Tony125 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, ignis said: NOT ME...Some of us have severe allergic reaction to Vaccines from childhood, Did have the Flu jab 20 years ago, and still 20 years later have some of the side effects, as with all Vaccines also some medication that have been prescribed over the years, often wonder how many weeks I have spent in ICU/Hospital because of severe allergic reaction in the past 70 years You are aware that the Mrna vaccines are made differently than the old vaccines, you can tell a Dr. about your reactions to past meds/vaccine and they will tell you which of the current vaccines you can take without an alergic reaction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 21 minutes ago, Tony125 said: You are aware that the Mrna vaccines are made differently than the old vaccines, you can tell a Dr. about your reactions to past meds/vaccine and they will tell you which of the current vaccines you can take without an alergic reaction. Both my Dr and the Specialist he sent me to. said to give this Vaccine a miss. I did have part 1 of the pneumonia vaccine 9 months ago = in a Coma in ICU + 4 nights in Hospital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Impossible to equate covid booster and the flu jab. I can go about everyday life without the flu jab but not so with covid. Well that and the fact we are on the grips of a COVID pandemic, not a Flu pandemic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, ignis said: Both my Dr and the Specialist he sent me to. said to give this Vaccine a miss. I did have part 1 of the pneumonia vaccine 9 months ago = in a Coma in ICU + 4 nights in Hospital The upshot of that is, your personal safety from COVID is dependent on sufficient numbers of others being vaccinated such as to drive the COVID R0. below 1. You are an example of the vulnerable people who are protected by mass vaccination of others. I did my bit, I got my shots. Stay safe. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niccodemi Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 6:32 PM, Golden Triangle said: This is for all you antivaxxers, you don't seem to realise that although you refuse to join society as a whole & use the hackneyed phrase ' we don't know how this will affect us in years to come ', yet you want to go to bars, use the shops that I or my mrs use, go get a massage, go to the gym or cinema or a 100 other things that people like to do. Well I don't want you spreading the foul disease anywhere near me thanks and prefer you stay in the confines of your room, condo or house, shop online and drink alone at home, because you are all social lepers. And I really am a believer that immigration should ensure your compliance by refusing to extend your stay in the kingdom if you refuse to conform to society and get the necessary 2 shots, unless it's a one shot vaccine of course. And the vaccinated individuals are not spreading the "foul" disease to others? Hint 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, niccodemi said: And the vaccinated individuals are not spreading the "foul" disease to others? Hint I'm well aware of that study, I was referring to people who won't vaccinate but want to ditch masks, open bars and carry on as before with no thought for the safety or wellbeing of those with compromised immune systems or carry a higher risk due to underlying problems before the majority have had the chance to be fully vaccinated. And different studies conclude different things - some say the viral load is less etc etc, so nothing is set in stone as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said: I was referring to people who won't vaccinate but want to ditch masks, open bars and carry on as before with no thought for the safety or wellbeing of those with compromised immune systems or carry a higher risk due to underlying problems before the majority have had the chance to be fully vaccinated. You'd think the sick could avoid going to bars. Maybe stay at home and take a few precautions to protect themselves. Especially now the CDC says vaccination doesn't stop transmission. (As demonstrated by the 12 fully vaccinated restaurant staff in Hua Hin all diagnosed with COVID) As for vaccination, If someone were to turn up at my door with a free vaccination and a document accepted by the UK government as 'proof of vaccination' allowing me to re-enter the UK without quarantine, I'd probably say OK. But as it stands I'd need to be re-vaccinated again in the UK for it to count. Edited September 30, 2021 by BritManToo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 35 minutes ago, niccodemi said: And the vaccinated individuals are not spreading the "foul" disease to others? Hint Did you read the article before posting? Vaccinated individuals who suffer breakthrough infections can carry as high a viral load as non vaccinated. 1. Breakthrough infections are the small number of of vaccinated people who get sick with COVID - already significantly less than unvaccinated people. 2. ‘Can carry as high a viral load’ is not ‘do always carry the same viral load’. 3. ‘Viral load’ is not transmission of infection. 4 The evidence is consistently mounting, vaccinations are drastically reducing the spread of this wretched disease: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: 1. Breakthrough infections are the small number of of vaccinated people who get sick with COVID - already significantly less than unvaccinated people. It would be interesting to relate this to the 12 fully vaccinated but infected staff at the Hua Hin restaurant. Small number ........ I wonder how many staff there were, and what percentage were infected. Let's hope 'small number' is not equal to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaiyaTH Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) Got a friend who felt forced and got double vaxxed in Europe, returned just a month after Phuket sandbox and is now in a BKK hospital with covid. So much for the brilliant experimental vaccines. Edited September 30, 2021 by ChaiyaTH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 News from UK that vaccines do a lot to prevent infection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2021 45 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said: Got a friend who felt forced and got double vaxxed in Europe, returned just a month after Phuket sandbox and is now in a BKK hospital with covid. So much for the brilliant experimental vaccines. This is why scientist examine data, not anecdotes. It’s also why scientists examine the source and veracity of data before applying it in their research. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 55 minutes ago, BritManToo said: It would be interesting to relate this to the 12 fully vaccinated but infected staff at the Hua Hin restaurant. Small number ........ I wonder how many staff there were, and what percentage were infected. Let's hope 'small number' is not equal to everyone. It would be even more interesting to know what vaccine they had, when they had it and the outcome of their infections. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 China Vaccine Diplomacy Wavers as Nations Seek Western Shots https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/china-vaccine-diplomacy-wavers-nations-035710049.html Coronavirus can transform pancreas cell function; certain genes may protect an infected person's spouse https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-transform-pancreas-cell-function-200111820.html A big new study from Oxford University confirms the bad news about long Covid https://qz.com/2065959/oxford-study-finds-long-covid-symptoms-in-one-third-of-cases/?utm_source=YPL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted September 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 hours ago, niccodemi said: And the vaccinated individuals are not spreading the "foul" disease to others? Hint And hospital ICU's aren't being overwhelmed because of the refusal of so many not to vaccinate? Care isn't being rationed because of them? What is so difficult to understand that the overwhelming majority those with life-threatening symptoms or deaths from Covid are among the unvaccinated? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 hours ago, niccodemi said: And the vaccinated individuals are not spreading the "foul" disease to others? Hint Breakthrough COVID Infections: How Long Are Vaccinated People Contagious? https://www.yahoo.com/news/breakthrough-covid-infections-long-vaccinated-094519817.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said: Got a friend who felt forced and got double vaxxed in Europe, returned just a month after Phuket sandbox and is now in a BKK hospital with covid. So much for the brilliant experimental vaccines. Breakthrough cases do occur - and the elderly are still highly susceptible even if they are fully vaccinated. This experiment has well over a billion participants and they are effective in reducing deaths and hospitalisations. Don't worry, you will get your immunity one way or another. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cdemundo Posted September 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2021 6 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said: Got a friend who felt forced and got double vaxxed in Europe, returned just a month after Phuket sandbox and is now in a BKK hospital with covid. So much for the brilliant experimental vaccines. What about the friend of your brother-in-law's dentist? How is he doing? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 10:21 PM, thailanddogerator said: it would be sad to inject what I do not need because I have no social life with anyone and anyway plan to wear a mask forever. Not much chance of getting a social life is you are always masked, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Seems to have gone off topic. Are foreigners going to be told to get a vaccine for their visas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted September 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2021 7 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said: Got a friend who felt forced and got double vaxxed in Europe, returned just a month after Phuket sandbox and is now in a BKK hospital with covid. So much for the brilliant experimental vaccines. Thank you for your report from the distinguished medical journal I Have A Friend Who... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Neeranam said: Seems to have gone off topic. Are foreigners going to be told to get a vaccine for their visas? It would not bother me the least if they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Neeranam said: Not much chance of getting a social life is you are always masked, Some of the public health measures to fight this wretched disease have negatively impacted my social life; specifically lockdowns, closure of bars, restaurants and cafes. I can’t think of any instance of face masks restricting my social life. They have however introduced the occasional instance of ‘eye flirting’, which has brightened one or two days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Neeranam said: Seems to have gone off topic. Are foreigners going to be told to get a vaccine for their visas? If they were to do that then I would think the same would stand for all foreigners entering Thailand, It's OK if they would put an end to the COE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood1 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: It would not bother me the least if they did. I think anyone what wants a vax should be forced against their will not to get one... It would not bother me the least if this happened... 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood1 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Tony125 said: China Vaccine Diplomacy Wavers as Nations Seek Western Shots https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/china-vaccine-diplomacy-wavers-nations-035710049.html Coronavirus can transform pancreas cell function; certain genes may protect an infected person's spouse https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-transform-pancreas-cell-function-200111820.html A big new study from Oxford University confirms the bad news about long Covid https://qz.com/2065959/oxford-study-finds-long-covid-symptoms-in-one-third-of-cases/?utm_source=YPL Well with all this bad news I sure hope you plan the keep wearing your mask for a very long time... Edited October 1, 2021 by redwood1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone Else Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, redwood1 said: I think anyone what wants a vax should be forced against their will not to get one... It would not bother me the least if this happened... Seems like the antivax crusaders don't actually respect the "freedom" and "personal choice" they are supposedly advocating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood1 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Someone Else said: Seems like the antivax crusaders don't actually respect the "freedom" and "personal choice" they are supposedly advocating. Please look up the meaning of the word... Sarcastic.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone Else Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, redwood1 said: Please look up the meaning of the word... Sarcastic.... More like...trolling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, redwood1 said: I think anyone what wants a vax should be forced against their will not to get one... It would not bother me the least if this happened... Hundreds of millions, if not billions of people don’t yet have access to the vaccines, they are dying at the same rate as those who choose not to get the vaccine, tragically, those currently denied access to vaccines are also very often denied access to hospitals and medical services. As with much of self centered ‘me’ thinking, it’s founded on the privileges of wealth and the benefits of a society that looks after individuals no matter what part they play in creating their own need for help. Edited October 1, 2021 by Chomper Higgot 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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