5 minutes ago, Chad3000 said:

One insco didn't pay my FIL 100k bc he didn't have a PCR test despite being taken into field hospital, medical treatment for two weeks. Medicine for covid. Dr signed papers dx covid. Thailand is totally cowboy. Beggars belief especially bc covid is now know to be as much if not more harmful to cardio vascular.

 

Why was he charged in the first place especially in a field hospital? He should have been covered by the government health system.

Just now, Salerno said:

Why was he charged in the first place especially in a field hospital? He should have been covered by the government health system.

They are not but that is beside the point. The insco didn't pay. I bought the policies.

Those with Tourist Visas are Classified “Tourists” regardless of any deeper Long Stay ties here.

Just as those with Non- Immigrant (Retirement) Visas are mostly actual Immigrants with no intention of leaving Thailand but treated/ tolerated as (glorified)Tourists ( Long Stay) although they have effectively Emigrated to Thailand.

1 hour ago, zzzzz said:

do Thais need a pre flight negative covid test

Not according to an earlier announcement by Thai Gov, "No Test Required"

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

Wow!!.....way out.....don't forget there are 6 million Brits alone, 10% of the UK population, booked for the fourth quarter.....place is going to be rammed.

The girls will be so grateful.

7 minutes ago, Chad3000 said:

They are not but that is beside the point. The insco didn't pay. I bought the policies.

Which goes back to my initial point in that case; due diligence.

 

At the start of all this, fair enough, you wouldn't expect asymptomatic to get dragged off to hospital. Now, no excuse for someone flying in to not have it covered.

2 minutes ago, Bobydog said:

Not according to an earlier announcement by Thai Gov, "No Test Required"

Things have moved on; coming back to test and go or sandbox, Thais need PCR test. Quarantine, no, but airlines might have their own requirements.

22 minutes ago, Salerno said:

but airlines might have their own requirements.

That's the point.

1 hour ago, zzzzz said:

do Thais need a pre flight negative covid test

 

No, not for Alternative Quarantine if the airline - like Thai apparently - doesn't explicitly require it ...!

 

 

5 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

That's the point.

What point?

2 hours ago, RBOP said:

So according to those stats 1 in 1,313 are infected on incoming flights. If you are unfortunate to be seated nearby to that infected person you'll be quarantined as well. Thailand is barely 46% vaccinated so testing must continue for all arrivals.  

46% of total population and highly unlikely tourists will be heading to Surin or Nakhon nowhere. In all major tourist destinations 70% at least are vaxed

Good attempt at revamping, but: 

Few tourists, mostly people who live there.

I have no options, my family lives in Thailand. If not because of them,  I would not consider Thailand for my vacation destination.

Simply too many hoops to jump, quarantine of one day, expensive 150USD testing with inconclusive results that will force you stay in quarantine hotel longer( a scam between testing people and hotel operators) and restaurants / bar restrictions and curfew hours. Regulations that very from area to area.

A 10 POSITIVE tests in 13.51

Present covid test on arrival and open the borders.       

1 hour ago, JustAnotherHun said:

Depends of the insurance you've signed. Many policies won't cover hospital costs if you're  tested positive but asymptomatic.

Even fewer will cover if you have tested negative but are forced into quarantine because of contact tracing.

If ten tested positive on arrival, i wonder how many came into contact at the airport and on the flight ? taking it takes 2 to 14 days to effect others.  

58 minutes ago, Salerno said:

What point?

The requirements of airlines.

2 hours ago, PolarAttack said:

Thais returning from Canada do need a negative preflight Covid test (within 72hrs before boarding) as well as another test on entry to Thailand. 

Did Prayut have to a test when he returned , after all he was exposed to leaders from all over the world, hand shaking and no masks ???? 

Only read the headline but surely this is what we've been saying all along - just open up to fully vaxxed with a PCR -72hrs and be done with it. Maybe a tracker for 10 days.

Please end these bureaucratic App nightmares that are purely there to salve timid military and bureaucrats' nerves at the expense of an entire people and industry.

1 hour ago, BestB said:

46% of total population and highly unlikely tourists will be heading to Surin or Nakhon nowhere. In all major tourist destinations 70% at least are vaxed

There are only 3 provinces that claim to have over 70% vaccinated (Bangkok, Phuket and Chonburi).

4 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

The burning question which has not been answered is were the infected actually tourists or returnees and where were they travelling from

Why is that important? It is not important to me. The number of infectious people entering the country is the issue and the only issue.

4 hours ago, internationalism said:

they are rather not tourists.

Large part, probably majority, are thai citizens. They did not come for holidays, but rather to visit their families.

The rest are expats, businessmen, foreign workers.

They all came in on COE rules, as TP was just launched days before and with hiccups.

They were holding their return in October, waiting for liberalisation of rules from November.

 

There are 6 categories at TP application form (probably same was of CEO form), including travel/tourism, but those 13k are from all groups.

 

Those statistics will be played up by TAT as success, but in reality they are failure

 

 

 

13 thousand people arrived. How do you know so much about them?

3 hours ago, internationalism said:

the title of this article mentions only tourists, not travellers.

It's done on purpose, as the government propaganda, that thailand is wide opened, while in reality very few foreigners and tourists are coming. 

In phuket sandbox only some 25% were genuine tourists. Most likely the same trend will be with AS and TP. Just very early steps to true opening.  

 

As to true covid positive travellers that figure is changing in every government report. They might even downplay it on purpose, as not to scare tourists. They haven't mentioned those in close contact to infected, who also are required to be put in hospital or hospitel for 10 days isolation

'tourists  arrived from the United States (1,593) Germany (1,592) and the United Kingdom (1,006), followed by Japan (935), Switzerland (624), Sweden (511), South Korea (499), Netherlands (363), UAE (350) and China (345). 

83 tourists arrived in Chiang Mai from South Korea, while 277 Russian tourists arrived in Phuket on Saturday on a flight from Moscow.

The arrivals referred to in the headline were foreigners not Thais. What are you going on about and why?

3 hours ago, Virt said:

Waste of money to be placed in hospital if it's not needed.

 

Most of the 10 positive people were most likely vaccinated, and because of that go through a mild case.

A simple quarantine should do the trick.

 

What I'm interested to know is what happened to those sitting close to them on the plane.

Will they be quarantined and who pays for it. Because they do not have Covid-19 there insurance will not pay… am I right 

27 minutes ago, RBOP said:

There are only 3 provinces that claim to have over 70% vaccinated (Bangkok, Phuket and Chonburi).

The ones that are actually open and allowing tourists ? Yes , that is the point 

2 minutes ago, BestB said:

The ones that are actually open and allowing tourists ? Yes , that is the point 

Chiang Mai had it first flight in on Friday

3 hours ago, RBOP said:

Hospital. Thats what the insurance is for.

That's the thing. I wonder how many tourists' insurance policies actually cover hospitalization when they don't need medical treatment. Mine certainly doesn't and I have a very good insurance with high coverage on just about anything. No exclusions. No non-Thai insurer is gonna cough up the costs for a hospital when you can just go into isolation until the infection is gone.

 

I really hope Thailand will review their policy. It's also the very reason why I will never have myself tested here. I am fully vaccinated but in no way covered for aforementioned high costs. I've been in the country since before the crisis started.

 

I told friends and family about this situation and it's keeping them far away from this country for the time being. No one wants to risk being hospitalized for no reason.

Hopefully they were shot and buried quickly. I heard bars may open soon. I don't want anyone screwing that up.

It's now up to 15 positive from 20,092 arrivals (0.07%)

 

- 'test & go':  5 from 12,564 (0.04%)

- Sandbox:  7 from 6,538 (0.11%)

- Quarantine: 3 from 990 (0.30%)

 

Note: table columns are Bangkok, Chang Mai, Phuket, Sumui

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=444543267031942&id=100044288176713

My kids school testet 1000 on opening.
43 positive and quietened.
the 43 where tested again the day after, and all negative.

3 hours ago, hotchilli said:

We're all classed as tourists... that never changes.

Only the duration of our stay.

True, but that's what it says on the label so no point complaining - you either buy it or go elsewhere.

I don't have a problem buying it because I know what I'm getting. No illusions.

4 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Hey, @Will B Good! What does the TAT calc. say about that mass invasion. 13 129 in 4 days! That must be around 3 million before Dec. 31st, right?

So 10 the 1st 4 days and 5 positives next 2
from Richard Barrow

Statistics about travellers arriving at Suvarnbhumi Airport in first 6 days of the reopening

12,978 travellers arrived

11,478 were doing Test & Go

532 were doing the 7-day Sandbox

968 were doing 7-10 day quarantine

Only 5 of these travellers tested positive (0.04%)

Statistics about travellers flying into Chiang Mai, Phuket & Samui

Key: arrivals (number tested positive)

Chiang Mai: Test & Go 83 (0)

Phuket: Test & Go 887 (3), Sandbox 5,813 (7), Quarantine 22 (0)

Samui: Test & Go 116 (0), Sandbox 193 (0)

0.07% of arrivals at 4 airports tested positive