Please Do Not be like this Guy

[rcuthbert]

They are capable of taking said note to the bank.

 

Perhaps the OP should hand out 20b notes to the destitute. Waitresses have a job, not to mention that they have access to food. Whereas, the aforementioned are malnourished.

 

Keep the pseudo-aristocratic speech/behavior code  nonsense in the West.

 

LOL!

[scorecard]

18 hours ago, kynikoi said:

Maybe like myself normally leaves nothing but a note tore in half on him and he was too lazy to fix it or he had no tape at home. With a piece of tape the waitress had b20 about 30mins of work for her.

 

Petty

 

That's only if other traders would accept the torn in two and taped together note. Many places don't. Most banks also don't accept such notes.

 

One possibility is that the farang customer involved normally doesn't give tips (many don't, several times I've eaten with farang who don't give tips and push their 'no tip' attitude on the other customers at the table), but somehow he ended with with a torn into two pieces 20B note. He realized that to offer the repaired note or offer it still in 2 pieces  at the cash register in say 7/11 of other shops (seen this before) it wouldn't be accepted so he decided that giving it as a tip would be the best way to get rid of it.

[whaleboneman]

16 hours ago, AlfHuy said:

Wrong way around.

Hey, you can't help it if you were born that way.

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, WineOh said:

Tipping is not mandatory in Thailand.

 

This is not the USA.

True, but if I got some good to excellent service I'd show some appreciation. I didn't normally tip in any place like malls or chain restaurants.

If I knew I'd return to a place I'd probably tip, as a hope of a positive next visit.

[whaleboneman]

15 hours ago, Old Croc said:

Not mandatory, but you may get a bullet in the back of the head on the way out if you don't.

link please

[whaleboneman]

One thing that bothers me with Thai servers: I hand them the baht and they almost always hand the change back to the girlfriend. And then I say - your mistake, she's a lousy tipper.

[Old Croc]

6 minutes ago, whaleboneman said:

link please

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[WineOh]

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

True, but if I got some good to excellent service I'd show some appreciation. I didn't normally tip in any place like malls or chain restaurants.

If I knew I'd return to a place I'd probably tip, as a hope of a positive next visit.

The only time I have had truly great service in Thailand was at the Apple store, Icon Siam.

 

That is truly the only time I have ever had great service here.

All the rest has been lukewarm at best.

[RAZZELL]

1 hour ago, Acharn said:

Yes. In my experience (ymmv), Thais normally do not tip. Unwanted change is what you give beggars on the street. I don't think I've ever left a tip, even when I was living in Bangkok. The restaurant he refers to must get lots of farangs if the girl expected a tip. And what's wrong with a ฿20 note torn in two? Stick the pieces together with scotch tape and it spends, or take it to the bank and they'll give you a new one. I agree there's something wrong with the guy he describes. First of all leaving a tip, and then the malicious tearing of the baht note, not knowing how things work in Thailand. So much undirected anger. By the way, you can do the same thing with damaged currency in any civilized country, even America.

 

Most Thais I know normally leave a small tip. Might not be much but a little eg the coins or small note/s from the change.

 

It all depends on what type of bar/restaurant. If they have added the 10% service charge already then perhaps not.

 

 

RAZZ

 

 

 

 

Edited April 28, 2021 by RAZZELL

[suzannegoh]

17 hours ago, WineOh said:

Tipping is not mandatory in Thailand.

 

This is not the USA.

I wondered how long it would take until someone objected to tipping at all.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 minutes ago, WineOh said:

The only time I have had truly great service in Thailand was at the Apple store, Icon Siam.

 

That is truly the only time I have ever had great service here.

All the rest has been lukewarm at best.

Try going where apple stores don't exist. You may be surprised at how good the service is away from such unimportant places, out where tourism hasn't ruined the natural good will of the locals.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, suzannegoh said:

I wondered how long it would take until someone objected to tipping at all.

Ever visited NZ? We don't tip anyone. Perhaps some uninformed tourists might do so, but it's not normal.

[WineOh]

19 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Try going where apple stores don't exist. You may be surprised at how good the service is away from such unimportant places, out where tourism hasn't ruined the natural good will of the locals.

so by your rationale, with the lack of tourism in Thailand for nigh on two years - the goodwill of the locals should be reset?

Can I expect great service everywhere I go now?

 

Even in Samui and Phuket?

[brommers]

So in NZ you probably pay your servers a decent wage. Try looking at what a server gets paid here and try living off that. I bet you wouldn't last one week.

[sanuk711]

17 hours ago, AlfHuy said:

My GF usually takes all the "coins" out of my pockets and I never see them again.

Yer---6 Daughters...3 Thai 3 Oz......Whats Change ??......????

[Saltire]

Am pretty sure the waitress would be able to 'cash' the torn note quite easily, but perhaps the OP as a farang would have had trouble.

 

Since Covid my tipping has increased due to the lack of customers pretty much everywhere. Mostly I give 100 Baht in a restaurant, more for a massage (if it was good). It's easy to forget these people are often on a reduced wage.  In a bar I tip 20 Baht per round of drinks. It helps to remember 100 Baht is only £2.50.

 

Believe me tipping is appreciated here, as per the example of 'bigger portions next time'. A regular tipper will many times reap the rewards of generosity. If you have a regular place the expected tip is always received well.

 

As for America, reminds me of a trip many years ago.  Friends took me to a seafood restaurant in Baltimore. The food was lousy, cold, brought out 2 times. I was pretty naive then and when they callculated the tip at 15% I was the one to protest. Nothing desered even a cent as a tip, the whole night was a disaster. My resaoning fell on deaf ears and the tip was paid. I was told the servers got back then around $2 an hour.

[Henryford]

Still legal tender just tape it up. But poor form to leave it like that.

[JingerBen]

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

 

That's only if other traders would accept the torn in two and taped together note. Many places don't. Most banks also don't accept such notes.

 

One possibility is that the farang customer involved normally doesn't give tips (many don't, several times I've eaten with farang who don't give tips and push their 'no tip' attitude on the other customers at the table), but somehow he ended with with a torn into two pieces 20B note. He realized that to offer the repaired note or offer it still in 2 pieces  at the cash register in say 7/11 of other shops (seen this before) it wouldn't be accepted so he decided that giving it as a tip would be the best way to get rid of it.

That's the most plausible explanation of all, based on my own experiences years ago in India trying to get rid of damaged bills.

   The old saying "It takes one to know one" comes to mind.

[EricTh]

Which well-known restaurant is this near Pantip Plaza? I might go there someday to taste the food first before tipping.

[EricTh]

9 minutes ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

I confess--it was me....since it was by pantip and a nice day I decided to take a shortcut and walk down loy kroh and land me down my night bazaar and pantip...as usual, and being so hansum whenever im on loy kroh I was getting the usual cat calls from the massage girls.....while I was distracted by an isaan granny a ladyboy went into my pocket.....being used to this, again due to my hansumness, i grabbed the wrist of the ladyboy with my money...and tug of war ensued as granny went to give me a kiss, i used the lady boy as a shield and snatched my money , thus tearing the 20 baht, I then picked up the pace and hightailed it to safety....thus explaining the mystery of the 20 bt.

 

Thus the lesson being, if you find yourself to be a hansum man in LOS, avoid loy kroh and the grannies

 

 

Do show us a photo of yourself so we can judge for ourselves.

[WaveHunter]

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

What was shameful about leaving a 20b tip........... should he have left more ?

Obviously I was talking about the old man who left the torn-in-half 20 baht note, Buddy.

[itsari]

20 hours ago, timendres said:

Feel free to hand me all of your cash that is torn in two pieces.

I paid a bill with a slightly torn 20 baht note . I was abruptly told , money is broken , no good. 

 

 

[rcuthbert]

2 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

That's only if other traders would accept the torn in two and taped together note. Many places don't. Most banks also don't accept such notes.

 

One possibility is that the farang customer involved normally doesn't give tips (many don't, several times I've eaten with farang who don't give tips and push their 'no tip' attitude on the other customers at the table), but somehow he ended with with a torn into two pieces 20B note. He realized that to offer the repaired note or offer it still in 2 pieces  at the cash register in say 7/11 of other shops (seen this before) it wouldn't be accepted so he decided that giving it as a tip would be the best way to get rid of it.

"Damaged Banknotes

1. What should I do if I have damaged banknotes? People can take damaged banknotes to Government Savings Bank or commercial banks in Thailand.

2. How long does it take to redeem damaged banknotes? Money will be credited immediately for banknotes that have more than three-fifths of the original banknote remaining. However, damaged banknotes which the Government Savings Bank or commercial banks are unable to exchange immediately are forwarded to the Bank of Thailand for examination. As a general rule, once the money reaches the Bank of Thailand, it takes around 10 - 15 days until either the redeemed amount is credited or the claim is rejected..."   https://www.bot.or.th/English/Banknotes/Pages/FAQ.aspx

[Bangkok Barry]

Extraordinary. All these comments about 20 baht. (Including mine ???? )

 

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, WaveHunter said:

Obviously I was talking about the old man who left the torn-in-half 20 baht note, Buddy.

is it no longer worth 20b ?

[thasoss]

was it the only change he had? did he deliberately tear it and leave it out of spite? we will never know.But yes be extra generous in these difficult times.What goes round comes round,karma has a way of balancing things up.

[thasoss]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Ever visited NZ? We don't tip anyone. Perhaps some uninformed tourists might do so, but it's not normal.

don't you think that's because the wages are relatively high for the work they perform?....same in australia.

[DaLa]

I can't say I agree with his actions, however I presume she will be able to actually present it somewhere and spend the note. I have a US $10 bill that was a little tatty when I received it in he states many years ago. Despite being to many countries where the currency is accepted it has become increasingly difficult to actually spend it. 

 

It's not torn in half , just well used and I'm not planning on buying a return flight to the US just to present it to a bank.

[Caldera]

While I'm a rather generous tipper myself, it's because I want to and can afford it, not because I feel there's an obligation to tip. This isn't the US. Each to their own, I'd say.

 

So, to come to a forum to complain about other people's tipping habits seems a bit odd to me, I don't think we need a tip police. I realize it's boring out there right now, but still, get a hobby or something.

[rwill]

21 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Tipping is not mandatory in the US, either, but a small appreciation is expected and usually given here.

In San Francisco it is.  About 15 years ago they passed a law there that restaurants have to add a 25% tip to the bill.