Pattaya: Dead as a Dodo

[scubascuba3]

23 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

My last massage girl was 25 and wearing a flight attendant uniform (at the start).

It's a shame girls don't give more thought to what they wear, not unusual for a thai bird to go take a shower come out in a towel and I get them to go back and put their clothes back on, they usually look puzzled

[Skeptic7]

26 minutes ago, Johnny Mac said:

Was that before take off?

More like blast off. ????

????

[DefaultName]

Everything is closed, but still there.

Yes, a lot of businesses are gone forever, some faces will not be seen again.  Some will be missed, some not.

But the buildings are still there, a good clean, maybe a lick of paint, some new chairs and they can open.  a couple of days to do that, dunno how long the licences take though.
Staff are easy, once the word hits the "source" that the tourists are back, the buses will be full of girls who need money and don't want to do 12 hour shifts in a factory to get it.

Walking Street, for me, good riddance.  But.  It's a huge attraction, either to "indulge", or as a zoo for the looky-looky's.  Either way, it brings money in.

Casino's.  IMO a mistake, for some reason Thais don't seem to be able to control their gambling.  I'm a bit the same, so I just won't go in one.  The opposition came from the very top but the new man there doesn't have the same opinions as the last, so I think this will happen.

 

Pattaya is simply too big a money maker for Thailand to leave closed.

 

All this of course can't happen without a vaccinated population, all the countries that are coming out of this pandemic have vaccinated big time, there doesn't seem to be any other way out of this.

 

Or I could be wrong, time will tell.  ????

 

[WhatsNext]

8 minutes ago, DefaultName said:

All this of course can't happen without a vaccinated population, all the countries that are coming out of this pandemic have vaccinated big time, there doesn't seem to be any other way out of this.

 

Or I could be wrong, time will tell.  ????

I am for vaccination as long as the vaccines are safe enough that is, but even without vaccination the virus will go it's way and keep mutating till it's no longer dangerous. We only have to look at history to see this effect, the spanish flu is a good example as we didn't have anything to fight it and it disappeard after about 2.5 years. 

 

As the Spanish flu from 1918 was a corona virus as well, i think we have a good chance of the same timeframe being true for this one. 

[Skallywag]

4th time Beach has been closed now. (as told in Pattaya News yesterday)  

Why all these new forum threads about Pattaya "hurting" or "closed" 

Nothing "new" to report, it is lockdown #4 and sw already got through the first 3.

Why is this one different?

Just be glad they have not banned alcohol sales as they did May 2020. 

So in reality this lockdown is still better than May 2020 !   

And the Mayor of Pattaya still hopeful for a September 1, 2021 opening! 

WooHoo

Peace

[Espanol]

1 hour ago, WhatsNext said:

This city will be the next sandbox project after Phuket and Samui. 

Keeping tourists inside is not so difficult and really not needed when the tourists pose less of a risk than the local population.

Yes, but how do you keep Thais outside?

 

Once you open Pattaya to tourists many Thai workers and bargirls will go to Pattaya to make some money and some of them will be infected. 

 

Maintaining control in Pattaya limits is impossible, because it's not an island like Phuket.

[thurien]

On 7/22/2021 at 6:54 PM, RichardColeman said:

Hopefully Thailand will concentrate on European tourists for a few years

if not necessary they will never do anymore, these few figures from EUR / AUS / US who will be coming and will be stingy 60+yo  guys cannot help the economy at all...

 

[elgenon]

I think you are offending dodos by the comparison! 555

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

My last massage girl was 25 and wearing a flight attendant uniform (at the start).

Gotta love First Class.

[gk10012001]

  Now run along.  The street lights will be on soon

Edited July 24, 2021 by gk10012001
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[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, gk10012001 said:

You are an argumentative little person.  Thailand banned or severely limited foreign travelers so of course by default the officials disliked Foreigners.  And that one health official literally publicly spoke against the dirty farangs that he alleges were the cause or were bringing in the virus.  Now run along.  Nothing you say or write will change the direction Thailand is going in.

The Whole World banned foreign travel or highly restricted foreign travel , this is to stop the virus from spreading, rather than any Countries dislike of foreigners .

   Thai officials do not dislike foreigners , they dislike Covid

[Jumbo1968]

Judging by the new developments on what was basically a car park on 3rd Road, the new nightclub on Soi Buakhao, the Tree Town Development, Witherspoons 2 new bars and other bars being renovated some business people must think there will be an influx of tourists once Covid is sorted ?

In my years in Pattaya it was on the way out before Covid, empty bars, the girls sitting uninterested playing on their phones, the high baht, I believe it will take years to recover if it other does. 

[gk10012001]

1 hour ago, WhatsNext said:

I am for vaccination as long as the vaccines are safe enough that is, but even without vaccination the virus will go it's way and keep mutating till it's no longer dangerous. We only have to look at history to see this effect, the spanish flu is a good example as we didn't have anything to fight it and it disappeard after about 2.5 years. 

 

As the Spanish flu from 1918 was a corona virus as well, i think we have a good chance of the same timeframe being true for this one. 

Most of everything that has done will be shown to be a lesson in futility.  All that most shutdowns and curfews did or will likely do is delay the inevitable.  Even flu vaccines are barely 40% effective because they have to guess what strain(s) to try and combat prior to mass manufacturing the vaccines.  Things change.  COVID will be no different and is naturally mutating.

[redwood1]

11 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The Whole World banned foreign travel or highly restricted foreign travel , this is to stop the virus from spreading, rather than any Countries dislike of foreigners .

   Thai officials do not dislike foreigners , they dislike Covid

Boy the virus is really coming in handy then..........Because severely reducing world travel was one of the planned goals of Agenda 21...........And the stack-em and pack-em housing was already well underway with all the new shoebox condos....

[Thujone]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Why would you let "granny" do such an important job?

 

Maybe they don't want "brother" doing it, as shown in the pic.

[NoshowJones]

58 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The Whole World banned foreign travel or highly restricted foreign travel , this is to stop the virus from spreading, rather than any Countries dislike of foreigners .

   Thai officials do not dislike foreigners , they dislike Covid

I take it the Thai officials you are referring to are the unelected "there will be no coup" PM and his soldier boys.

I doubt very much if they dislike the Virus, I would bet that certain foreign and offshore bank accounts have increased dramatically in the past 18 months.

[Jumbo1968]

Just now, possum1931 said:

I take it the Thai officials you are referring to are the unelected "there will be no coup" PM and his soldier boys.

I doubt very much if they dislike the Virus, I would bet that certain foreign and offshore bank accounts have increased dramatically in the past 18 months.

Covid is doing exactly what the government want, controlling the people and it has some frightened to death.

[Mac Mickmanus]

10 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Covid is doing exactly what the government want, controlling the people and it has some frightened to death.

Not only that , its has multitudes of them actually dying from the virus 

[Jumbo1968]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Not only that , its has multitudes of them actually dying from the virus 

I would call around 4000 deaths in Thailand a multitude most of whom had underlying health problems.

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[Mac Mickmanus]

Just now, Jumbo1968 said:

I would call around 4000 deaths in Thailand a multitude most of whom ha underlying health problems.

This is a World wide thing , its also been suggested that the Thai figures are abnormally low 

[Jumbo1968]

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

This is a World wide thing , its also been suggested that the Thai figures are abnormally low 

I think if the bodies were piling up at the temples we would know about it, I do believe there is more Covid in Thailand than the published figures due to lack of testing and people who have symptoms not being tested as they will end up in hospital or even worse in a warehouse.

[redwood1]

2 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I think if the bodies were piling up at the temples we would know about it, I do believe there is more Covid in Thailand than the published figures due to lack of testing and people who have symptoms not being tested as they will end up in hospital or even worse in a warehouse.

Here are some numbers for you....

 

I make 100,000 baht a day picking up plastic bottles from the street and it only takes 10 minutes.... I can make 1,000,000 baht a week if I work 15 minutes a day...

 

Point being..... Its very very very easy to publish bogus numbers....

 

Like you said people should trust their eyes over numbers.....I have not seen any bodys or any sick people at all myself, and I am out and about a lot...

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Thujone said:

Maybe they don't want "brother" doing it, as shown in the pic.

It's always fascinating when some want to be experts see men everywhere.

[Mac Mickmanus]

9 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

 

Like you said people should trust their eyes over numbers.....I have not seen any bodys or any sick people at all myself, and I am out and about a lot...

 

   I have noticed this seems to be a common occurrence on this ASEANOW forum , namely ; *If I haven't seen it, it hasnt happened *

[Tony125]

On 7/22/2021 at 7:18 PM, bkk6060 said:

Of course it will open again.

It has been rated the number one male entertainment place in the world by many publications over the years.  There are millions of males all over the world who have come here and will continue to come in the future their desire for female company is not going to suddenly stop.

It looks bad now but places like Soi 6 can get going again in about a week. I bet it does not take long to pull up a metal door, stock a place with booze and get girls back here.  Many of the other places are still open even today in and around Soi Buakhao, Soi honey, etc. and others could be fully opened quickly.

Same LK Metro.  Walking Street I have no idea I have not gone for years I think a tourist trap but many love it and it is pretty much a must see for visitors here.

Pattaya will come back sooner then some think unless all these vaccines are full of salt peter and it permanently kills the sex drives of men all around the world.  Let's hope not.

 

[Knocker33]

So when you think about the Chinese are to blame. First with their mass follow the flag tours through town and then the Chinese flu.

[peterrabbit]

Thai household debt is at 90+% of GDP.

 

The pawnbrokers (grass route indicators) say that the general populace has pawned everything they have and that this is even worst than the 1997 Asian financial crisis. No one is buying from their shops.

 

The small and medium sized businesses. that took decades to create and flourish, have been destroyed. 

Most of the owners have no capital or cash left to finance their reopening.

 

Without some form of "Marshall Plan" to kick start small businesses then it will take years for them to come back. Does anyone see this Government initiating such a plan?

 

Thailand is the most unequal country in the world for the distribution of wealth, with a small number owning 90% of the Country's wealth.

 

With millions of people who had money, property, security, status, now being reduced to paupers, there will be a groundswell of resentment and hatred against the Authorities, mainly due to their indifference to the common people. Most of these disadvantaged people were motivated to do something with their lives and not just village "wasters", they are doers not just talkers. Now they have nothing left to loose, and desperate, motivated people without anything to loose are a very dangerous prospect for the status quo.

 

I don't believe Thailand will simply go back to same, same after this experience. I believe it will become a tinderbox and a revolution for change. I believe that the vast majority of the populace will no long accept the rule of the Bangkok Elite, either directly or indirectly through their proxies.

 

As with so many Countries and their leaders in this crisis, the current leadership is now moribund. It's how things develop from now on that decides what changes will happen in Thailand. The only thing that is certain is that there will be a new Thailand reborn from these ashes, but no-one can say how, when, how painful a birth it will be, or if it will be a better Country or not.

 

[3NUMBAS]

On 7/23/2021 at 6:37 AM, lanng khao said:

There's hundreds of thousands of middle aged men spread around the globe who haven't cleared their chest for 18 months, Pattaya will be back..

their chests are likely to very wheezy these  days ..they wont be able to make it

 

dirty money will always find a way to patters, from russia with love

[3NUMBAS]

like rebuilding Germany after ww2

[3NUMBAS]

it wlll chug along with a few stragglers but its glory days are well and gone

 

buffalos will graze again in soi bukao for all time...condos will be hen coops in the sky

Edited July 24, 2021 by 3NUMBAS