THE England thread

[smokie36]

1 minute ago, 3 minus 2 said:

yeah with todays disciplined approach  'box to box' days are well gone  but he does nice little  runs and then he distributes well its the other parts i said that will 'cement' his place  for eg atm dier offers more ggoal threat than winks, and that CANT b right

 

Its not right I agree.....with two yound def mids though one can get forward at times for sure if they both have pace....remains to be seen if that will be Winks or Skippy or a mix of both ideally!

[BangrakBob]

So Jordan Henderson has only just returned for Liverpool, why the <deleted> is he even anywhere near this England squad? Well now, he's not anywhere near it because he has been <deleted> injured while on England duty. Every <deleted> International break our players get injured.

[smokie36]

1 hour ago, BangrakBob said:

So Jordan Henderson has only just returned for Liverpool, why the <deleted> is he even anywhere near this England squad? Well now, he's not anywhere near it because he has been <deleted> injured while on England duty. Every <deleted> International break our players get injured.

 

Southgate hasn't yet worked out how to keep the clubs happy.

 

Winks and Alli on the bench raised a big grin from me however.

 

Poor finishing in the first half.....not bad not bad but I expect Croatia to up their tempo second half and bury you 2-0.

[smokie36]

Wooo Hoooo all of my Pickeringic family just leaped from their chairs!!

[smokie36]

England score but still face relegation from the group!

 

Ohh the tension. 

[smokie36]

Oh Gawd the only player on the field I can't have a pop at for scoring. 

[BangrakBob]

3 hours ago, RonniePickering22 said:

 

Southgate hasn't yet worked out how to keep the clubs happy.

 

Winks and Alli on the bench raised a big grin from me however.

 

Poor finishing in the first half.....not bad not bad but I expect Croatia to up their tempo second half and bury you 2-0.

Lack of creativity when needing it, set pieces were rubbish for the most part. 

Lingard and Sancho added that spark when they came on though. 

To be fair Croatia WC finalists, and a decent side, so well done England. 

 

[smokie36]

12 minutes ago, BangrakBob said:

Lack of creativity when needing it, set pieces were rubbish for the most part. 

Lingard and Sancho added that spark when they came on though. 

To be fair Croatia WC finalists, and a decent side, so well done England. 

 

 

England held possession well but as you say they need that something extra....perhaps Sancho, Trips or Alli will provide it eventually.

 

Lingard just no really.

[smokie36]

I still don't understand the playoff rules....is it lower sides play each other or just a free for all next year?

[BangrakBob]

14 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said:

I still don't understand the playoff rules....is it lower sides play each other or just a free for all next year?

All I know is that's it for International football until March, which is nice. 

[3 minus 2]

ronnie ,, google it   wiki reckons

 

According to the approved format (prior to Kosovo becoming a UEFA member),^[1][7][8] the now 55 UEFA national teams (including Kosovo) are divided into four divisions (called "Leagues"):^[9][10] 12 teams in League A, 12 teams in League B, 15 teams in League C, and 16 teams in League D. In each league, four groups are formed (three or four teams in each group) and teams play each other both home and away.

In the top league, League A, the winners of the four groups go on to play in the Nations League Finals, with two semi finals, one third and fourth place decider, and one final to decide which team becomes the UEFA Nations League champion.

Teams can also be promoted and relegated to a higher or lower league. Each group winner (there are four groups in each league) except for League A, who will go on to play in the Nations League Finals, is automatically promoted to the next higher league for the next tournament. Each team placing last in its group, except for League D is automatically relegated to the next lower league.

[3 minus 2]

1 hour ago, BangrakBob said:

Lack of creativity when needing it, set pieces were rubbish for the most part. 

Lingard and Sancho added that spark when they came on though. 

To be fair Croatia WC finalists, and a decent side, so well done England. 

 

yeah didnt think walker played badly ,, but same old same old  delivery into the box is just poor, our bacs didnt make influence the game enuf and thought berkey boys  influence was poor  southgate changed the game with his subs ,, HE'S GOOD,, and gettin better ,, HIS squad ,,, will take time  but i honestly reckon were in bloody good hands  FOR ONCE

[smokie36]

1 hour ago, 3 minus 2 said:

ronnie ,, google it   wiki reckons

 

According to the approved format (prior to Kosovo becoming a UEFA member),^[1][7][8] the now 55 UEFA national teams (including Kosovo) are divided into four divisions (called "Leagues"):^[9][10] 12 teams in League A, 12 teams in League B, 15 teams in League C, and 16 teams in League D. In each league, four groups are formed (three or four teams in each group) and teams play each other both home and away.

In the top league, League A, the winners of the four groups go on to play in the Nations League Finals, with two semi finals, one third and fourth place decider, and one final to decide which team becomes the UEFA Nations League champion.

Teams can also be promoted and relegated to a higher or lower league. Each group winner (there are four groups in each league) except for League A, who will go on to play in the Nations League Finals, is automatically promoted to the next higher league for the next tournament. Each team placing last in its group, except for League D is automatically relegated to the next lower league.

 

That is a junk copy and paste which did nothing to answer my question.

 

Yes I have googled!!!!!

[wilai]

4 hours ago, RonniePickering22 said:

I still don't understand the playoff rules....is it lower sides play each other or just a free for all next year?

Firstly. Scotland will play the normal Euro qualifiers (groups to be drawn on 2nd December), Matches start in March 2019. If they qualify through this method there is no need for them to be in the play-offs.

 

If they fail to qualify via the normal route, but have finished top of the Nations Group by beating Israel, then they get a second chance to qualify thru' the play-offs, the draw for those being made in November 2019. The sixteen winners of the Nations groups will take part....if they have not already qualified trough the normal qualifying comp, in which case they are replaced by the group runners up. Four places are available. One to each group A,B,C,D of the Nations League.

 

If Israel come top of the group then Scotland don't get the second chance, unless Israel themselves qualify as above, in which case Scotland, if they finish Nations Group runners up, will have the second chance in the play offs.

 

Scotland will play Finland or Serbia (probably) or Bulgaria/Norway in the play off semi-finals. Then the two winners meet to decide who gets the 1 place awarded to the winners from Group C in the Nations League. Games will be played in March 2020.

 

Bloody convoluted stuff!

[jellydog]

43 minutes ago, wilai said:

Firstly. Scotland will play the normal Euro qualifiers (groups to be drawn on 2nd December), Matches start in March 2019. If they qualify through this method there is no need for them to be in the play-offs.

 

If they fail to qualify via the normal route, but have finished top of the Nations Group by beating Israel, then they get a second chance to qualify thru' the play-offs, the draw for those being made in November 2019. The sixteen winners of the Nations groups will take part....if they have not already qualified trough the normal qualifying comp, in which case they are replaced by the group runners up. Four places are available. One to each group A,B,C,D of the Nations League.

 

If Israel come top of the group then Scotland don't get the second chance, unless Israel themselves qualify as above, in which case Scotland, if they finish Nations Group runners up, will have the second chance in the play offs.

 

Scotland will play Finland or Serbia (probably) or Bulgaria/Norway in the play off semi-finals. Then the two winners meet to decide who gets the 1 place awarded to the winners from Group C in the Nations League. Games will be played in March 2020.

 

Bloody convoluted stuff!

I remember courses in trigonometry that were easier than that.

[owl sees all]

49 minutes ago, wilai said:

Firstly. Scotland will play the normal Euro qualifiers (groups to be drawn on 2nd December), Matches start in March 2019. If they qualify through this method there is no need for them to be in the play-offs.

 

If they fail to qualify via the normal route, but have finished top of the Nations Group by beating Israel, then they get a second chance to qualify thru' the play-offs, the draw for those being made in November 2019. The sixteen winners of the Nations groups will take part....if they have not already qualified trough the normal qualifying comp, in which case they are replaced by the group runners up. Four places are available. One to each group A,B,C,D of the Nations League.

 

If Israel come top of the group then Scotland don't get the second chance, unless Israel themselves qualify as above, in which case Scotland, if they finish Nations Group runners up, will have the second chance in the play offs.

 

Scotland will play Finland or Serbia (probably) or Bulgaria/Norway in the play off semi-finals. Then the two winners meet to decide who gets the 1 place awarded to the winners from Group C in the Nations League. Games will be played in March 2020.

 

Bloody convoluted stuff!

Seems just like the tennis ATP finals to me. It'll all sort itself out next year.

 

BUT!!! Will it ever rival the World cup and Euros in importance? Can't see it myself. Maybe others think so.

[3 minus 2]

6 hours ago, RonniePickering22 said:

 

That is a junk copy and paste which did nothing to answer my question.

 

Yes I have googled!!!!!

  ronnie,; 'thanks  for taking the trouble to attempt to help 3 minus 2 ,, however  i've 

 

  found '  ect ect ect

 

3 minus 2 ;  'no probs ronnie, just like the last time u asked  ALWAYS hapi to help  

 

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[BangrakBob]

7 hours ago, 3 minus 2 said:

yeah didnt think walker played badly ,, but same old same old  delivery into the box is just poor, our bacs didnt make influence the game enuf and thought berkey boys  influence was poor  southgate changed the game with his subs ,, HE'S GOOD,, and gettin better ,, HIS squad ,,, will take time  but i honestly reckon were in bloody good hands  FOR ONCE

Totally agree with all of that, except the more I watch Walker play he doesn’t appear that good. Gave the ball away a few times last night.

 

[smokie36]

24 minutes ago, 3 minus 2 said:

  ronnie,; 'thanks  for taking the trouble to attempt to help 3 minus 2 ,, however  i've 

 

  found '  ect ect ect

 

3 minus 2 ;  'no probs ronnie, just like the last time u asked  ALWAYS hapi to help  

 

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Come off it 3-2 you know I don't like feeding the prisoners. 

[jellydog]

Looks like England have a squad and manager to be reckoned with. That doesn't mean its COMING HOME, but a decent squad.

[smokie36]

7 minutes ago, jellydog said:

Looks like England have a squad and manager to be reckoned with. That doesn't mean its COMING HOME, but a decent squad.

 

Get off the fence Jellybean....are they going to win it or not?

 

Oh and what is the prize for winning it anyway?

[wilai]

42 minutes ago, jellydog said:

Looks like England have a squad and manager to be reckoned with. That doesn't mean its COMING HOME, but a decent squad.

Hasn't been anywhere yet

[mommysboy]

Just wait 'til they play decent teams....er,no, hang on a minute????

[Bredbury Blue]

 

4 hours ago, 3 minus 2 said:

  ronnie,; 'thanks  for taking the trouble to attempt to help 3 minus 2 ,, however  i've 

 

  found '  ect ect ect

 

3 minus 2 ;  'no probs ronnie, just like the last time u asked  ALWAYS hapi to help  

 

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Psss...Ronnie...maybe you could reciprocate 3minus2's kindness by pointing out to him that spellcheckers exist these days

[Bredbury Blue]

4 hours ago, BangrakBob said:

Totally agree with all of that, except the more I watch Walker play he doesn’t appear that good. Gave the ball away a few times last night.

 

Wouldn't be an engerland game would it without a hatchet job on walker, stones or sterling ????

[champers]

Dem Span yards must be suffering back home. Dumped out by England!!! 

Porto and Guimaeres are the venues. I stayed in Porto when Bolton played Guimaeres a few years back. 2 great places: Porto with the Port warehouses on the river (Sandeman, Cockburn, etc) and the old part of Guimaeres is a World Heritage site.

Up the whites!

[Kadilo]

Funny old game. 

On the radio they were discussing at what point Kane should be substituted and half hour later he’s a hero. 

 

[3 minus 2]

5 hours ago, BangrakBob said:

Totally agree with all of that, except the more I watch Walker play he doesn’t appear that good. Gave the ball away a few times last night.

 

yeah i was being kind to walker , he AINT that good  well known in the tottenham thread  i was pleased to see the bac of him and at 50 mil,,  his pace and athletisism are AMAZIN and in a bac  3 him as the 'last man' works cos of his pace but EVERYTHING ELSE he's  average..if not poor  

edit ,, big disapointment of the summer not no transfers in but  MAN UTD NOT buying danny rose, like walker HE's borderline a liablity as was walker with us

[BangrakBob]

1 minute ago, 3 minus 2 said:

yeah i was being kind to walker , he AINT that good  well known in the tottenham thread  i was pleased to see the bac of him and at 50 mil,,  his pace and athletisism are AMAZIN and in a bac  3 him as the 'last man' works cos of his pace but EVERYTHING ELSE he's  average..if not poor  

 

It does appear that was a great deal for Spurs and yeah that's the same Walker I've been observing while watching City and England of late.

[3 minus 2]

2 minutes ago, BangrakBob said:

It does appear that was a great deal for Spurs and yeah that's the same Walker I've been observing while watching City and England of late.

i was boring the <deleted> out of everyone for the best part of a season about walker; every match he was terrifying defenses with these amazing runs , but then TOTALLY failing to deliver a decent ball, it was un frigging believable, his positioning was AWFUL and his distribution not much better,