Contact tracing apps now COMPULSORY in Thailand - possible penalties for people not using them

[rtco]

What is the problem here ... you are tracked to death by CCTV (when they work) and Google yet when asked to download an App that might prevent further Covid transmissions or to tell you that you are at risk, a lot of you are saying you won't download it for whatever reason or can't because you don't have an Internet compatible phone which you can now get dirt cheap (as someone else pointed out) earlier in the thread. 

 

I religiously use the ThaiChana App when going in and coming out of shops, s'markets etc, sanitise my hands every time I do that (sometimes up to three times a day), use the temperature machines etc etc etc. And I have now downloaded the MorChana App.

 

What is the big deal here ... invasion of privacy, an affront to personal choice or what? Who cares ... if it helps prevent more problems then so be it. I for one want to start living a normal life thank you and will do anything to make that happen.

[John Drake]

1 minute ago, rtco said:

I religiously use the ThaiChana App when going in and coming out of shops, s'markets etc, sanitise my hands every time I do that (sometimes up to three times a day), use the temperature machines etc etc etc. And I have now downloaded the MorChana App.

 

Okay, I get it. You're a good boy.

[PETERTHEEATER]

2 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

There is no excuse not to own one these days

Oh, but there is. Mine excuse is I DONT WANT OR NEED A MOBILE PHONE. As an expert, why can't I satisfy this requirement using my radio receiver. 

[rtco]

2 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Okay, I get it. You're a good boy.

It's not about being a "good boy" it's about not being stupid!

[MadMac]

Example Singapore, they provide tokens for everybody for free who does not have a smartphone or cannot run a corresponding application. These tokens provide the same functionality and this is going on for months now. Thailand government instead of coping with such real problems talks about flying to the moon or purchasing submarines. Go figure.

 

[bradiston]

3 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

At present certainly, it's unclear whether it will stay that way, also see my earlier post with the link to Matichon.

A fairly garbled Google translation, but I think the gist of it is, as you say, MorChana (Doctor Won is the literal translation) is not now a prescribed app. But for a foreigner, 1000 THB or so for a cheapie phone is not a huge price to pay to get in step, surely! They do have other uses!

[PEE TEE]

If you do not own a smart phone  you will be prosecuted and banged up so they can track and trace you  

[248900_1469958220]

2 hours ago, apex2000 said:

I assume these apps require an Internet connection to log in/out of places. 
What happens in the case of not having an Internet connection on my phone?
I use wifi for Internet on my phone at home.

You are asking logical questions....this will anger certain people that make decisions like these....these are people that got their job because of who their mummy and daddies are...not what they know. 

[2long]

Does anyone remember the BREAKING NEWS that all foreigners were going to be 'given' the smart wristbands to check our temperature, blood pressure, alcohol content, favourite beer, etc etc? That never happened either, did it?

[findlay13]

2 hours ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said:

So if you don't own a smartphone you are now a criminal in Thailand???

It's the same in Oz if I want to go to a cafe ,resturant etc.I need to take a pic of a QR code then ap to log in etc etc. Not this dinosaur.My phone is ancient and pre-touch screen.It used to be paper  and pen sign in.

[arick]

It's doesn't work 

[madmitch]

2 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

There is no excuse not to own one these days. They can be had for as little as 1-2k thb
If people can not afford that, then they can't afford to be here in Thailand

Looked for the shakes head in dismay icon only to find it doesn't exist!

[bluesofa]

Just now, arick said:

It's doesn't work 

That's no excuse.

20,000 Baht fine please.

[Crossy]

1 minute ago, bluesofa said:

That's no excuse.

20,000 Baht fine please.

 

Only 20k? Have you seen the fines being levvied in the UK for no mask etc. ???? 

[cheapcanuck]

What to do if 1. You dont have phone? 2. the app doesn't work on your 3 year old phone?

[bluesofa]

Just now, Crossy said:

 

Only 20k? Have you seen the fines being levvied in the UK for no mask etc. ???? 

Tell me more.

Even though the app doesn't work. I was erring on the side of caution.

[sungod]

2 hours ago, jonclark said:

Well I guess that means most of the Thai population are now considered criminals as Google play store shows only 500k+ have downloaded the Mor Chana app. Not even 1 million. And Thai Chana only has 1m+ downloadeds. 

Considering everyone in Thailand uses the line app, it should be OK as it works through the scanner on the line app too. So dont even have to install any extra apps if you have line.

[tonray]

2 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

Didn't want to install it onto my main phones, so I gave it a go on Nokia 3310 I found in the drawer. Won't take it. Am I a criminal now?

Only if the Nokia belongs to someone else

[carlyai]

I have visited one place where their shop code didn't work. Informed the owner. Every other place I visited the app or code worked.

[HappyinNE]

Sorry but I can afford to get linked to the internet on my phone.  I don't want to!  I use the internet on a laptop at home.  The rest of the time I don't need to be bothered or tracked.  I keep track of where I am so do not need tracking.

[PEE TEE]

I thought that sim cards have to registered to the owner . if you turn on location they could track and trace from that . Or am I completely wrong ?

[alanrchase]

I use the LINE app to scan the QR codes to check in and out of stores. Does the Thai Chana app do more than this?

[carlyai]

5 minutes ago, cheapcanuck said:

What to do if 1. You dont have phone? 2. the app doesn't work on your 3 year old phone?

My phones a few years older than that and the app works.

[BritManToo]

17 minutes ago, rtco said:

What is the problem here ... you are tracked to death by CCTV (when they work) and Google yet when asked to download an App that might prevent further Covid transmissions or to tell you that you are at risk, a lot of you are saying you won't download it for whatever reason or can't because you don't have an Internet compatible phone which you can now get dirt cheap (as someone else pointed out) earlier in the thread. 

 

I religiously use the ThaiChana App when going in and coming out of shops, s'markets etc, sanitise my hands every time I do that (sometimes up to three times a day), use the temperature machines etc etc etc. And I have now downloaded the MorChana App.

 

What is the big deal here ... invasion of privacy, an affront to personal choice or what? Who cares ... if it helps prevent more problems then so be it. I for one want to start living a normal life thank you and will do anything to make that happen.

wouldn't it be better, if you stayed at home a bit more, and stopped moving around spreading disease?

[bluesofa]

3 minutes ago, PEE TEE said:

I thought that sim cards have to registered to the owner . if you turn on location they could track and trace from that . Or am I completely wrong ?

I gathered the idea of the MorChana app was to use bluetooth (not confirmed clearly) to be able see if you rubbed noses with anyone who who is suspected of having covid.

 

[brewsterbudgen]

They've already retracted this:

 

 IMPORTANT UPDATE: Looks like they are going to cancel the rule that people travelling in the five provinces must have the Mor Chana app. Apparently they just realized that not everyone has a smartphone and so not fair to penalise them for this #COVID19 #โควิด19 #Thailand

[VocalNeal]

What if I instal it on my tablet which never leaves the house? 

[PEE TEE]

11 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

Only 20k? Have you seen the fines being levvied in the UK for no mask etc. ???? 

no fines if you fish face Sturgeon 

[Crossy]

1 minute ago, VocalNeal said:

What if I instal it on my tablet which never leaves the house? 

 

You may struggle to check-in and out of locations.

[arick]

13 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

That's no excuse.

20,000 Baht fine please.

I registered and  I said I have not been around any dirty foreigners and have only scratch my own ass in the last few days. Then the app won't open. I guess next they will come and put barb wire around my house. I hope they leave me pool access