Why Do You Stay?

[HappyGoLuckyLife]

This is not meant to be a flame post. Looking for serious answers.

 

As a recent member to the forums, I've been reading through the various threads. There's a diverse group here. I can say that for sure. However I have a question for members, who at least on the surface come off as really hating their lives in living in Thailand. I am not sure if this has been pre pandemic, or it's been that way for a while. But I really want to know, if Thailand is as bad, anti-farang, dangerous, miserable (insert adjective here) place to be, then why are you still here? What makes you stay in spite of feeling such misery. I am only trying to understand where it all went to hell for some of you. Care to share?

[BritManToo]

Old people are generally unhappy because they're old and their bodies are failing.

Doesn't matter where they are.

[Mac Mickmanus]

People generally enjoy moaning and complaining about things . Its much easier to moan and complain, rather than giving a reasoned  view 

[tonray]

Seedless lime value packs at Big-C keep me here....at least triple the price in America

[seedy]

I like it.

If I did not I would leave.

Those who P and M will do the same wherever they are.

You Want to be Happy - Be Happy

It REALLY is that simple

[Thaiwrath]

Climate and cost of living, the same 2 reasons I moved here.

 

Just because people live here, it doesn't mean they have to love everything about the place.

I despise the current government, but I try not to let it affect me too much, and hope that once these clowns are voted, or thrown, out, the whole country will be happier. 

[HappyGoLuckyLife]

7 minutes ago, seedy said:

You Want to be Happy - Be Happy

It REALLY is that simple

Your lips to the good lord's ears on that one.

[HappyGoLuckyLife]

19 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Old people are generally unhappy because they're old and their bodies are failing.

So I need to find the Fountain of Youth?

[HappyGoLuckyLife]

12 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

People generally enjoy moaning and complaining about things .

That's one thing I don't get. Life is too short. And since when don't know when our timecard is punched, it could be shorter than what we think. I wish we all can leave each moment as if it were our last. Because one day, it just might be our last.

Edited October 11, 2021 by HappyGoLuckyLife

[bkk6060]

Not everyone complains but it seems consistent with people from places known as "a country of complainers".  Many negative, low money and depressed with no personal future they seem to think Thailand owes them something.

Edited October 11, 2021 by bkk6060

[robblok]

1 minute ago, Thaiwrath said:

Climate and cost of living, the same 2 reasons I moved here.

 

Just because people live here, it doesn't mean they have to love everything about the place.

I despise the current government, but I try not to let it affect me too much, and hope that once these clowns are voted, or thrown, out, the whole country will be happier. 

Good sentiment, but the government does not really affect me. Before I thought it did but it did not. I have the same anti government feelings for the current ones as their PTP counterparts. All of them are incompetent and in it for the money. Once you realize that you will see the similarities between the two. It stopped me from stressing about who is in power knowing the next mob will be stealing lying and incompetent no matter who they are. Only things that influence me are the actions of governments that directly hit me. 

[robblok]

Just now, bkk6060 said:

Not everyone complains but it seems consistent with people from places know as "a country of complainers".  Negative, low money and depressed they seem to think Thailand owes them something.

Lot of people think Thailand owes them free healthcare as they pay so much in Thailand ????

[CharlieH]

The decisions made as a 50 yr old dont always sit with a 65 yr old, but the bed has been mde so they lie in it.

Some have gone "all in " and basically would be going back to nothing and no one, the country they knew is long gone.

Better the devil you know for many. Like or not it is there home now.

[HappyGoLuckyLife]

4 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said:

I despise the current government, but I try not to let it affect me too much,

The one thing about governments, we replace something we don't like with someone we don't like, and when we find something we do like, the other side doesn't like it. I agree with you that you can't let it affect you too much or harden your heart.

[HappyGoLuckyLife]

2 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Not everyone complains but it seems consistent with people from places known as "a country of complainers".  Many negative, low money and depressed with no personal future they seem to think Thailand owes them something.

One thing I learned early on, no one owes us anything. With that, we make best do with what we have and appreciate having even that. I would have to say that is the one thing Thailand has taught me more so than anywhere else.

[CharlieH]

2 minutes ago, HappyGoLuckyLife said:

The one thing about governments, we replace something we don't like with someone we don't like, and when we find something we do like, the other side doesn't like it. I agree with you that you can't let it affect you too much or harden your heart.

Except in this country you have no voice, no vote. Stressing over something which you have absolutely no control nor influence  over is just  pointless.

[HappyGoLuckyLife]

3 minutes ago, robblok said:

Lot of people think Thailand owes them free healthcare as they pay so much in Thailand ????

Unfortunately that will never happen. I think the position is YOU are choosing to live here, so you need to make sure you can take care of yourself.

[robblok]

4 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

The decisions made as a 50 yr old dont always sit with a 65 yr old, but the bed has been mde so they lie in it.

Some have gone "all in " and basically would be going back to nothing and no one, the country they knew is long gone.

Better the devil you know for many. Like or not it is there home now.

The part that sucks is all the rules and the visa stuff and so on. But once you complied with that its pretty ok to live here. 

 

But your right decisions made way back might be different now. But who knows how you liked the old country. I like most things here but there is no perfect fit anywhere. 

[HappyGoLuckyLife]

5 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Better the devil you know for many.

I totally can understand what you're saying here. And what you said made a lot a sense. The thoughts and plans you have at the age you start may not align with your future self. With that said, by the time you look up, the world you once knew already moved on. So you live where and what you know.

[ezzra]

The op probably hasn't gone back far enough reading of the many, many posts as to why people stay where they are...

[robblok]

2 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Except in this country you have no voice, no vote. Stressing over something which you have absolutely no control nor influence  over is just  pointless.

I stressed (not exactly stressed) but got worked up about all the lies and corruption in Thailand. When I arrived it was Thaksin time and he lied and cheated (just like the current mob). Back then it affected me more as I was used to clean politicians. For a long time I was under the impression (wrongfully) that an other government would be cleaner. 

 

Having now seen Prayut I know its not true, and they are all doing the same stupid things. The things that bothered me about Thaksin and his clones are the same that bother me now about Prayut. But at this point I have accepted that the lies and cheating politicians get away with it and journalist won't stick their neck out.

 

(think about the test kids that were bought too expensive and the government organization that would test them but that did not happen even though some hospitals now complain about the high fault rate those kind of things would not have been let go in my country)

[HappyGoLuckyLife]

4 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Stressing over something which you have absolutely no control nor influence  over is just  pointless.

You are absolutely right. I have my opinions when it comes to politics, both here in the U.S. and abroad in Thailand. Here, I know I have an opportunity to voice that. There, I know that while I can feel as passionate about the political situation, as a guest there at the whim of the government at the time, my opinion is best kept to myself.

[HappyGoLuckyLife]

2 minutes ago, ezzra said:

The op probably hasn't gone back far enough reading of the many, many posts as to why people stay where they are...

I'm working on it. But it's sooo much information here! 

[DavisH]

40 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Old people are generally unhappy because they're old and their bodies are failing.

Doesn't matter where they are.

They would be the same grumpy lecel in their own country. Some people are never happy anywhere. Then they die. That must be a sad way to live. 

[CharlieH]

3 minutes ago, HappyGoLuckyLife said:

You are absolutely right. I have my opinions when it comes to politics, both here in the U.S. and abroad in Thailand. Here, I know I have an opportunity to voice that. There, I know that while I can feel as passionate about the political situation, as a guest there at the whim of the government at the time, my opinion is best kept to myself.

In my view politics the world over is the same, they all promise the earth to get into office then do whatever feathers their nest. Then every few years its rinse and repeat.

Thailand is run on corruption, its a part of life here  where cash rules.That wont change in my kifetime or beyond.

Understand the nature of the beast ! It will not effect your day to day living anyway (for most).

[EVENKEEL]

8 minutes ago, HappyGoLuckyLife said:

You are absolutely right. I have my opinions when it comes to politics, both here in the U.S. and abroad in Thailand. Here, I know I have an opportunity to voice that. There, I know that while I can feel as passionate about the political situation, as a guest there at the whim of the government at the time, my opinion is best kept to myself.

Yeah, you're not allowed to voice anything political here about US, don't want to offend. 

[HeijoshinCool]

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The people you refer to were worthless whiners in their homelands and will be worthless whiners anywhere they go.

 

Even Heaven will be a horrible, poorly managed, idiot-occupied venue for them.....

 

Not that many of them will make it there.

[HappyGoLuckyLife]

2 minutes ago, DavisH said:

Some people are never happy anywhere. Then they die. That must be a sad way to live. 

I think that can be true for some, but what I am seeing is that some of the unhappiness comes from a sense of weariness about a person's position in life. My wish for everyone is to have at least one slice of happiness in their lives, whatever it may be, to at least have had that moment to live. You're comment gave me the feels over here. LOL.

[Rampant Rabbit]

I spent 5  hours  bashing my head  against a  wall............. I  still  have no answer

[MRToMRT]

In defence of the older posters (of which I am one). They experienced a different Thailand, a more 3rd world, on the edge, ruralistic, culturally dependent, cheaper, base, developing Thailand than exists today. They simply miss those days and times. The times when Thailand was a thrilling foreign and cultural experience to the young foreigner, not the standard internationalised concrete culturally devoid capitalistic template it offers today like most other places.