China says criticisms of vaccine hurt its goodwill

[webfact]

 

The continuing questioning of the efficacy of the Chinese-made Sinovac Covid-19 vaccine has drawn the ire of China whose Embassy in Bangkok said it hurts China’s goodwill to help Thailand’s fight against the pandemic, triggering a heated debate on the social media.

 

The Embassy of the People’s Republic of China over the weekend issued a statement on its Facebook to refute persistent claims by critics of the Prayut government that the Chinese vaccine is not effective against the virus.   Similar claims were repeated by many of the opposition MPs during the no-confidence debate in the House of Representatives against Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha and Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul last week.

 

It said the vaccine has been approved by the World Health Organization for emergency use and approved by Thailand’s Food and Drug Administration.  It also pointed out that studies by public health agencies in Chile and Indonesia showed that Sinovac was 86 per cent and 95 per cent effective respectively in dealing with mutated variants of the virus, “which proves it’s not low-quality vaccine as alleged.”

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/china-says-criticisms-of-vaccine-hurt-its-goodwill/

 

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It's true that the vaccine peformed very well against the earlier variants. But so far no large scale real world studies have been completed on how well it performs against the delta variant. And the fact is that China has never released all the final data on its Phase 3 trial and waited until May 27, 2021 to release even preliminary data. As long as China won't commit to transparency - and that seems unlikely give the nature of the regime - it's going to continue to encounter this kind of problem.

And it certainly isn't helping its case by the implied threat behind the statement that criticisms of the vaccines are hurting its goodwill. 

[Bluespunk]

8 minutes ago, webfact said:

The continuing questioning of the efficacy of the Chinese-made Sinovac Covid-19 vaccine has drawn the ire of China whose Embassy in Bangkok said it hurts China’s goodwill to help Thailand’s fight against the pandemic

Oh grow up China...

[Denim]

Ah.....didums,.............poor China,  the country that gives and gives.

[tomacht8]

China's "goodwill" sounds like the vaccines are gifts. Rather the opposite. Thailand paid significantly higher prices per dose for the vaccines than other countries.

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3 minutes ago, petermik said:

Really?

Flu strains typically begin in China and spread elsewhere. Is the Chinese govt unleashing the flu as well?

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2 minutes ago, calbts2 said:

Yeah and just because China produces a vaccine doesn't mean that it works effectively and does not deserve criticism.

 

Doesn't that observation apply to every country? And keep in mind that in the case of Sinovac its vaccine was produced by a company that's located in China but it's not the Chinese govt.

[jollyhangmon]

... 555, GFY!

 

[mtls2005]

China coming across as whiny is a bad look.

 

 

[fondue zoo]

awwww... somebody has a boo boo

 

sheesh

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Just now, mtls2005 said:

China coming across as whiny is a bad look.

 

 

I think it's worse than that. Seems more like a threat than a whine. 

[robblok]

Make a better quality vaccine and you don't get criticism . Show your data just like US and European countries did. What is wrong with stating that a vaccine is less effective then other ones. Why should the truth be hidden.

 

China needs to grow up and learn that unlike in their own country they can't silence people outside their country. 

[calbts2]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Doesn't that observation apply to every country? And keep in mind that in the case of Sinovac its vaccine was produced by a company that's located in China but it's not the Chinese govt.

I'm not quite sure what point you are trying to prove here but first if you think the Chinese government does not have their hands involved in many if not the majority of large Chinese corporations - especially the one that produces the vaccine - then you are either very naive or a Chinese Communist government apologist.

[BobinBKK]

21 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Oh grow up China...

Yeah my heart breaks for them... 555

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2 minutes ago, calbts2 said:

I'm not quite sure what point you are trying to prove here but first if you think the Chinese government does not have their hands involved in many if not the majority of large Chinese corporations - especially the one that produces the vaccine - then you are either very naive or a Chinese Communist government apologist.

Obviously they're going to play a role since they have to approve the vaccine. And no doubt the Chinese govt is increasingl interfering with the way private enterprises are run in China. But that doesn't mean that this company is an agent of China. And now that you've outed me, Comrade Xi is probably not going to give me my Xmas bonus. Thanks a bunch.

[BobinBKK]

20 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Because the virus originated in China doesn't mean that the Chinese govt unleashed it.

The lack of food safety regulations dictate otherwise on what the "Chinese govt unleashed", period! Where did you think defecating in the streets and eating things not made for human consumption was going to get them?

[jacko45k]

Boo Hoo

[thaitom]

18 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Doesn't that observation apply to every country? And keep in mind that in the case of Sinovac its vaccine was produced by a company that's located in China but it's not the Chinese govt.

The government owns it all, no one owns anything.

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1 minute ago, BobinBKK said:

The lack of food safety regulations dictate otherwise on what the "Chinese govt unleashed", period! Where did you think defecating in the streets and eating things not made for human consumption was going to get them?

Well their lack of sanitary practices may have led to the rise of the virus but that is hardly is proof of intention. and the Chinese people have a long history of eating all kinds of things that you or I wouldn't eat.  Don't know that means that they weren't made for human consumption. Of course, if you're an observant jew or muslim, you might think differently.

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2 minutes ago, thaitom said:

The government owns it all, no one owns anything.

It's true that the Chinese govt can take whatever it wants pretty much at will. That doesn't mean that no one owns anything. Get a grip.

[mokwit]

Over the years I have formed the opinion that banks and China are only ever acting in their own interest, despite trying to project an image of the opposite.

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2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Over the years I have formed the opinion that banks and China are only ever acting in their own interest, despite trying to project an image of the opposite.

Whatever the faults of the Chinese govt, and they are legion, I think you'll find that it's not at all unusual for a nation only ever to act in a way that furthers its own interests. Some have a more enlightened take on what their own interests are than others.

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[VocalNeal]

China could provide medical evidence instead of relying on diplomats to plead their case?

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

37 minutes ago, Denim said:

poor China,  the country that gives and gives

The gift that keeps on giving! ????????????????

[mokwit]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Whatever the faults of the Chinese govt, and they are legion, I think you'll find that it's not at all unusual for a nation only ever to act in a way that furthers its own interests. Some have a more enlightened take on what their own interests are than others.

It's the pretence that they are doing it through the goodness of their heart as friends that offends me, although in fairness I did not delineate that in my post.

[tingtong]

The world says the lies, delays, barriers China put up to deny and delay any investigation into the covid virus origin already hurt most goodwill ...

 

 

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

14 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Over the years I have formed the opinion that banks and China are only ever acting in their own interest, despite trying to project an image of the opposite.

From YT, give it a watch. Each cube is $1 billion USD in cash. Absolutely staggering. #1 is the ICBC with $4.3T.

 

Many wonder just how they do it, or how much of it's to be believed.

[sungod]

40 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Flu strains typically begin in China and spread elsewhere. Is the Chinese govt unleashing the flu as well?

If they co-operate fully with the WHO they would have a chance to plead their case. However they have blocked phase 2 of the investigation.

 

Find that strange?

[Scott]

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[BobinBKK]

32 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well their lack of sanitary practices may have led to the rise of the virus but that is hardly is proof of intention.

One simple word applies here, "negligence".