8 hours ago, jacko45k said:

People keep coming back with this type of argument, but if the police stop you, is it easy to prove all those in the vehicle are 'family' that you live with?

For me it is just showboating and being argumentative, and putting police in a difficult place. 

Don't worry, no mask will be required in your own home ever.... 

Stop wailing about the rules and work with them. Hopefully then the sooner it will be rescinded. 

We call them 'The awkward squad'....

I can understand wearing the mask in public places like supermarkets etc but why the need when walking outside where you are not in close contact with anyone ?

1 hour ago, KamalaRider said:

I have a close personal friend working at a major hospital here in Sweden as a virology professor, they are doing a study on the Covid-19 spread. All evidence points to the virus being airborne.

I thought this  had been established  over a year ago!

Refuse masks

Ridiculous, masks doesn't help in Thailand. Better to open up fully. We need parks and gyms, not stupid masks from stupid leaders ????????????

2 hours ago, jingjo01 said:

Someone should look at Bang Saray public park near the beach. Every afternoon and evening large groups of Thai youngsters gathering and playing around with loud music. No masks and no social distancing. Usually from about 5 pm to 10 pm. I did report it to the appropriate call in phone number several months ago. The operator said they would contact the Tessaban to advise. No action yet taken. These teenagers involved in risky behavior could take the virus back to their elderly parents and not even know. If I leave my house without a mask I could get fined. Why does this rule not apply to these irresponsible Thais ? 

It applies to all groups .

Does wearing a mask like average kon thai (i.e. under the chin with nose and mouth open) count as wearing and save you from fine? ????

Ridiculous. Covid: The Moneymaker for a select group.

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

As it is ejected from a big drippy sneezing nose at 150 km/hr, it is most definitely airborne.

I personally never sneezed when being infected but I did cough a lot. But I couldn't cough very hard due to respiratory problems. 

No more business owners to pay stipends.  Find a new source of revenue.

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

So still can be fined while driving my own car with my family inside and not wearing a mask, even though we live under the same roof and the GF and I sleep in the same bed.....interesting times ahead.  Next we will be mandated to have the mask on while inside our own homes.  It is already a Juristic rule to wear them when we go outside the unit, are in the lifts and in the common areas.  Saw a resident swimming yesterday and was about to ask him where his mask was.....lol

You see it from a very personal and narrative view. The government as hopefully all of us, want to stop a pandemi. One way the government think is possibly is to demand that all wear facemasks outside home. Then what is the easiest way to control it? Stop every car where people not wear facemasks and check if they all live in the same place, or fee everyone that not wear a face mask? The latter is easier for both them and you. So think again and think right this time.   

8 hours ago, ezzra said:

Trust the authorities to complicate things with laundry list of fines, just set up one fine for all and be done with it, now the question remain how well they can or be able to enforce the new rule...

Couldn't agree more. Same fine for all. Enforcement easy. 

 

NO MASK FINE: 0 THB 

 

Problem solved. 

8 hours ago, KannikaP said:

These are two completely different things. A rag around the gob will do then.

How do they know if it is your 1st, 2nd or 3rd offence?

It's the instantaneous comm technology developed as a spinoff of the Thai Moon Mission program.

Fascinating.

I reviewed some studies - as I always felt safe outside, especially riding my scooter, as long as I avoided bumping shoulders with other pedestrians.

 

One with 7000 military personnel who lived in poorly ventilated small accomodations. Mask wearing had little effect inside for the long periods...

 

For people outside, however, it made no difference... less than 0.1% get the infection outside... nearly all infected get the transmission through close quarters indoors.

 

Thus really mask wearing INSIDE and around shops or in busier areas makes some sense - but in cars and 'anywhere outside' is utterly ridiculous.

 

I'm waiting for the Mafia to try to stop me on my scooter...

 

Obviously, the police will continue to avoid entering any gated communities or private Moobahn areas in order to avoid being caught ignoring the crimes, drinking/dinner parties etc. just as they avoid entering any sois like ours, where there are at least 3 dozen ancient coaches spewing clouds of smoke that send all pedestrians running for cover coughing their guts out twice a day...

 

I continue to be impressed by the utter <deleted> that was the Land of Smiles.

2 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

So how does it feel being pfizer vaccinated and still going thru quarantine?

It sux

I've seen quite a few stubborn people who refused to wear masks. I hope the enforcement of the rule is good.

38 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

I thought this  had been established  over a year ago!

There's no study to my knowledge that has been released yet, might be but I don't know any, I know some of the studies have leaked information about it 

9 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Some are so selfish they think it is a joke and don't want to follow the rules and believe they should not be required to wear a mask.

I like it.  Would like to see even higher fines.  

They should put undercover cops at the malls, Foodland and Makro make a fortune. 

 

 

it's the same attitudes that resulted in hundreds of thousand deaths in the west - some folks just don't care about others or they've become brain dead from reading all the conspiracy garbage on the book of face - either way imo they're no different than drunk drivers and perhaps should be jailed (where they'll be begging for a mask lol)

Thailand thought wrongly that the high temperature here and the wearing of masks kept the number of cases low last year and are still under this misapprehension.

I wonder if they have more ability to collect such fines than they do with traffic fines.  Traffic tickets can be thrown in the trash wit complete impunity.  These probably can, too.    And if you have little ort no cash on you, you cannot be made to pay on the spot.  The whole mask business is a joke.  The crappy masks 90% of the people are wearing offer no protection.   It is all a dog and pony show to make the ignorant feel safer. 

26 minutes ago, ben2talk said:

Fascinating.

I reviewed some studies - as I always felt safe outside, especially riding my scooter, as long as I avoided bumping shoulders with other pedestrians.

 

One with 7000 military personnel who lived in poorly ventilated small accomodations. Mask wearing had little effect inside for the long periods...

 

For people outside, however, it made no difference... less than 0.1% get the infection outside... nearly all infected get the transmission through close quarters indoors.

 

Thus really mask wearing INSIDE and around shops or in busier areas makes some sense - but in cars and 'anywhere outside' is utterly ridiculous.

 

I'm waiting for the Mafia to try to stop me on my scooter...

 

Obviously, the police will continue to avoid entering any gated communities or private Moobahn areas in order to avoid being caught ignoring the crimes, drinking/dinner parties etc. just as they avoid entering any sois like ours, where there are at least 3 dozen ancient coaches spewing clouds of smoke that send all pedestrians running for cover coughing their guts out twice a day...

 

I continue to be impressed by the utter <deleted> that was the Land of Smiles.

Finally, somebody with a brain speaks.  Thank you, Ben.

9 hours ago, jacko45k said:

People keep coming back with this type of argument, but if the police stop you, is it easy to prove all those in the vehicle are 'family' that you live with?

For me it is just showboating and being argumentative, and putting police in a difficult place. 

Don't worry, no mask will be required in your own home ever.... 

Stop wailing about the rules and work with them. Hopefully then the sooner it will be rescinded. 

"Work with them, you are a comedian".

 

I can't sit with friends and chat over a cold beer, but you can sit together and share somtam.  Where is the science behind that idea? 

 

Where is the PROOF of people walking without a mask in an open space transmitting covid?

 

Sitting in your car and wearing a mask is so comical, nearly as comical as being told to "work with them"!

Is a mask required while riding a motorbike on the highway? in the countryside? Is "public" regarded as where people are present or gathered or an urban area?

9 hours ago, trainman34014 said:

Just Bull+++t really as most Thai's don't have a pot to p++s in and will do push up's; only Farang will suffer with heavy cash fines to boost the Cops Tea Money !

Exactly. Last month I watched 3 farangs getting fined for no mask while waiting for their pancake from the street stall. Directly across the street was a pharmacy with the Thai women working standing in the doorway talking to her friend (Thai women) both without masks on. Cops gave zero f’s about them. Just getting some whisky money from the farangs. 

9 hours ago, WineOh said:

an enforcer would have made a small fortune on my soi this morning.

 

I counted 12 people without masks in the space of 5 minutes.

 

12,000 baht for 5 minutes work

 

Not bad money at all for a local.

What city/town do you live in?

In Pattaya, Thai's almost all wear masks, it's the Fallangs who don't. 

Going helmetless though, that's mainly Thai's. 

Me, whatever my opinion, I don't want a fine, so I wear both.

57 minutes ago, Parsve said:

You see it from a very personal and narrative view. The government as hopefully all of us, want to stop a pandemi. One way the government think is possibly is to demand that all wear facemasks outside home. Then what is the easiest way to control it? Stop every car where people not wear facemasks and check if they all live in the same place, or fee everyone that not wear a face mask? The latter is easier for both them and you. So think again and think right this time.   

Doubt it.  It's been the gift that keeps giving to those in charge.  They may never allow covid to be 'beaten'

Sure don't want to get fined. 

Meanwhile there is not one confirmed case of a covid transmission in an outdoor public area.  Closing a running track for example is completely retarded. Fining people for walking outside without a mask is pure insanity.  

10 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Or perhaps  the Can  Can?

Can't Can't.????