Twice vaxed, 14-day home quarantine plus 5 antigen tests because co-worker tested positive.... Welcome to the clown show.

[Trujillo]

A friend of mine works at a restaurant in Central Airport Plaza.

She and all the other employees are double-vaxed (per Central mandate). Every week, all employees must be tested via antigen test (per Central mandate) even though they are fully vaccinated. 

One worker tested positive, was sent to Lanna Hospital for a subsequent test (positive) and was admitted. 

So...my friend was told, since she was in the same restaurant, that she must take an antigen test immediately and go home and self-quarantine for 14 days, and test again 5 days later, then 2 days later, then 3 days later (per restaurant mandate), then 4 days later (per restaurant mandate). If all the tests are negative, she can go back to work the day after the last test. 

 

Remember, she and all the others there are double (fully)-vaccinated (and in the 20s to 30s age group). This protocol (per Central mandate) appears to be more onerous than for unvaccinated people, (and this is not a positive test case; rather, just an incidental, potential contact). 

 

And by the way, the person who tested positive says that she felt like she had a mild cold. That's all. 

 

I hardly know what to say...but at the very least, with this kind of hysterical, excessive protocol, don't expect to recover any rational behavior for a very, very long time. 

Edited November 27, 2021 by Trujillo

[Dmaxdan]

When the pandemic first started Thailand's fear of the virus served them well.

Fast forward to today and that fear still abounds and is greatly holding the country back from trying to return to a semi normal life style.

They somehow seem to be clinging to the hope that attaining zero daily infections is still a very realistic target.

If they don't see the light soon it will be too late and the damage their actions and regulations are causing on the economy will be beyond repair.

 

The put it in layman's terms, they have completely lost the plot.

[darksidedog]

9 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said:

The put it in layman's terms, they have completely lost the plot.

That is assuming they had any actual plot to follow in the first place.

The continuous change of stance and incompetence makes you feel a blind man being assisted by Marcel Marceau could have performed better.

[mtls2005]

My guess is that this is the protocol the CCSA/MoPH issued, and that all restaurants agreed to.

 

My questions:

 

Is your friend being paid during their quarantine?

 

Was every other close-contact employee similarly affected?

 

Knowingly letting a positive employee (not your friend) continue to work, especially in food service seems idiotic.

 

Quarantining close contacts who've been vaxxed for some period also seems wise. Maybe five days? With a test-out option.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Skallywag]

Working in public does make a difference. 

Young people who serve food could easily infect the customers. 

Though with servers wearing masks, it seems unlikely.

It is unlikely she got Covid from another worker if that worker was wearing a mask, yet at break times or other times the workers may eat and drink and talk together which would be a way to contract the virus

58 minutes ago, Trujillo said:

A friend of mine works at a restaurant i

 

[seedy]

#1 - vaccinate the population 100%. Booster shots as required.

#2 - Covid is here forever. Just because you test positive means that you have A. - been in contact with Covid. B. - your vaccination will - hopefully - prevent you from requiring hospitalization.

#3 - get back to living. Like the Flu, It ain't going anywhere either.

#4 - putting people in hospital with no symptoms, or mild symptoms, will be a never ending situation.

[bkk6060]

Sounds like a very good policy to avoid the spread to co-workers and customers.

1 hour ago, Trujillo said:

Remember, she and all the others there are double (fully)-vaccinated (and in the 20s to 30s age group). 

1 hour ago, Trujillo said:

And by the way, the person who tested positive says that she felt like she had a mild cold. That's all. 

 

What do either of these have to do with any of it?

[Mac Mickmanus]

That would explain why some restaurants have closed , all the staff have gone home 

[simon43]

I had a PCR test a few days ago at the Vientiane Health Centre, prior to flying to Turkey.  Of the 100 or so people due to fly on my plane, 20 of them tested positive for Covid, yet had no outward symptoms at all (including an elderly couple from Singapore).

 

Those 20 were not allowed to fly - all the others were... (perhaps we had picked up Covid from the 20 persons who had been in close contact during the PCR testing?).

 

I arrived in Turkey feeling fine, and with a sh*tload of Covid/PCR documents from Laos.  The customs officer at the airport didn't want to see those documents, not even my double-vax card from Laos.  The only document that he needed was my passport ????  No health checks anywhere, just sensible mask-wearing and social-distancing in public places.

Edited November 28, 2021 by onthedarkside
quote of hidden post removed

[JoePai]

Remember, she and all the others there are double (fully)-vaccinated

 

and remember even with 2 x jabs you can still get the virus !

[samtam]

3 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

When the pandemic first started Thailand's fear of the virus served them well.

Fast forward to today and that fear still abounds and is greatly holding the country back from trying to return to a semi normal life style.

They somehow seem to be clinging to the hope that attaining zero daily infections is still a very realistic target.

If they don't see the light soon it will be too late and the damage their actions and regulations are causing on the economy will be beyond repair.

 

The put it in layman's terms, they have completely lost the plot.

Have you read about Hong Kong's zero Covid policy? There the plot is based on a Greek tragedy, with Chinese characteristics. (21 days quarantine to enter, for permanent residents only; no local cases for months.)

[Petey11]

Totally different to a scenario I am aware of. Not going to name place but restaurant, 2 staff positive, all staff took ATK which negative, carry on working, test again in five days. I suspect this is going under the radar so as not to lose business, face, customers. I personally know 2 who work there. The above is standard in UK now. Only difference is if you are close contact you have to ATK every day for 7-10 days AFAIA.

[EricTh]

I think Thai people are too fearful of Covid. Many countries are beginning to realize that we must live with the virus after almost two years.

 

If you are fully vaccinated and if you do catch the virus, it will just be like a mild cold unless you have a poor immune system.

Edited November 27, 2021 by EricTh

[brommers]

I see nothing wrong in having a relentless focus on minimising virus transmission, so fully support the policies of Central. So many Thai who have had the Chinese [vaccines] are essentially unprotected so regular testing and getting an mRNA shot is essential. I do not need to pay for a meal and take away Covid!

Edited November 28, 2021 by onthedarkside
trolling reference removed

[EricTh]

4 hours ago, JoePai said:

Remember, she and all the others there are double (fully)-vaccinated

 

and remember even with 2 x jabs you can still get the virus !

 

The purpose of all vaccines is to train our immune system to recognize the virus in the first place and to develop immune memory.

 

It was never meant to prevent infection as reported by some misleading vaccine producer.

 

If we catch the virus and all we have is a mild cold or mild fever for 1 to 2 days, I think the vaccine has done its job. Certainly no hospitalization needed in these cases.

 

[it is what it is]

Every week, all employees must be tested via antigen test (per Central mandate) even though they are fully vaccinated. 

 

yes, obviously, because even if vaccinated to can have and transmit the virus. there is still so much lack of understanding about covid, it's scary

[GrandPapillon]

Thais, as usual, live in lala land and in a bubble,

 

if they think they can beat that thing with a few tests and a vaccine, they are going to be very disappointed and will create a lot of unnecessary frustrated people

 

they don't know when they are beaten, and will keep acting like headless chickens

[Lemsta69]

7 hours ago, darksidedog said:

That is assuming they had any actual plot to follow in the first place.

The continuous change of stance and incompetence makes you feel a blind man being assisted by Marcel Marceau could have performed better.

so let's let the virus rip! will you be volunteering to help dispose of all the bodies? ????

[seedy]

10 hours ago, brommers said:

I see nothing wrong in having a relentless focus on minimising virus transmission,

Impossible to stop it, so why all the Draconian policies ?

It ain't going away. Get vaxxed, get on with your life.

Chinese vaccine is NOT junk, get over your prejudice.

I know people who do the same as yours, been nowhere for the last 2 years but doctors office.

That is NOT life

"I guess I should of stayed in bed, my pillow wrapped around my head"

To quote the song

[tonray]

19 hours ago, simon43 said:

I arrived in Turkey feeling fine, and with a sh*tload of Covid/PCR documents from Laos.  The customs officer at the airport didn't want to see those documents, not even my double-vax card from Laos. 

Turkey not likely going to be turning anyone away these days with a crashing currency and flagging economy

[wombat]

3 hours ago, seedy said:

Impossible to stop it, so why all the Draconian policies ?

It ain't going away. Get vaxxed, get on with your life.

Chinese vaccine is NOT junk, get over your prejudice.

 

 

 

[Guderian]

A few months ago, a Thai lady I know who works in a factory in Laem Chabang was sent home along with all the staff as somebody had tested positive. They all had to go for a PCR test but, if that was negative, they were simply told to stay at home for a few weeks (but no need to isolate) while the factory was shut down and deep cleaned, and no further testing after that. 

Edited November 28, 2021 by Guderian

[NorthernRyland]

23 hours ago, Trujillo said:

I hardly know what to say...but at the very least, with this kind of hysterical, excessive protocol, don't expect to recover any rational behavior for a very, very long time. 

COVID has broken the Thai's brains. I don't know if they have an innate fear of viruses or they are simply propagandized and poorly informed but they're acting like COVID was just announced yesterday.

[NorthernRyland]

15 hours ago, brommers said:

I see nothing wrong in having a relentless focus on minimising virus transmission, so fully support the policies of Central. 

OK fine but you can play that game alone, I'm done with this nonsense.

[DefaultName]

If all employees at that restaurant were sent home, it'll be closed.  Would they do that?

[ifmu]

22 hours ago, JoePai said:

Remember, she and all the others there are double (fully)-vaccinated

 

and remember even with 2 x jabs you can still get the virus !

yes  AND spread it to others 

[sandyf]

On 11/27/2021 at 12:46 PM, Dmaxdan said:

When the pandemic first started Thailand's fear of the virus served them well.

Fast forward to today and that fear still abounds and is greatly holding the country back from trying to return to a semi normal life style.

They somehow seem to be clinging to the hope that attaining zero daily infections is still a very realistic target.

If they don't see the light soon it will be too late and the damage their actions and regulations are causing on the economy will be beyond repair.

 

The put it in layman's terms, they have completely lost the plot.

Remind me, how did the Austrian approach work out?

[BritManToo]

44 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Remind me, how did the Austrian approach work out?

How did any countries approach work?

Epic fail for them all IMHO, if they'd done nothing I can't see the outcome as being any different.

 

An island that cuts off all contact from outside forever, and locked everyone in their home for 14 days, might have worked. But anything less extreme than that and I can't see any alternative than living with it, and pretending it doesn't exist except as a minor inconvenience (same as colds and flu).

Edited November 28, 2021 by BritManToo

[BusyB]

5 hours ago, tonray said:

Turkey not likely going to be turning anyone away these days with a crashing currency and flagging economy

But argue with ol' Recep Tayip and you'll get your hot beats.

Good luck anyway, I've followed your posts for years. 

Sad to see your wisdom and understanding leave SEA, but I can understand the draw of Turkey even without a ham license. You won't get much pork there though555

Keep us up to date ...

 

Misquoted, my post is aimed more at Simon43 obviously.

 

 

Edited November 28, 2021 by BusyB
Misquoted, my post is aimed more at Simon43 obviously.

[BusyB]

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

How did any countries approach work?

Epic fail for them all IMHO, if they'd done nothing I can't see the outcome as being any different.

 

An island that cuts off all contact from outside forever, and locked everyone in their home for 14 days, might have worked. But anything less extreme than that and I can't see any alternative than living with it, and pretending it doesn't exist except as a minor inconvenience (same as colds and flu).

Covid-19 is not a minor inconvenience. And yes we have to learn how to live with it. We're still trying. How many deaths. per 1000 of the population do you think is acceptable? How many who can't get treatment in ICU in emergency because it's clogged up with 'anti-vaxxeers' or people who are in the process of orphaning their kids in their 'fight against the vax dictatorship'.

High vax rates, a sensible testing regime and social distancing are the only solution for now if we are ever to get back to a world where social distancing is no longer the norm.

And people who work in public either have to bite the bullet or find a job somewhere else.

My company checks for vaxxed, tested or recovered at the door for everyone who enters.

Yesterday the guard apologized for wanting to compare my ID with my vaxertificate. I said 'no apologies, thanks for asking'.

God what is wrong with these people?