Hacked off with cashless payment.

[KarenBravo]

Before - So.....there you are at the check-out. The woman in front of you has had all her items checked and the cashier is waiting for payment.

To the woman customer, it seems a total surprise. She has to delve into her over-loaded hand-bag, find her wallet and select the notes she wants to use. Should she give a thousand Baht note and get change, or try and pay with all the smaller notes she has accumulated?

Customers behind her are visibly getting impatient.

 

Now - Pays via her telephone. This takes 10 times longer than paying in cash. Customers behind her (me) are getting totally hacked off as she doesn't ever get it right the first time. A 10 minute wait is not unusual.

 

What are the advantages of paying this way? You may think that it's safer because she doesn't have to carry cash. But, this just isn't true. Noodle shops, food carts and the majority of other shops cannot do electronic payment, so she does carry cash, especially for those snacks she'll buy on her way home.

 

So......what the h3ll is the point?

 

From a Luddite cash payer.

[BritManToo]

5 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

Now - Pays via her telephone. This takes 10 times longer than paying in cash. Customers behind her (me) are getting totally hacked off as she doesn't ever get it right the first time. A 10 minute wait is not unusual.

Paying by mobile app is usually much quicker than cash.

Point your phone at the QR code by the checkout, type in the amount and it's done.

A lot of street carts also display QR codes since COVID.

 

Home Mall have removed all their ATMs and ask you to pay by QR code.

They prefer not to take cash payments.

 

You need to learn to move with the times, money is dirty and carries germs.

Edited October 28, 2021 by BritManToo

[CharlieH]

Well, over the years, for me ANY store takes longer to get out of than it did doing the shopping.

Always people waiting, always an issue, finding money , counting money, item wrong, no code, no price and so on.Cant remember ever having an easy flow through.

 

Supermarket staff, why do you have to beep every single item that is the same, why not X 12 or whatever, noooooo, one by one.Then count the money going in 4 times atleast, then count the change anothrr 4 timrs atleast.

Makro, wait for the 20 yr old dot matrix printers to spew out the receipt.

 

The above are just observations of typical issues.

 

Doesnt actually bother me anymore, it is what it is !????

 

 

[KarenBravo]

13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Paying by mobile app is usually much quicker than cash.

Point your phone at the QR code by the checkout, type in the amount and it's done.

A lot of street carts also display QR codes since COVID.

 

Home Mall have removed all their ATMs and ask you to pay by QR code.

They prefer not to take cash payments.

 

You need to learn to move with the times, money is dirty and carries germs.

I have never, ever seen an electronic payment that was faster than cash.

Your post raises an interesting point. Maybe it's the retailers that want you to pay by that method and pressure you to do so.

[bbko]

14 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

A 10 minute wait is not unusual.

Sounds like someone is embellishing their point.  Just today the wife and I were out and needed to fill the empty tank, gas station attendant filled it and showed my wife the amount due, she pulled up her banking app and paid in about 30 seconds.  The same goes when she shops at the morning open markets. 

I'm just glad supermarket shoppers don't whip out their check books anymore. That was an eye-roller for those of us behind them.

[steven100]

it could be worse  .....   she could be paying with food stamps . 

[86Tiger]

 

 

This has been happening since the invention of checkouts and large lady's handbags.

 

 

[stat]

43 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

I have never, ever seen an electronic payment that was faster than cash.

Your post raises an interesting point. Maybe it's the retailers that want you to pay by that method and pressure you to do so.

You have not seen someone pay with a Garmin watch apparently. I have to press 2 buttones while waiting in line, then I just hold the watch in front of the gadget, it beeps after 1 sec and done. Same with Googlepay. Some people dont know how to use it properly, some people have to type in pins. With Garmin you enter the pin on the watch once a day and are all set. If you take the watch off you have to reenter the pin again (checked via Heartrate sensor) . Biggest plus is you can never forget your watch if you never take it off  like me and dont have to look for your mobile????

Edited October 28, 2021 by stat

[chickenslegs]

@KarenBravo Sounds like you were stuck behind my wife, so I apologise. Normally I am shopping with her and I join all the other customers giving her filthy looks and tutting.

Edited October 28, 2021 by chickenslegs
typo

[Saanim]

56 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Makro, wait for the 20 yr old dot matrix printers to spew out the receipt.

Not to speak about the guard at the exit - just another 5 m - who will recheck the receipt whether it complies with the goods in the cart.

[The Hammer2021]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Paying by mobile app is usually much quicker than cash.

Point your phone at the QR code by the checkout, type in the amount and it's done.

A lot of street carts also display QR codes since COVID.

 

Home Mall have removed all their ATMs and ask you to pay by QR code.

They prefer not to take cash payments.

 

You need to learn to move with the times, money is dirty and carries germs.

Before you " point your phone"...What do you do? Open an app presumably. Which app? If so you must log on to the internet first..using the7/11 wifi or your own data? If WiFi who supplies the wifi connection and how long does it take to get and write in the password?

 

Edited October 28, 2021 by The Hammer2021

[KarenBravo]

12 minutes ago, stat said:

You have not seen someone pay with a Garmin watch apparently. I have to press 2 buttones while waiting in line, then I just hold the watch in front of the gadget, it beeps after 1 sec and done. Same with Googlepay. Some people dont know how to use it properly, some people have to type in pins. With Garmin you enter the pin on the watch once a day and are all set. If you take the watch off you have to reenter the pin again (checked via Heartrate sensor) . Biggest plus is you can never forget your watch if you never take it off  like me and dont have to look for your mobile????

.......and then the cashier has to check whether the transaction has gone through.

[PoorSucker]

When I shop at BigC I just blip my SCB debit card, two seconds.

[JackGats]

I wanted to install Samsung Pay on my snartphone to go cashless in Thailand. Guess what, my Galaxy 10+ is not supported by Samsung for Samsung pay!

 

I wanted to set up Rabbit Line with my Bangkok Bank debit card but it said something like "not available in your case".

[david555]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Paying by mobile app is usually much quicker than cash.

Point your phone at the QR code by the checkout, type in the amount and it's done.

A lot of street carts also display QR codes since COVID.

 

Home Mall have removed all their ATMs and ask you to pay by QR code.

They prefer not to take cash payments.

 

You need to learn to move with the times, money is dirty and carries germs.

Prefer the cash dirty or not ....at least I keep it under my own control instead of giving the final control on the electronic digital rulers ....to let it work or not or hacked .

[david555]

8 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

When I shop at BigC I just blip my SCB debit card, two seconds.

How long for eventual hackers to bleep yours ...one day ?????

 

Oh yes i understand now just  the screen name Poor Sucker...????

Edited October 28, 2021 by david555

[PoorSucker]

10 minutes ago, david555 said:

How long for eventual hackers to bleep ...one day ?????

I spent the last year in Sweden.

60% of all payments are done this way now.

80% of all payments are electronic.

 

The max payment for blip without code is 1500 baht per transaktion.

[zzaa09]

The point? 

The attempt to do away with independence and self-sufficiency. 

 

Most are suckers that accept the controlled dependency.

[david555]

7 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

I spent the last year in Sweden.

74% of all payments are done this way now.

I even never use those wireless ATM  machines in Pattaya from Kasikorn ...wireless can be so easy intercepted by those high skilled hacking guy's

Edited October 28, 2021 by david555

[PoorSucker]

2 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

Most are suckers that accept the controlled dependency.

Yes.

[david555]

6 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

The point? 

The attempt to do away with independence and self-sufficiency. 

 

Most are suckers that accept the controlled dependency.

Some dont understand that they give out all their  control ????

Edited October 28, 2021 by david555

[PoorSucker]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

Some dont understand that they give out all control 

I have a degree in computer science since 1991, and this is the way the future is going to be.

Mainly because taking away cash will let governments control monetary flows better.

Untaxable sector will vanish without cash.

[seedy]

WOW - I thought the asteroid killed off the dinosaurs !

[The Hammer2021]

21 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

When I shop at BigC I just blip my SCB debit card, two seconds.

My local supermarket requires chip and pin...no 'touch and go'

[seedy]

Just now, PoorSucker said:

Untaxable sector will vanish without cash.

Somebody forgot to tell the Drug Dealers !!! 555

[richard_smith237]

Not having your ’s#it together’ is a human issue not a cashless payment issue. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[david555]

Just now, PoorSucker said:

I have a degree in computer science since 1991, and this is the way the future is going to be.

Mainly because taking away cash will let governments control monetary flows better.

Untaxable sector will vanish without cash.

I shall keep paying cash for simple shopping and use transfer when applicable .....and those banks have also those with degrees in computer science and still get hacked ....what one person can invented another person might find a work around .....

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

9 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

The point? 

The attempt to do away with independence and self-sufficiency. 

 

Most are suckers that accept the controlled dependency.

 

Sounds like some paranoid ‘the government want to control us all’ spiel... 

 

I’m sure you’d be better off not using money at all and doing away with the double coincidence of want and bartering with pebbles and goods packed away on your cart. 

 

 

 

 

 

[david555]

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Sounds like some paranoid ‘the government want to control us all’ spiel... 

 

I’m sure you’d be better off not using money at all and doing away with the double coincidence of want and bartering with pebbles and goods packed away on your cart. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sounds like some paranoid ‘the government want to control us all’ spiel... 

 

 

Take an example on covid measures and rules .....it is a needed now maybe ....but an excellent rehearsel for crowd control for other moments ....no need to call it parranoia ...it is an o golden chance when needed ....a training session ????

Edited October 28, 2021 by david555

[richard_smith237]

22 minutes ago, david555 said:

How long for eventual hackers to bleep yours ...one day ?????

 

Oh yes i understand now just  the screen name Poor Sucker...????

How long until someone pick-pockets your wallet ?...  mugs you ?

 

Each medium has its advantages and disadvantages but you have conveniently glossed over the disadvantages of carrying cash.