Some hotels now charging extra guest fee

[Pravda]

Some hotels are starting to charge extra guest fee. I'm talking ihg in particular. Never liked this chain, but stayed quite a lot in Crowne Plaza in bangers. Probably my favorite hotel.

 

Just to make sure I checked Holiday Inn express at Siam. Extra guest fee is almost $30. Their price is now higher than high season pre covid.

Edited December 16, 2021 by Pravda

[ThailandRyan]

Trying to make up for the lost money over a 2 year period. Aetas lumpini and others here in BKK are still closed.  Sad events.

Edited December 16, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[KhunLA]

Did they not always have that policy.  Trying to enforce it is another thing.  Don't know how they can, or who would pay, if reservation is booked for 2 guests.  Hotels are usually per room in Thailand, not per person.

[jackdd]

Just book through a platform like agoda, then no problem because you book a room for 2 people

[HashBrownHarry]

A lot of the higher end hotels have always had this policy, it's nothing new.

[Pravda]

45 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Did they not always have that policy.  Trying to enforce it is another thing.  Don't know how they can, or who would pay, if reservation is booked for 2 guests.  Hotels are usually per room in Thailand, not per person.

 

I have never seen this policy in Thailand and I stayed in a lot of hotels here. In Japan most definitely, but never here.

 

Anyway I did try booking through Agoda and indeed there is no extra guest fee.

 

How odd.

[WEBBYB808]

Welcome back to the Sausage fest.   This was normal practice before covid.  Everything  about a certain culture is about exploitation of the customer,  and a hand out.  Is this your first time in the LOS?

[worgeordie]

The Hotel that my daughter works at, are not sharing the 

service charge fees between the workers , but had the cheek

to say they are using the money to recondition another

one of their hotels , without the service charge the wages

are meager ,but jobs are not easy to find,so they can get

away with it.

regards Worgeordie

[Pravda]

1 minute ago, worgeordie said:

The Hotel that my daughter works at, are not sharing the 

service charge fees between the workers , but had the cheek

to say they are using the money to recondition another

one of their hotels , without the service charge the wages

are meager ,but jobs are not easy to find,so they can get

away with it.

regards Worgeordie

 

Well in the tipping thread one poster was saying that hotels most definitely share service charges with staff.

 

 

[worgeordie]

Just now, Pravda said:

 

Well in the tipping thread one poster was saying that hotels most definitely share service charges with staff.

 

 

Not this one* , they already hold undated signed resignation letters,

so it's their way or the highway ,   * others too according to my daughter

who has friends at other hotels.

regards worgeordie

 

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, Pravda said:

 

Well in the tipping thread one poster was saying that hotels most definitely share service charges with staff.

 

 

Surely that person would know the policy of the 12k+ hotels in Thailand.

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, jackdd said:

Just book through a platform like agoda, then no problem because you book a room for 2 people

I've been doing that for years, book for 2 people.

When they ask where's the other guest, I say she's a local girl and will be coming later tonight.

[Lancashirelad]

All 5* and many 4* hotels have always charged joiner fees. As others have said, the way around it is to ensure the room is booked for 2 people. A hotel concierge told me this on one of my first visits to Bangkok (almost 20 years ago).

If, upon check in, they enquire where the second person is, I just say "My partner will be joining me later".

[OneMoreFarang]

On 12/16/2021 at 2:17 PM, Pravda said:

Well in the tipping thread one poster was saying that hotels most definitely share service charges with staff.

I am that person. And I know a couple of good hotel who give the service charge 100% to the people who work there (the normal people, not the management). But I also mentioned that obviously I don't know all hotels or even many hotels. 

 

I know from one 5 star hotel in Bangkok that they had at the back building entrance every month a comparison of about ten 5 star hotels in Bangkok and how much each hotel paid in service charge. The last time I saw this the monthly service charge for each person was about 10k to 15k per month in all those hotels.

 

On 12/16/2021 at 2:21 PM, worgeordie said:

they already hold undated signed resignation letters,

so it's their way or the highway ,   * others too according to my daughter

who has friends at other hotels.

I am pretty sure professional hotels from international chains wouldn't do that. But again, I obviously don't know all of them.

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

As a hotelier I find these topics endlessly amusing. Aside from the fact posters who are apparently long term residents in Thailand stating prices in Dollars rather than Baht (really???) I'm tickled by the attitude of farang guests. For example, we STILL get farang guests trying to check in without a passport. They try to dictate the law to my staff. They are shown the door, we keep the money. The law is the law, take it or leave it. . .

 

I guarantee you, someone will comment below to tell me I'm wrong and a driver's license is fine. Frikking hilarious.

 

About guests that try to sneak extra 'joiners' without paying for them. Your also see them try to ponse a free breakfast for their 'joiner'. . . There are rules that licensed hotels have to follow for guest registration, overcrowding, fire regulations etc etc. Hotel licenses are costly to obtain and maintain, and even more costly to lose.

Hotels are also private enterprise, not public spaces. You should respect house policies when booking and checking in. Many hotels indeed try to discourage a certain guest profile by making their guest policy unattractive to those guests. . .

Personally if I go to some nice hotel with my family and sit in the restaurant, I feel like I made a mistake if it's full of farang guys and their obvious bar trash, it's cringeworthy to see. I'd rather the same customers stayed away from my hotel. I'm a snob and they lower the tone.

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2021 by Led Lolly Yellow Lolly

[Pravda]

I don't know what are you people talking about. What a hell is a joiner fee? I'm talking about booking a room for 2 people (me and my wife) and getting charged extra guest fee. I've never seen this in Thailand. Ever.

Edited December 18, 2021 by Pravda

[Denim]

57 minutes ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

I'd rather the same customers stayed away from my hotel. I'm a snob and they lower the tone.

 

Wait until the ' influencers '  contact you asking for freebies in return for a favorable review.

 

They claim to have xxx thousand subscribers and will get these people to look you up if only you will give them your product for free, whatever it is.

 

I had so many of these losers after me that I now just send them a copy and paste job advising them to get a real job if they want a secure income.

[jastheace]

as has been mentioned... not a new thing at all... in the higher end hotels...

back in the year 2000, dusit charged 1000B. 

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

27 minutes ago, Pravda said:

I'm talking about booking a room for 2 people (me and my wife) and getting charged extra guest fee. I've never seen this in Thailand. Ever.

I think you're making this up. If you book a room through an OTA like Agoda and click the cheapest rate, it may be that the rate is for single occupancy. If so, it's entirely reasonable you be charged extra for turning up with someone else.

[Pravda]

26 minutes ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

I think you're making this up. If you book a room through an OTA like Agoda and click the cheapest rate, it may be that the rate is for single occupancy. If so, it's entirely reasonable you be charged extra for turning up with someone else.

Nothing to do whatsoever with cheapest rate 

 

Orbitz - extra guest fee 

 

Agoda - normal price...no extra guest fee.

 

Maybe it's some kind of a glitch.

 

 

 

[DaveE13]

13 minutes ago, Pravda said:

Nothing to do whatsoever with cheapest rate 

 

Orbitz - extra guest fee 

 

Agoda - normal price...no extra guest fee.

 

Maybe it's some kind of a glitch.

 

 

 

I thought you meant " joiner Fee ". I always booked room for two people and if the Mrs is working tell reception she be along after work. No problem.

Thought Orbitz same as Agoda? Maybe something I need to think about when eventually return to Bangkok

[soi3eddie]

On 12/16/2021 at 9:11 AM, BritManToo said:

I've been doing that for years, book for 2 people. too. 

When they ask where's the other guest, I say she's a local girl and will be coming later tonight.

Same here. Always book a room for 2 people. If the ask, say girfriend/wife coming later. Never had a problem or extra charge.

 

[soi3eddie]

2 hours ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

As a hotelier I find these topics endlessly amusing. Aside from the fact posters who are apparently long term residents in Thailand stating prices in Dollars rather than Baht (really???) I'm tickled by the attitude of farang guests. For example, we STILL get farang guests trying to check in without a passport. They try to dictate the law to my staff. They are shown the door, we keep the money. The law is the law, take it or leave it. . .

 

I guarantee you, someone will comment below to tell me I'm wrong and a driver's license is fine. Frikking hilarious.

 

About guests that try to sneak extra 'joiners' without paying for them. Your also see them try to ponse a free breakfast for their 'joiner'. . . There are rules that licensed hotels have to follow for guest registration, overcrowding, fire regulations etc etc. Hotel licenses are costly to obtain and maintain, and even more costly to lose.

Hotels are also private enterprise, not public spaces. You should respect house policies when booking and checking in. Many hotels indeed try to discourage a certain guest profile by making their guest policy unattractive to those guests. . .

Personally if I go to some nice hotel with my family and sit in the restaurant, I feel like I made a mistake if it's full of farang guys and their obvious bar trash, it's cringeworthy to see. I'd rather the same customers stayed away from my hotel. I'm a snob and they lower the tone.

 

 

 

Maybe you can share your establishment's name so that TVF members know where to go for family friendly accommodations.

 

Edited December 18, 2021 by soi3eddie

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

We have a big LED sign on the main road. It reads "No Belgians, and no TVF members"

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

2 hours ago, Denim said:

I had so many of these losers after me that I now just send them a copy and paste job advising them to get a real job if they want a secure income.

Why even bother with that? You should be charging for advice, not giving it away for free.

[bbko]

On 12/16/2021 at 1:09 PM, Pravda said:

Some hotels are starting to charge extra guest fee.

Those low-life mo-fos, how dare they charge extra when someone uses their towels, soap, and sleep in their beds?  Should be free right? 

[robblok]

1 hour ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

We have a big LED sign on the main road. It reads "No Belgians, and no TVF members"

The TVF member i get, but what is your beef with Belgians. (except the French ones the Dutch speaking ones are fine ????)

Edited December 18, 2021 by robblok

[Pravda]

6 hours ago, bbko said:

Those low-life mo-fos, how dare they charge extra when someone uses their towels, soap, and sleep in their beds?  Should be free right? 

It's meds time for you 

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

5 hours ago, Pravda said:

It's meds time for you 

I think bbko is making a valid observation. Why shouldn't hotels charge for additional guests over and above the booking terms? Hotels are businesses, not charities.

[userabcd]

12 hours ago, bbko said:

Those low-life mo-fos, how dare they charge extra when someone uses their towels, soap, and sleep in their beds?  Should be free right? 

Agreed, should be free.