Pattaya A Dead or Dying City?

[rcuthbert]

18 minutes ago, KhunMorris said:

It's a busted flush. Accept it. Move forward.

 

The Pattaya mongers might need to actually make an effort for once.

 

Maybe put a shirt on and wear some deodorant. Hit the gym, if not you'll be left with the homeless bush babes.

 

Sincerely

 

MORRIS

Former Bar owner, Speaks Thai

 

[AlfHuy]

8 minutes ago, rcuthbert said:

Are they all looking for a handsome husband?

The 6th one, I could give her a helping hand.

[olfu]

Plenty of other cities waiting its only matter of how much men willing to pay.

For example nothing wrong with Angeles city.

[kingofthemountain]

1 hour ago, clivebaxter said:

 

Even that would be preferable to channels reviewing massage dens, a go go's, street walkers or places like the <deleted> Well inn! Don't delude yourself that sex destinations cannot be cleaned up, happened in Manila and other places.

It's always amazing to see the puritans spending most of their time hanging on the forums part reserved to Pattaya or exploring the seedy You tube channel 

 

Seriously mate you don't have already enough work to do trying to clean your own church from all the inside sins without coming here and pretend to dictate to adults what they can do or not with their bodies in their intimate sexual life ?

Edited May 12, 2021 by kingofthemountain

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, RobMuir said:

Different areas of Thailand cater to different markets. Phuket the more upscale, Koh Phangan the younger cooler crowd, Samui sort of in the middle, Hua Hin for the elderly and Pattaya for the lonely social misfits who have issues picking up girls without paying for various reasons and males from Muslim countries where it is nearly impossible to find casual sex.

 

There will always be a percentage of mostly Issan girls who got themselves pregnant young and the father runs off and drug addicts, or just the plain lazy who are prepared to rent their genitals to the dribbling misfits.

 

It ain't going to change, there will always be misfits and Muslims and there will always be these girls.

 

Pattaya will bounce back. Where else are they all going to go?

 

 

Those that wanted to stay on the game probably went to the Thai scene, and may never return. The switched on pretty ones were already on line before corona and they ain't, IMO, going back to sit in a grotty bar hoping some passing guy stays long enough to get interested.

 

The rest probably went back to the village to survive, and by the time the scene is back they will probably be too old to succeed in Pattaya. It was always a temporary thing for most of them. I rarely saw the same girl from one year to the next.

 

I'm sure some semblance of what was before will return, but IMO it won't be nearly as good- think Hua Hin- probably the worst place in LOS for the farang bar scene outside Chiang Mai which was so bad I didn't even bother.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

You read too much fiction.

 

 

Get up country and get serviced by a university student who chooses to supplement income for her education on a simple sex for cash basis.

Oh my, there really are some out there that probably got their information from British red top scandal sheet.

 

Edited May 12, 2021 by thaibeachlovers

[Thomas J]

10 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

It doesn't take much these days with technology to create fear, TV, media and some ugly looking dudes in suits who are in powerful positions, also wearing a mask, and having been vaccinated.

You are so correct about that.  Consider The Thailand Bureau of Epidemiology reported 131,157 dengue cases and 142 deaths in 2019.  If they chose to record each case of dengue fever and showcase each death as it occurred the way they are with Coved we would have the following scene.  People instead of masks would be wearing mosquito nets around our head to our necks.  Electronic Zappers would be in short supply as would citronella and other insect repellants.  Companies that sprayed for mosquitos would be unable to respond and the chemical companies would be making press releases each week touting the number of gallons of mosquito spray they shipped and announcing their plans to ramp up production to meet demand. 

I am not saying that Covid is not a serious issue but this second to second coverage of it has driven the world to a ridiculous level of paranoia for a disease that has only a 5% chance of requiring hospitalization and a 99.5% chance of recovery. 

They old saying in the news industry was "if it bleeds, it leads"  That has certainly been the case with Covid as they see people interested in it so they publish more articles on it accelerating the cycle of fear.  

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, olfu said:

Plenty of other cities waiting its only matter of how much men willing to pay.

For example nothing wrong with Angeles city.

Except that you can't enter the Philippines now.

[Pravda]

8 hours ago, rcuthbert said:

 

 

5 guys hanging out

[Taboo2]

12 hours ago, Thomas J said:

 

You are absolutely correct on that.  In the USA only 59% of black males graduate with a high school diploma.  By contrast the Asian population many entering the country as immigrants and not being able to speak English still thrive.  They push themselves and their children to go to school, take difficult subjects, study, and receive advanced degrees.  The result is that the Asian population not only does as well as the native Caucasian population it betters it.  The Asian population has the highest college graduate, post graduate rate.  Asians are also the highest earning ethnic group in the USA

This is true.  I have evidence to prove what was stated above.  My partner is Vietnamese, came here in 1980, picked up the language by watching TV and now is making more money than me.  Hardwork, education and resilience pays off in America. 

[jacko45k]

14 hours ago, clivebaxter said:

Prostitution is illegal here and

Starting a post with that old chestnut will hardly impress anyone here. 

[jacko45k]

13 hours ago, olfu said:

For example nothing wrong with Angeles city

Haven't been for a long time but there sure used to be..... doubt it is doing too well either these days. 

[jacko45k]

8 hours ago, Thomas J said:

and a 99.5% chance of recovery. 

Wrong numbers... it seems to be killing 2% on a worldwide basis. If you want credibility, get your numbers right. Minimizing this epidemic with incorrect ones does no good. 

[morrobay]

15 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

You read too much fiction.

 

 

Get up country and get serviced by a university student who chooses to supplement income for her education on a simple sex for cash basis.

I don't know if these girls are university but same ages. And you don't have to travel upcountry.        offdek.com

 

[EVENKEEL]

7 hours ago, Pravda said:

 

5 guys hanging out

At least 3.......maybe.

[baansgr]

Considering it was the worst high season in 20 years pre Covid, according to bar/restaurant owners...now with 14 months and probably at least another 6 until even a few thousand tourists return....and years befor any real numbers...Pattaya will not be the same again for many years to come. In fact it's hardly worth visiting anymore as almost every area is devastated...

[bkk6060]

What was was weather in England a whopping 13 today?

You UK folks must be drolling to come here.  You know it's true.  Just beautiful today warm, clear, a slight breeze a great morning walk.

 

[patsfangr]

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Wrong numbers... it seems to be killing 2% on a worldwide basis. If you want credibility, get your numbers right. Minimizing this epidemic with incorrect ones does no good. 

You've got your decimal places wrong! As of May 13: 161,080,616 Cases - 3,345,018 Deaths. That's .02%. (or two tenths of one percent) NOT 2%. Source:  https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Edited May 13, 2021 by patsfangr

[AlfHuy]

17 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Oh my, there really are some out there that probably got their information from British red top scandal sheet.

 

From the British Red Cross?

[AlfHuy]

3 hours ago, morrobay said:

I don't know if these girls are university but same ages. And you don't have to travel upcountry.        offdek.com

 

Looked the webpage up. Messages about 63 girls and all answered back:

Solly handsum but we are all booked through to 31 December by BritmanTOO. Solly na.

[patsfangr]

Thailand figures on COVID put Thailand at #98 of 228 countries in the world. 

Thailand: 88,907 Cases (.001% of 70 mil population!) 486 Deaths (7 per mil of population!)

 

Is that worth the panic shutdown they're imposing?

US is #1 in cases 10% of pop (much more testing!); .002% of pop death (vax in action!)

UK is #7 in cases 6.5% of pop (much more testing); .002% of pop death (vax in action!)

 

People are panicking, and allowing their economies to be destroyed, far beyond what is justified by the level of "death threat" presented by this very contagious FLU!

 

[Senechal]

28 minutes ago, patsfangr said:

Thailand figures on COVID put Thailand at #98 of 228 countries in the world. 

Thailand: 88,907 Cases (.001% of 70 mil population!) 486 Deaths (7 per mil of population!)

 

Is that worth the panic shutdown they're imposing?

US is #1 in cases 10% of pop (much more testing!); .002% of pop death (vax in action!)

UK is #7 in cases 6.5% of pop (much more testing); .002% of pop death (vax in action!)

 

People are panicking, and allowing their economies to be destroyed, far beyond what is justified by the level of "death threat" presented by this very contagious FLU!

 

 

 

To put a finer point on it:

 

There have been 486 deaths in Thailand to date since the beginning of the pandemic. That's 486 fatalities in a country of 70 million people.

 

• Only 14% of Covid fatalities had no co-morbidities or underlying illnesses.  (That's a total 68 otherwise-healthy people who have died from Covid in Thailand. Total.)
• Of those 68 people with no underlying illness, the median age was 65. (So that's just 34 otherwise-healthy people under the age of 65 who have died). 
• Of the 34 otherwise-healthy people above 65 group, many were in their 90's. 1 person was even 100 years old.  (Sorry, but a fart could probably kill a few of this group. And frankly, being aged 90+ should probably be classified as a comorbidity)
• Of the 34 fatalities among otherwise-healthy people under the age of 65, 46% of them were in Bangkok. (So that leaves JUST 16 otherwise-healthy people, under 65 that died outside of Bangkok)

So the entire country, ex-Bangkok has been shut down and the economy destroyed for a disease that has claimed the lives of just 16 otherwise healthy people under the age of 65 -- over the course of 18 months.

 

(How many people is that? It's 0.89 per month)

 

Edited May 13, 2021 by Senechal

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, patsfangr said:

You've got your decimal places wrong! As of May 13: 161,080,616 Cases - 3,345,018 Deaths. That's .02%. (or two tenths of one percent) NOT 2%.

Duh....3 in 161 x 100 for %

Edited May 13, 2021 by jacko45k

[johng]

14 hours ago, Thomas J said:

they publish more articles on it accelerating the cycle of fear.  

 

example here this morning

"COVID-19 can infect penis tissue and could lead to erectile dysfunction"   !!!!

 

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-can-infect-penis-tissue-and-could-lead-to-erectile-dysfunction-study-12304902

[jacko45k]

9 minutes ago, johng said:

 

example here this morning

"COVID-19 can infect penis tissue and could lead to erectile dysfunction"   !!!!

 

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-can-infect-penis-tissue-and-could-lead-to-erectile-dysfunction-study-12304902

Darn... if my main pastime wasn't risky enough already.

[DerbyDan]

did you stop by devil's den near nirun condo and soi aruntai?

[kingofthemountain]

10 minutes ago, DerbyDan said:

did you stop by devil's den near nirun condo and soi aruntai?

i am Interested to know where is this ''devil's den'' exactly?

i live in the area and i never heard of it

[spidermike007]

One thing that seems to be getting lost or overlooked in this discussion, is that tourism has been dropping for many years now. They claim the numbers were up, but that does not mean much. They might have been, they might not have been. The lower to middle income Chinese, Malaysian and Indian numbers were up. But, those are not the big spenders, as Thailand was not able to attract the rich strata of tourism they desperately clamor for, and there are a dozen valid reasons for this. 

 

The quality of tourists was way down, and lowering the standards only works if you are selling one dollar items at a swap meet. The authorities totally lost sight of the big picture, and thousands of hotels, restaurants, gift shops, massage shops, bars and other businesses had been feeling the pinch for years now. Covid is simply the last straw for hundreds of thousands of tourism related businesses, that have failed. 

 

One thing is for sure. For places like Pattaya, Samui, and Phuket nothing will ever be the same again. Even years from now, tourism will remain way down. I predict no more than 2 million tourists in 2022, maybe 3-5 million in 2023 to 2025. Thailand will never see the kind of numbers they saw in the past. They are being forgotten as we post. Though that may be good for some of us, it is tragic for a portion of the Thai people. 

[DerbyDan]

35 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

i am Interested to know where is this ''devil's den'' exactly?

i live in the area and i never heard of it

 

google it.

 

what i was really referring to was club sin, near nirun, in a deserted area, near a large dirt lot. 

[DerbyDan]

21 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

One thing that seems to be getting lost or overlooked in this discussion, is that tourism has been dropping for many years now. They claim the numbers were up, but that does not mean much. They might have been, they might not have been. The lower to middle income Chinese, Malaysian and Indian numbers were up. But, those are not the big spenders, as Thailand was not able to attract the rich strata of tourism they desperately clamor for, and there are a dozen valid reasons for this. 

 

The quality of tourists was way down, and lowering the standards only works if you are selling one dollar items at a swap meet. The authorities totally lost sight of the big picture, and thousands of hotels, restaurants, gift shops, massage shops, bars and other businesses had been feeling the pinch for years now. Covid is simply the last straw for hundreds of thousands of tourism related businesses, that have failed. 

 

One thing is for sure. For places like Pattaya, Samui, and Phuket nothing will ever be the same again. Even years from now, tourism will remain way down. I predict no more than 2 million tourists in 2022, maybe 3-5 million in 2023 to 2025. Thailand will never see the kind of numbers they saw in the past. They are being forgotten as we post. Though that may be good for some of us, it is tragic for a portion of the Thai people. 

 

really, you think it will never re surface, i find that hard to believe. when covid blows over cant see why things wont revert back to normal.