COVID-19 Center: situation on the decline

[snoop1130]

 

BANGKOK(NNT) - The Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) says the COVID-19 situation in Thailand is finally on the decline

 

According to Dr. Chavetsan Namwat from Department of Disease Control, the situation in Thailand is getting better, in line with the global situation, especially in Bangkok and its neighboring provinces, while patients with severe symptoms and needing respirators continue to decline.

 

Dr. Kiatipoom Wongrachit, Permanent Secretary of Public Health Ministry says, in the future, the number of cases will not be an important factor anymore, instead it will be capacity to accommodate patients. He believes cases will not decline to zero, but it would be treated as endemic, or a non-widespread local disease without severity and with distribution of vaccines as the main solution.

 

The " local disease" treatment will start in Bangkok and Phuket, in which different management will be applied.

 

Meanwhile, The Thai Cabinet this week approved a draft amendment to the 2015 Communicable Disease Act, to replace the emergency decree, likely from next month.

 

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[RotBenz8888]

46 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

 He believes cases will not decline to zero,

So they've finally given up that fantasy? 

[ukrules]

10 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The " local disease" treatment will start in Bangkok and Phuket, in which different management will be applied.

Sounds to me like they're about to give up on the covid prisons.

 

If true then that's a step away from the Chinese model and towards normality.

 

[brucegoniners]

The question is, do you believe anything they say?

[jacko45k]

I had to read on to learn if he meant things getting better or worse, such is the cynicism.

Well they make the decisions, how about a shorter curfew, and restaurants can serve drinks to start off October with!

 

[cclub75]

23 minutes ago, brucegoniners said:

The question is, do you believe anything they say?

No. Zero chance.

 

Singapore had the same language... several months ago...

 

And now they "plunge" again into the delirium (work from home, schools online etc.) because of "new cases" (asymptomatic most of them).

 

Source : https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/work-from-home-to-be-the-default-for-a-month-from-sept-27-moh

 

 And despite the fact that their population is massively vaccinated.

 

The question is very simple. You are a governor of a small province. Then you learn that a few cases have been found in a factory, in a school, on a market etc.

 

What will you do ?

 

YOU WILL CLOSE. CLOSE. AND CLOSE AGAIN. that's the only reaction you are wired to have to have (save face, do not take any risk, to look good, to show that you care etc.).

 

There is no way that the rational reasoning, showed by this Bangkok elite doctor, will be applied on the ground, in Thailand.

Edited September 25, 2021 by cclub75

[hotchilli]

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

According to Dr. Chavetsan Namwat from Department of Disease Control, the situation in Thailand is getting better, in line with the global situation, especially in Bangkok and its neighboring provinces, while patients with severe symptoms and needing respirators continue to decline

They say infection levels are dropping, yet I see & know of more people in home isolation than before, with new clusters everywhere?

[hioctane]

16 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

They say infection levels are dropping, yet I see & know of more people in home isolation than before, with new clusters everywhere?

There will always be scared people, but the vaccinated should be allowed out.

[Daithi85]

39 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

They say infection levels are dropping, yet I see & know of more people in home isolation than before, with new clusters everywhere?

I bet your making up that little story. 

[rughead]

still have high increasing numbers in deep south , according to daily government figures , 5 provinces on deep red zone , infection numbers have not decreased 

[actonion]

Wish this government were on the decline

[edwinchester]

59 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

They say infection levels are dropping, yet I see & know of more people in home isolation than before, with new clusters everywhere?

Same here, never knew of any local infections here in the village a few months ago but recently there have been many, even people we know and a local isolation center has opened just a couple of km's away.

This is in Kanchanaburi.

[dougiemac52]

Yes they thought that was the case in the USA 3 months ago, but figures on the rise. Masks back on etc.

The fact Thailand have dealt with the situation poorly they should not be making rash statements, like we will be fully open on 1st October, not. Easier to say nothing when you cannot prove the facts 

[Benmart]

I don't believe words coming from those who are contrilled by government, and some who are not.

[timmyp]

Once it has spread through the population, it is here to say. It will spread, rising and falling in cycles as all viruses do, independent of lockdowns or mask mandates.

 

But if lockdowns and mask mandates are put into place, then once the spread drops as it naturally will, the gov will say, "Our lockdowns have clearly worked." And when the spread seems unhindered by lockdowns and mask mandates, then the anti-lockdown people will be blamed. This nicely keeps the population focused on attacking each other, rather than directing all their energy at the massive mistakes that the gov made.

[Grusa]

The inevitable end of declination is death!

[Almer]

3 hours ago, Daithi85 said:

I bet your making up that little story. 

My wife got facebook this morning with an apology from a village (small) resident who has brought covid into the village, there are others in the village who are quarantined after family returned from deep red, and that is what is known, and i am not making this up. 

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, edwinchester said:

Same here, never knew of any local infections here in the village a few months ago but recently there have been many, even people we know and a local isolation center has opened just a couple of km's away.

This is in Kanchanaburi.

Yeah, I'm a tad east from you, 6 months ago we only heard of people around us having an infection or an area like a market, that's when it changed to deep red, now there are people in Sois all around us, even a neighbour and a family across the street, all in home isolation yet they say numbers are falling.

It doesn't add up in my book.

[miketu]

5 hours ago, hioctane said:

There will always be scared people, but the vaccinated should be allowed out.

It's the vaccinated who are the super spreaders of covid, not the unvaccinated.  The hospitals in Israel and Iceland have overwhelmingly more vaccinated patients with covid than un-vaccinated.  Both of these countries have 80 to 90% vaccination rates, someone's lying to us.  The Vaccinated are spreading covid through the shedding of spike proteins from their bodies as a result of their covid vaccination.  

Edited September 25, 2021 by miketu

[digger70]

COVID-19 Center: situation on the decline. 

 

Don't talk to soon ,things can change overnight wait till they open the country for a month then you can talk.

[Yorkshire Tea]

Just now, digger70 said:

COVID-19 Center: situation on the decline. 

 

Don't talk to soon ,things can change overnight wait till they open the country for a month then you can talk.

Schools ain't back yet!

[GrandPapillon]

21 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

So they've finally given up that fantasy? 

zero covid was a pipe dream from day 1, it took 9 months for western governments to get that clue

 

only Australia and NZ still believe in that fairy tale,

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, miketu said:

It's the vaccinated who are the super spreaders of covid, not the unvaccinated.  The hospitals in Israel and Iceland have overwhelmingly more vaccinated patients with covid than un-vaccinated.  Both of these countries have 80 to 90% vaccination rates, someone's lying to us.  The Vaccinated are spreading covid through the shedding of spike proteins from their bodies as a result of their covid vaccination.  

Boy I would love to see you support this with data, expert opinion, news reports etc.

Edited September 25, 2021 by dinsdale

[Knocker33]

23 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

So they've finally given up that fantasy? 

Unlike Australia who are reverting back to a  draconian penal colony, police state attitude  for that Illusive zero cases

Edited September 25, 2021 by Knocker33

[kimamey]

4 hours ago, miketu said:

It's the vaccinated who are the super spreaders of covid, not the unvaccinated.  The hospitals in Israel and Iceland have overwhelmingly more vaccinated patients with covid than un-vaccinated.  Both of these countries have 80 to 90% vaccination rates, someone's lying to us.  The Vaccinated are spreading covid through the shedding of spike proteins from their bodies as a result of their covid vaccination.  

Vaccinations slow transmission and reduce the chance of infection and severe symptoms including death. They don't stop it. The more vaccinated people you have the the greater the  proportion of infected people that are vaccinated will be. 

I'll try to find a link to an article about this.

[RotBenz8888]

22 minutes ago, Knocker33 said:

Unlike Australia who are reverting back to a  draconian penal colony, police state attitude  for that Illusive zero cases

Truly mind-boggling. 

[Blumpie]

This is far from an endemic in Thailand.  The good news is the vaccines are working and being used.  

I look forward to it being treated as a true endemic once the vaccination rate improves greatly.  It is so good to see things at least getting better - that was a brutal wave!

[JayClay]

5 hours ago, miketu said:

The hospitals in Israel and Iceland have overwhelmingly more vaccinated patients with covid than un-vaccinated

Hmmm I wonder why that might be....

 

5 hours ago, miketu said:

Both of these countries have 80 to 90% vaccination rates

...ahhh thanks for clearing that up!

[thaipara]

14 hours ago, miketu said:

The hospitals in Israel and Iceland have overwhelmingly more vaccinated patients with covid than un-vaccinated.  Both of these countries have 80 to 90% vaccination rates, someone's lying to us.

50% of auto fatalities happen to people wearing seat belts and 90% of people wear seat belts (US numbers). Should one conclude from this that wearing seat belts doesn't matter? 

[jacko45k]

15 hours ago, GrandPapillon said:

zero covid was a pipe dream from day 1, it took 9 months for western governments to get that clue

 

only Australia and NZ still believe in that fairy tale,

I suspect Australia has had a shift in faith......