1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

 

This is what all the vaccines are meant to do. Sinovac does not do this effectively with the Delta variant evidenced by what I previously said about doubled vacced people becoming seriously and some dying. 

But no vaccine provides absolute protection against people becoming seriously ill and dying. Not even the mRNA vaccines after 2 doses are administered.

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

I actuallly did something I'm rather ashamed of; I actually scrutinized the chart provided by bkkbrian. Most of the past Sundays showed at least a small rise. One Sunday had a big one. It was more mixed for Tuesday  with 2 big drops and a couple of small rises. It looks entirely random to me.

I think we give too much credit to the testing system and data collection and consolidation if we think it comes in evenly from all across the country and is then included immediately.

 

nothing in Thailand seems to be pan provincial in terms of data, so although possible, I’d be surprised if it’s the case with Covid stats.

 

consequently, random blips and dips are almost certain to occur.

2 hours ago, smedly said:

no less memorable than the 7 nurses that died on the front line fighting this deadly plague

 

RIP to them all

 

 

 

Yes. Would also be interesting to know if they'd been vaccinated recently, and with which vaccine.?

As long as no farangs are harmed in the making of this crisis I honestly DO NOT CARE!!!

49 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Yesterday, we had a ThaiPBS news report based on Thai Red Cross testing saying that the protection conveyed by the Sinovac vaccine, while starting out OK, appears to then weaken dramatically thereafter and ends up being little protection against the Delta variant.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/sinovac-vaccine-barely-effective-against-alpha-or-delta-covid-19-variants/

 

As with many news reports here, the ThaiPBS report was based on a Chula doctor's Facebook post in Thai, and wasn't very clear in the details of the findings and just what they meant.

 

So I went back today and looked at the doctor's original TH post on Facebook, where he had the following graphic that I'm trying to interpret and understand.  If anyone has any feel for such things, please do chime in:

 

Here's the Google Translate version I got of the doctor's actual pertinent comments in TH regarding the Sinovac vaccine:

 

 

And here's the accompanying chart he posted on Facebook with his comments:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/thiravat.h/posts/4668479593185558

 

All in all, this info -- and all the outside world data emerging re the Sinovac vaccine -- doesn't sound very promising, especially in regards to its ability to protect against the Delta variant.

 

 

It looks like the most effective protocol listed in this study against the Delta variant is 2 doses of Sinovac followed by 1 of Astra Zeneca. Of course, it didn't look into what the effects of 3 doses of AZ would be.

36 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Thailand testing number when I looked on May 13 was 8,124,896. Today 8,129,670. Quite obviously the government is hiding the testing figures. Why? So the world cannot see the true low numbers of testing and extrapolate from this that numbers must be under-reported and hence much higher. What many on here have been saying since the very early stages last year.

There was also an article in Nikkei suggesting many hospitals stopped testing as they were running out of beds anyway.

 

Anyone who doesn't understand that Thailand is not testing enough is either daft or has an agenda, or maybe both. 

 

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Numbers seem to be going up as expected............

 

Booster vaccine shot to be provided as 880 medics contracted Covid-19

The Department of Disease Control on Sunday reported that 880 medical professionals had been infected by the virus of the around 700,000 cases since the start of the latest Covid-19 wave in April,

Of the medics infected, 19.7 per cent, or 173 people, had not been vaccinated.

“Of the medics who had been infected, seven people died. Five were not vaccinated, while one had received a dose of Sinovac and another had received two doses of Sinovac,” said Dr Sophon Iamsirithaworn, the department’s director-general.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003124

 

Begs the question of why there are unvaccinated medical staff one month after the mass rollout and more than two months after vaccines arrived in Thailand prior to the mass rollout. They were supposed to be the first group vaccinated. The PM, cabinet and MP’s appear to have got theirs before June.

3 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Begs the question of why there are unvaccinated medical staff one month after the mass rollout and more than two months after vaccines arrived in Thailand prior to the mass rollout. They were supposed to be the first group vaccinated. The PM, cabinet and MP’s appear to have got theirs before June.

I believe it was also noted that 97% of Thai health care workers had been vaccinated. Which seems to show that being vaccinated has provided health care workers with very significant protection.

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

That will solve the testing problem for sure

Look no queue.... a result.

4 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Begs the question of why there are unvaccinated medical staff one month after the mass rollout and more than two months after vaccines arrived in Thailand prior to the mass rollout. They were supposed to be the first group vaccinated. The PM, cabinet and MP’s appear to have got theirs before June.

Of course and we also know they can be very creative with their classification of being vaccinated.

49 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Three more Phuket “sandbox” tourists found infected with COVID-19

Three more foreign tourists, who arrived on Thailand’s resort island of Phuket under its “sandbox” scheme, have been infected with COVID-19, according to local health authorities.

 

Phuket’s provincial health office reported yesterday (Sunday) that the newly infected tourists came from Myanmar, South Africa and Switzerland.

 

The infected Myanmar tourist is the mother of two previously infected children, aged 8 and 9, who tested positive on Sunday, while two other tourists tested positive during a second swab test after staying on Phuket. All of them have been sent to hospitals for treatment.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/three-more-phuket-sandbox-tourists-found-infected-with-covid-19/

 

Same question as with the two children. Did they bring it in, or catch it here. I think that makes a big difference, at least in my mind. If the latter, well, just how many cases are there in Phuket? If the former, how many locals did they infect?

 

the follow up question is, what strain do they have? 
 

hope they can see the Patong firework show and Laguna breakdance performance from their quarantine hotel, otherwise they are missing out on the highlights of their holiday.

 

the good news is that after 3 days of incessant rain and thick cloud, today finally sees some patches of blue sky and a little bit of sun.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Bet wasn't infected with Delta.

Did you make follow up inquiry.

Somewhat surprising as at that time you were advocating that schools should be open.

At that time everywhere was open (except bars)!  No, I didn't make any follow up enquiry, other than to enquire about the student's health (after the first day he was asymptomatic, but spent 14 nights in hospital).  Not sure why you're surprised? My views on closing schools haven't changed.

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I believe it was also noted that 97% of Thai health care workers had been vaccinated. Which seems to show that being vaccinated has provided health care workers with very significant protection.

Vaccinated, or “vaccinated”?

3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

My views on closing schools haven't changed.

So in a nut shell,  you believe that schools in Bangkok currently should be open.

Heavens forbid. Amazing.

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

So in a nut she'll, you believe that schools in Bangkok currently should be open.

Heavens forbid. Amazing.

Indeed. There have been quite a few reported cases from schools, subsequently carried back into homes of course.

 

education is important for sure, but there’s a limit to how important. Anyway, no need to go over old ground.

Thailand is currently 8th in the world for number of people in critical condition and in the coming 2 weeks should be in the top 50 for covid infections. They truly have fallen from that 'pat on the back' time 

 

 

Just a reminder.  Will 14 days be long enough?  I very much doubt it.

https://twitter.com/The_PattayaNews

16 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

the follow up question is, what strain do they have? 

This is the biggest question I see as the Delta variant only takes 3 to 4 days to rear its ugly head and make people ill.

Several citizens were waiting for free rapid antigen tests at the Covid-19 testing station near Thupatemee Stadium in Pathum Thani province on Monday morning.

https://twitter.com/Thenationth/status/1414448265748049928

 

3 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Several citizens were waiting for free rapid antigen tests at the Covid-19 testing station near Thupatemee Stadium in Pathum Thani province on Monday morning.

https://twitter.com/Thenationth/status/1414448265748049928

 

So much for social distancing!!!  Wonder how many people pick up the virus waiting in these queues?

2 minutes ago, CRUNCHER said:

So much for social distancing!!!  Wonder how many people pick up the virus waiting in these queues?

Indeed. The Thai tribal - collective mentality is one explanation for these scenes.

 

 

40 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said:

Anyone who doesn't understand that Thailand is not testing enough is either daft or has an agenda, or maybe both. 

A daft agenda?Now that sounds a lot like what a group of people some are calling the Thai government has!

6 minutes ago, CRUNCHER said:

So much for social distancing!!!  Wonder how many people pick up the virus waiting in these queues?

Going for the herd immunity approach.

Another view of your photo you posted earlier TR, 'tents under a highway'

 

Faced with a shortage of hospital beds, a community in Klongtoey, Bangkok decided to isolate #COVID19 patients in tents under a highway #Thailand cr คลองเตยเเลนด์ https://facebook.com/Klongtoeyland/

https://twitter.com/Tan_Hui_Yee/status/1414415099708600322

 

National Vaccination Rollout:

 

DAY 27: 98,605 <— Saturday

DAY 28: 106,851 <— Sunday

DAY 29: 280,642

DAY 30: 269,653

DAY 31: 291,575

DAY 32: 356,378

DAY 33: 399,908

DAY 34: 93,284 <— Saturday

DAY 35: 100,025 <— Sunday

 

TOTAL: 8,468,692 doses

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1414453364264292356

4 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Another view of your photo you posted earlier TR, 'tents under a highway'

 

Faced with a shortage of hospital beds, a community in Klongtoey, Bangkok decided to isolate #COVID19 patients in tents under a highway #Thailand cr คลองเตยเเลนด์ https://facebook.com/Klongtoeyland/

https://twitter.com/Tan_Hui_Yee/status/1414415099708600322

 

Thank you for the full info.

35 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Vaccinated, or “vaccinated”?

Just tracking back to a helpful post a few days ago by "tallguyjohninbkk" the chart and link are there.

 

"MoPH also released another chart showing their progress in vaccinating various priority groups in Bangkok province:, with more than 16% of high risk medical personnel still not having received their second shot as yet."

 

https://aseannow.com/profile/58284-tallguyjohninbkk/content/page/3/?type=forums_topic_post

The government has opened three Covid-testing centers to facilitate rapid antigen tests, which will help hospitals shorten the waiting period for tests. The goal is to test around 10,000-12,000 people per day for 1-2 weeks at these centers (1/2)

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1414455581620932608

These centers include the ones in: - Thupatemi Stadium - Rajamangala National Stadium - The Government Complex On Wednesday, another center will open in Kiak Kai at the Air Defense Artillery Division. (2/2)

 

 

80 deaths From the total 8,656 cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 6,044 were found via tests at medical facilities

- 2,515 via proactive tests at known clusters

- 73 via proactive tests in prisons

- 24 imported

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1414458689533014017

The 3rd wave had led to 316,164 cases and 2,697 deaths since April 1 with a mortality rate of 0.85%. There are 90,578 patients who are being treated at hospitals. Of that, 2,895 are in critical condition including 747 on ventilators.

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1414459004848246784