Thailand reports 2,438 coronavirus cases, daily record of 11 deaths

[Jiggo]

2 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

I'm a little worried as i have to go and travel to BKK in 2 weeks to collect my new passport..  ???? 

great timing, eh?! ???? 

Why not ask/pay an agent....depending on where you are...plenty in Pattaya area.

[PEE TEE]

2 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Double mask and avoid as many crowded places as you can! Best of luck!

Try agency and they can post it to you . . will cost but worth it 

 

[ThailandRyan]

2 hours ago, anchadian said:

Thai PBS World

@ThaiPBSWorld

 

Bangkok’s Police General Hospital has asked the Royal Thai Police to urgently send officers to help in the transport of patients after more than 10 patient transporters were infected with #COVID19 and many others quarantined

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/police-hospital-seeks-help-after-patient-transporters-infected-with-covid-19/

 

That is not a good sign.

[Excel]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Especially in Brazil, where case numbers are halved during weekends. 

 

People don't like to drag themselves to a hospital during a weekend. 

Plus of course the case numbers can not be hidden any more. The hospitals and Doctors have broken ranks with the dictatorial government and openly stating their hospitals are full, staff infected etc. So guess Monday or Tuesday we could easily see a doubling of reported numbers perhaps.

[RichardColeman]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Still only a mortality rate of 0.5 percent. 

You believe their numbers on that ? Surely false positives on the dead each year (500,000) would produce about 2500 cases at just 0.5% efficacy. Even an accurate test of 0.1% efficacy would produce 500 !

[ourmanflint]

1 hour ago, wasabi said:

The only Covid number from Thailand you can semi-believe in is the death count. That is rising so the situation is not under control.

And those numbers at least from UK experience are the result of infections up to 14-28 days ago, so expect deaths to massively increase in the coming weeks

[Swimfan]

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

That is not a good sign.

Makes you wonder just what level of PPE the staff are being issued with and what level of training they are being given. How many of them went home and infected their family?

[koratkarlos]

Does anyone know what the positivity rate actually is?  It would be helpful to know how many tests they are doing and how many people test positive.  Also it would be helpful to learn where the outbreaks occur so that we can avoid those areas.  Is this information available in English?

[Swimfan]

3 minutes ago, ourmanflint said:

And those numbers at least from UK experience are the result of infections up to 14-28 days ago, so expect deaths to massively increase in the coming weeks

And in India they are cremating twice the number of people who are dying. 
 

[Swimfan]

3 minutes ago, koratkarlos said:

Does anyone know what the positivity rate actually is?  It would be helpful to know how many tests they are doing and how many people test positive.  Also it would be helpful to learn where the outbreaks occur so that we can avoid those areas.  Is this information available in English?

Official sources suggest around 10-15k tests a day. It’s been floating between 10-15% positive 

The breakdown of locations has been coming through a bit later. Usually shown by each province 

Edited April 25, 2021 by Swimfan

[Bobydog]

3 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Strange mask wearing wasn't already required...seeing as Bangkok has been th epicenter of new cases for weeks now.

You forget who the peanuts are who are running this sideshow.

Edited April 25, 2021 by Bobydog

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

18 minutes ago, PEE TEE said:

Try agency and they can post it to you . . will cost but worth it 

 

 

 

There's been several research reports lately suggesting that having a tight fitting mask against one's face is as important or more important than double masking... But a tight fitting double mask is good too!

 

https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/tight-fit-more-important-than-a-second-mask-to-prevent-covid-19-spread/19535938/

 

https://scitechdaily.com/research-suggests-proper-fit-of-covid-face-masks-is-more-important-than-material/

 

In more recent times, I'm finding that it's now possible to order KN95 or similar masks (the Chinese or Korean versions of N95 masks) both inside Thailand and by mail order to some extent.

 

The challenge, though, is finding those kinds of products that are legit and really do the intended job instead of being low-quality, ineffective knockoffs.

 

Edited April 25, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[ThailandRyan]

This from another OP

 

"Ages of the deceased announced on Sunday ranged between 27 and 70, but most victims were aged in their 30s".  

 

This in itself should tell those folks who think that it is only those that are elderly that die from covid how wrong they really are.

[phills2k1]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

This from another OP

 

"Ages of the deceased announced on Sunday ranged between 27 and 70, but most victims were aged in their 30s".  

 

This in itself should tell those folks who think that it is only those that are elderly that die from covid how wrong they really are.

They don't care. They dug in so hard about this being nothing that almost nothing will convince them. And even if it does, they won't admit it. They'll just criticize us and say, "bet you're happy it's so much worse"

[Golden Triangle]

Well, the last 5 pages have really demonstrated to me just how many despicable people inhabit these forums. I really do wish that I could tell them in plain English just how disgusting they really are, unfortunately I would probably suffer a life ban so I won't.

[bkk6060]

9 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

This from another OP

 

"Ages of the deceased announced on Sunday ranged between 27 and 70, but most victims were aged in their 30s".  

 

This in itself should tell those folks who think that it is only those that are elderly that die from covid how wrong they really are.

Yes.  Not sure if it is the variants or what.

Take a look at Brazil 1000's under age 40 and even 100's of babies have died.

Young folks certainly are not invincible.

 

This is from Latin America news:

Between February 2020 and 15 March 2021, Covid-19 killed at least 852 of Brazil's children up to the age of nine, including 518 babies 

 

Very sad.

Edited April 25, 2021 by bkk6060

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Lock them into their place of work?

You can't mean, no way, you mean, no you can't, but you say they should treat Thai's like they did those migrant workers and lock them inside their cubicles like inside of the factories, Oh heavens to Betsy.  

 

You are absolutely right that equal treatment should be undertaken, especially for those of them that are not being forthcoming as to their possible contacts with infected folks and thus infecting the medical staff.

[Mung]

3 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

Down from yesterday. The threat of heavy fines for not wearing a face mask is clearly already taking affect.

You're probably applying sarcasm, but the infection rate lags a good week or so. Any notable impact from measures taken will only show later into early May. 

[ThailandRyan]

24 minutes ago, Swimfan said:

And in India they are cremating twice the number of people who are dying. 
 

I understood what you were trying to say, You just made it sound like they were cremating living folks or maybe they were just the walking dead.

[John Drake]

Just now, bkk6060 said:

Young folks certainly are not invincible.

 

But for much of the past year they've been made to believe that they are. Remember the Covid "parties?" A large portion of younger people have been dismissive of the threat to their lives and others. I would like to see the age groups involved in these Bangkok clusters. Were they primarily young or were debauched old men overrepresented? 

[rabas]

23 minutes ago, koratkarlos said:

Does anyone know what the positivity rate actually is?  It would be helpful to know how many tests they are doing and how many people test positive.  Also it would be helpful to learn where the outbreaks occur so that we can avoid those areas.  Is this information available in English?

Check here. Also note his comments on how people wrongly underestimate testing.

 

https://github.com/djay/covidthailand/#tests-per-confirmed-case

[welshguy]

I sure hope they can get this handled as best as possible.............Sadly , I don't think that's the case though.

 

What I fail to understand though, now that this current covid wave, is way bigger than the "first" covid wave...why isn't there any proper lockdowns? In the first wave, there were nowhere near any "cases" as there currently are.....yet they lock downed then?  Not now though? In fact, they allowed a mass spreading, by allowing Songkran travel to millions?

 

Surely to god, they must have learnt "something/anything"? about covid...I mean its been happening worldwide for well over a year now? It would appear not?

 

Thailand was very good/lucky in containing the first covid wave....when practically the whole world was learning to deal with and understand better covid.........There really is no excuse  now though....why don't they learn, why don't they act properly? I've been going to Thailand for almost 40 years now, got lots of Thai friends and family over there.  The "average" Thai, is in for a lot of hurt...(not that they haven't been already for the last year and a bit)..I really feel for them, and just hope/pray that they come out of this as best as possible.

 

I could ask why, they didn't procure vaccines, why didn't they "lockdown" blah blah blah..these questions have been asked, and will continue to be asked for years...........Don't expect any real answers though

 

The average Thai on the street, is getting more and more worried now.

[rabas]

2 minutes ago, welshguy said:

I sure hope they can get this handled as best as possible.............Sadly , I don't think that's the case though.

 

What I fail to understand though, now that this current covid wave, is way bigger than the "first" covid wave...why isn't there any proper lockdowns? In the first wave, there were nowhere near any "cases" as there currently are.....yet they lock downed then?  Not now though? In fact, they allowed a mass spreading, by allowing Songkran travel to millions?

 

Surely to god, they must have learnt "something/anything"? about covid...I mean its been happening worldwide for well over a year now? It would appear not?

 

Thailand was very good/lucky in containing the first covid wave....when practically the whole world was learning to deal with and understand better covid.........There really is no excuse  now though....why don't they learn, why don't they act properly? I've been going to Thailand for almost 40 years now, got lots of Thai friends and family over there.  The "average" Thai, is in for a lot of hurt...(not that they haven't been already for the last year and a bit)..I really feel for them, and just hope/pray that they come out of this as best as possible.

 

I could ask why, they didn't procure vaccines, why didn't they "lockdown" blah blah blah..these questions have been asked, and will continue to be asked for years...........Don't expect any real answers though

 

The average Thai on the street, is getting more and more worried now.

 

The answer to all your questions is Anutin, the great imposter Minister of Health.

[John Drake]

7 minutes ago, welshguy said:

What I fail to understand though, now that this current covid wave, is way bigger than the "first" covid wave...why isn't there any proper lockdowns? In the first wave, there were nowhere near any "cases" as there currently are.....yet they lock downed then?  Not now though? In fact, they allowed a mass spreading, by allowing Songkran travel to millions?

 

The difference between now and then, is that some people have been vaccinated.

[welshguy]

6 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

The difference between now and then, is that some people have been vaccinated.

Yes thats right.

 

A massive what? Less than 2%?

 

Hi sos and generals may well have been vaccinated, along with a pitiful minute proportion of the rest of the population......It doesnt seem to have had the desired effect though  has it?

Edited April 25, 2021 by welshguy
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[Tracyb]

In the meantime.......we’re still waiting to get vaccinated.

[Sheryl]

35 minutes ago, Swimfan said:

Official sources suggest around 10-15k tests a day. It’s been floating between 10-15% positive 

The breakdown of locations has been coming through a bit later. Usually shown by each province 

 

Not correct but an understandable misunderstanding. The lab tests shown in the daily situation reports are just for PUI.

 

They perfroming  between 40,000 - 50,000 tests a day and positivity rate is currently around 4% (up from 1% previously, but still under the 5% benchmark),

 

From 1- 17 April a total of 601,527 tests done.

 

The  raw data can be downloaded here. Updated weekly but sometimes a bit late, currently goes through 17 April.   https://service.dmsc.moph.go.th/labscovid19/indexen.php 

[Sheryl]

17 minutes ago, welshguy said:

 

 

What I fail to understand though, now that this current covid wave, is way bigger than the "first" covid wave...why isn't there any proper lockdowns? In the first wave, there were nowhere near any "cases" as there currently are.....yet they lock downed then?  Not now though? In fact, they allowed a mass spreading, by allowing Songkran travel to millions?

 

Surely to god, they must have learnt "something/anything"? about covid...I mean its been happening worldwide for well over a year now? It would appear not?

 

 

 

There is no public health rationale for this. Public health professional's recommendations were followed for the first wave and politicians decided to largely ignore them this time around, political reasons but probably myopic even on political grounds. Looks like lockdowns are starting to ramp up now but of course way late.

 

 

[anchadian]

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailands-prime-minster-asked-to-reconsider-another-national-lockdown/

 

Thailand’s prime minster asked to reconsider another national lockdown

April 25, 2021

 

A group of Thai medical professionals has issued a statement, asking the country’s prime minster to reconsider locking down the country again as a matter of urgency, citing the rapid spread of the latest wave of COVID-19 infections and fears that the medical system will collapse.

 

The statement also criticizes the government’s management ability, saying the 1668 hotline, which is supposed to help find beds for COVID-19 patients, is an indicator that management is failing. It also said that people do not have equal access to treatment, and some are paying for that with their lives.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

For some reason starting today, NBT World started breaking up their daily EN language recap of province by province new COVID cases into six different graphics divided up by region.  Rather than posting all six of the regional graphs here, I'll just provide the link below for anyone who's interested:

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157972885202050

 

Edited April 25, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK