'That's real:' Fauci rejects Trump claim that U.S. coronavirus deaths overcounted

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'That's real:' Fauci rejects Trump claim that U.S. coronavirus deaths overcounted

By Jonathan Landay

 

FILE PHOTO: Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, speaks at an event where U.S. Vice President Mike Pence received the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) vaccine at the White House in Washington, U.S., December 18, 2020. REUTERS/Cheriss May/File Photo

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two top U.S. health officials on Sunday disputed a claim by President Donald Trump that federal data on COVID-19 cases and deaths in the United States is overblown, and both expressed optimism that the pace of vaccinations is picking up.

 

"The deaths are real deaths," Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on ABC News’ This Week, adding that jam-packed hospitals and stressed-out healthcare workers are "not fake. That’s real.”

 

Fauci and U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams, who appeared on CNN’s State of the Union, defended the accuracy of coronavirus data published by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention after Trump attacked the agency’s tabulation methods.

 

“The number of cases and deaths of the China Virus is far exaggerated in the United States because of the @CDCgov’s ridiculous method of determination compared to other countries, many of whom report, purposely, very inaccurately and low,” Trump wrote on Twitter.

 

Trump, a Republican who leaves office on Jan. 20 after losing a bid for a second term to Democrat Joe Biden, has frequently has downplayed the severity of the pandemic. He has also scorned and ignored federal recommendations for containing the spread.

 

Two top U.S. health officials on Sunday disputed a claim by President Donald Trump that federal data on COVID-19 cases and deaths in the United States is overblown, and both expressed optimism that the pace of vaccinations is picking up. Gavino Garay reports.

 

More than 20 million people have been infected in the United States and nearly 347,000 have died – or one out of every 950 U.S. residents - since the virus first emerged in China in late 2019, according to the CDC.

 

“From a public health perspective, I have no reason to doubt those numbers and I think people need to be very aware that it’s not just about the deaths,” Adams said. “It’s about the hospitalizations, the capacity.”

 

Fauci and Adams expressed optimism that the pace of vaccinating Americans against the virus is accelerating after a slow start. More than 4.2 million people have been inoculated since Dec. 14 with one of two vaccines, far short of the Trump administration’s goal of 20 million by the end of 2020.

 

“We wanted to get to 20 million, but some glimmer of hope is that in the last 72 hours, they’ve gotten 1.2 million doses into peoples’ arms, which is an average of about 500,000 a day,” Fauci said. “We are not where we want to be. There’s no doubt about that. But I think we can get there.”

 

He said he believed that the number of daily vaccinations could be expanded to 1 million and called for "a real partnership" between the federal and state governments.

 

(Additional reporting by David Morgan; Editing by Scott Malone and Aurora Ellis)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2021-01-04

 

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[Jeffr2]

He should be jailed for lying to the public and putting their lives at risk.

[Tug]

34 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

He should be jailed for lying to the public and putting their lives at risk.

Or jailed for criminal incompetence in handeling the response + endangering others by his actions imo the covid deaths are probably undercounted a truly epic failure of a president imo

[Scott]

A trolling misrepresentation of the President's name has been reported and removed.  

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According to Trump's way of thinking, the creation of the vaccines was a miracle but an unnecessary one.

[mtls2005]

Seems like mike pence could clear this up? Right?

 

I mean he is still the head of CVTF?

 

 

 

[Bluespunk]

Not a good day for trump, with this and his attempt to bully Georgia officials into ''finding'' enough votes to give him a win there [by one vote, he wanted them to find enough votes so he could win by one vote-roflmao at that], he really has been exposed as the narcissist he is and his unwillingness to accept any truth or fact that clashes with his deluded versions of reality is just laughable.

 

The New Year just keeps getting better.

[Jeffr2]

These conspiracy theorists and purveyors of fake news are causing serious damage to our societies.  Should be a way to silence them.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/03/uk/covid-19-conspiracy-theories-2020-intl-gbr/index.html

 

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At a recent Saturday protest outside London's Stratford train station -- comprised of bindi-wearing hippies, conspiracy theorists in balaclavas, and middle-aged men in waterproof jackets -- a protester with the grassroots, anti-lockdown group StandUpX yelled into a megaphone.

 

"The vaccine is there to make you infertile... that vaccine is just going to make them able to control you," they shouted.

 

 

[ballpoint]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

Seems like mike pence could clear this up? Right?

 

I mean he is still the head of CVTF?

 

 

 

They need to go right to the top.  The fly on the head of the head.

[natway09]

He never believed, helped, admitted  nor even bothered that his people had all the morgues full for 

the last 7 months. 

A last gasp tirade of a broken, horrible man

Why the sudden interest now ?

[Paul Henry]

Famous Presidential Words. "I have heard" "People tell me." "I think"  "My understanding"  "Media says"  ( Not the fake media of course.)  For a President  to run a country and government on hear say would have to be the greatest development in the 2020. Only A true genius would resort to these irrefutable comments and undeniable facts.

[puipuitom]

Trump wants to be the greatest, so.. want to defeat the president with the most casualties during his "watch": president Roosevelt, with all who fell during WW2 = 405.399 in total

Corona now 354.720 and 16 days to go

 

[Scott]

Please use the proper names of people.  Name calling and aberrant spelling of names is trolling and will get your post removed and a possible warning.  

 

Also removed is a baiting post.

 

[Patong2021]

Dr. Fauci is counting the days and after January 20, he will unload some of the USA dark secrets. His memoir will be one of the most sought after reads.  If anyone can put the stake into the demon's heart, it will be Dr. Fauci who has endured so much abuse and disrespect.

[Pique Dard]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

a claim by President Donald Trump that federal data on COVID-19 cases and deaths in the United States is overblown,

well, i do understand him ! he said during one of his meetings "...nobody will talk about covid after the election". 

[timendres]

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Dr. Fauci is counting the days and after January 20, he will unload some of the USA dark secrets. His memoir will be one of the most sought after reads.  If anyone can put the stake into the demon's heart, it will be Dr. Fauci who has endured so much abuse and disrespect.

 

Fauci needs to go. Along with Redfield. The CDC needs fresh leadership.

[heybruce]

43 minutes ago, timendres said:

 

Fauci needs to go. Along with Redfield. The CDC needs fresh leadership.

Fauci is fine.  The CDC needs to work for a fresh President.

[Jeffr2]

3 hours ago, timendres said:

 

Fauci needs to go. Along with Redfield. The CDC needs fresh leadership.

Do you know anything about Fauci?  Obviously not....and he's not in charge of the CDC.  Trump's minions are.  So yes, the CDC needs new leadership.

 

But yes, Redfield needs to go.  Dodgy at best and was in charge when thousands died of this virus needlessly.

 

https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/16/as-controversies-swirl-cdc-director-is-seen-as-allowing-agency-to-buckle-to-political-influence/

As controversies swirl, CDC director is seen as allowing agency to buckle to political influence

[Lacessit]

I guess Fauci is tired of keeping his mouth shut while Trump spews lies on a daily basis.

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[Stargeezr]

This unstable man seriously needs a straight jacket.

  I am just waiting for him to order the military to lock up all the

other politicians as he wants to be King Donald.  

   Very Sad, and I am glad that the good doctor and others are treating

Trump in the manner that they do.

Geezer

[Rimmer]

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[Rimmer]

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[Sujo]

Fauci is a scientist who knows what he is talking about.

 

Trump is an idiot.

[billd766]

On 1/5/2021 at 3:16 AM, timendres said:

 

Fauci needs to go. Along with Redfield. The CDC needs fresh leadership.

IMHO it is the current government under Trump that needs to go.

 

The good news is that in 14 days they will be gone and the USA will slowly start to recover from 4 years of madness under Trump.

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9 minutes ago, candide said:

There's a simple way to assess it: the number of excess deaths (compared to the average of previous 5 years). It is much higher than the number of covid deaths and it clearly suggests the number of covid deaths has not been overestimated (it may well have been underestimated). 

 

I did not find the latest count, but as of 27 November, the number of excess deaths was 362,361 in the US, to be compared with a number of official 264,624 covid deaths at the same date. The number of covid deaths was more than 100,000 lower.

https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c-cbdf5b386938

(Free to read article)

 

Trump is clearly not correct (as usual).

You were too kind to this person whoever he is. Clearly he's not honest and has some sort of underhanded agenda.

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Who knows where you really located. But if it is Texas...

COVID-19 Exhausting ICU Beds as Hospitalizations Soar to Record High in North Texas, Statewide

The red line shows the number of people in Texas who are infected with COVID-19 who are hospitalized.
The hospitalization numbers for DFW, Houston, San Antonio, Austin and El Paso are below.

COVID-19 Exhausting ICU Beds as Hospitalizations Soar to Record High in North Texas, Statewide – NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth (nbcdfw.com)

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[Scott]

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