wanted to be shocked and amazed, you had to show up in person.  Nowadays, you can be shocked and amazed while never leaving your basement. 

 

And no matter how good Pattaya may (or may not) be, there's always some influencer making somewhere else look better.  Even if that takes hours of video editing.

 

12 hours ago, Hellfire said:

Here are rough approximate ranges of the yearly average exchange rate of 1 USD to Thai Baht (THB) from 2007 to 2025, based on available monthly and annual data:

 

• 2007: ~ 30–31 THB per USD
• 2008: ~ 33–35 THB per USD
• 2009: ~ 34–35 THB per USD
• 2010: ~ 30 THB per USD
• 2011: ~ 30–31 THB per USD
• 2012: ~ 31–32 THB per USD
• 2013: ~ 32 THB per USD (rough)
• 2014: ~ 32–33 THB per USD
• 2015: ~ 34–36 THB per USD
• 2016: (data less clear) roughly in the low‑30s THB per USD
• 2017: ~ 32–34 THB per USD
• 2018: ~ 31–33 THB per USD
• 2019‑2020: ~ 31 THB per USD (2020 ~31.3 THB)
• 2021: ~ 32 THB per USD
• 2022: ~ 35 THB per USD
• 2023: ~ 34–35 THB per USD
• 2024: ~ 35 THB per USD
• 2025: So far in 2025 the average is ~ 33 THB per USD (data partial)

 

 

So in summary:

Typical range over that period has been **~ 30 to ~ 36 THB per 1 USD**.
 

——

 

who is the fool now?

I moved here in 2001... exchange rate was stable around 40 baht to the buck.

100 baht was $2.50, not around $3.00 now (numbers from countryeconomy.com)

01/19/2001	40.5460	-0.58%
01/18/2001	40.7823	0.69%
01/17/2001	40.5015	-0.68%
01/16/2001	40.7803	-0.57%
01/15/2001	41.0137	-1.23%
01/12/2001	41.5236	0.52%
01/11/2001	41.3089	1.58%

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

But they are Americans and know how to act and behave. 

Funniest thing I have read this morning 

18 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

You been racist long ?

What do you prefer? ...drunken Aussie bogans with singlets yahoooing and looking for a fight ?

Look at them the wrong way and they are spoiling for a fight 

 

I will take the Indians any day over Aussie louts and bogans      

You're welcome. Count me out.

18 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

You been racist long ?

What do you prefer? ...drunken Aussie bogans with singlets yahoooing and looking for a fight ?

Look at them the wrong way and they are spoiling for a fight 

 

I will take the Indians any day over Aussie louts and bogans      

Ha ha ha  pot belly calling the kettle black ...you sound like the rascist one ...

18 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

It's changing because the younger generation are not into paying for sex and also the party scene is much different expectations now 

 

It's a generational change 

no younger generation ever ever payed for sex, ay least i didnt till i was 12 !