I have no particular religious beliefs, but I don't understand burying people...

 

For me, and most I would think, being buried alive would be a horrible thing... why would anyone want to be buried after they are dead? It seems very confining and a waste of good land too... 

Good nutrients for the soil....

I'm involved with a very large land deal, nearly 1000 Rai, the land used for one of these Chinese cemeteries that are popping up all over Thailand. It was kind of funny, the locals voting on whether they wanted lots of Chinese bones as neighbors, what with Thais being so superstitious, but I can tell you for sure, that money talks all that away. . . but the point is, it is indeed a spectacular waste of land, and they weren't even Thai citizens. Kind of funny in a way.

 

 

 

 

i agree, a waste of space, just tradition but will eventually die out..

There is a company that can make a graphite diamond from your ashes.

just thinking.

'Diamond Geezer' and all that  !

 ????????

 

It doesn’t waste the land it fertilizes it and is a very hygiene way of containing a dangerous bio hazard.

Nearly everyone up our way gets burnt.

Then go for sky burial..

Why waste energy cremating somebody ?   Burial returns nutrients to the earth .

 

Of course ,  the person to be buried should ideally have bought the farm and not still in the land of the living. ????

 

My father was buried. All other relatives up the flume.

 

Those of us who survive him visit his grave if we are in the area and reflect on the many good things he did for us all.

 

For the others , nothing to go see.  No connection.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Denim said:

Why waste energy cremating somebody ?   Burial returns nutrients to the earth .

 

Of course ,  the person to be buried should ideally have bought the farm and not still in the land of the living. ????

 

My father was buried. All other relatives up the flume.

 

Those of us who survive him visit his grave if we are in the area and reflect on the many good things he did for us all.

 

For the others , nothing to go see.  No connection.

 

 

Well, it depends.

My parents cremains are in Arlington National cemetery on a shelf and there is lots to see there. But I wouldn't make a special trip to see a shelf or a grave.

 

 

I plan to donate my corpse for medical school usage (and will be the 3rd generation of my family to do this).

Next question: Why are people religious.

It doesn't make sense but there are many many of them...

I just want to make sure I do not have to pay for it.

Burn, Bury, trip to the landfill. Who Cares - You're DEAD !!! 555

 

37 minutes ago, Denim said:

For the others , nothing to go see.  No connection.

Why do you need a grave to remember someone? I remember friends and family everyday through favourite walks, places, foods, music, films and a thousand and one other things that prompt a memory. 

1 hour ago, simon43 said:

Good nutrients for the soil....

For some, possibly their only contribution to society ... ????

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

i agree, a waste of space, just tradition but will eventually die out..

When food runs out, the dead will be added as a food supplement ... just like horror movies.  Waste nothing.

13 minutes ago, Stocky said:

Why do you need a grave to remember someone? I remember friends and family everyday through favourite walks, places, foods, music, films and a thousand and one other things that prompt a memory. 

I spend a lot of time curating our family photos. I consider them to be very important. As I say to my kids, when we're gone, mum and dad will in your memory and in your heart.

 

1 hour ago, The Hammer2021 said:

It doesn’t waste the land it fertilizes it and is a very hygiene way of containing a dangerous bio hazard.

Fertilizers to grown more headstones?

 

9 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

For some, possibly their only contribution to society ... ????

Drinking and smoking?

It provides a place of pilgrimage for the living relatives.

Ossury cemeteries are ingenious IMHO. No ground contamination and zero energy used. When the rent on the compartment runs out the bones are placed in the storeroom in a numbered wooden box smaller than the original coffin thus saving space and allowing for new 'burials'.

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

i agree, a waste of space, just tradition but will eventually die out..

A waste of space? Ha! Just wait until you see the size of the Mausoleum I'm sure I will be placed in...

I prefer to be buried , no religious reasons , I have my plot waiting

in the Foreign cemetery here in Chiang Mai, hope I don't need it for

a few more years yet ,....thinking of having a wire from the coffin ,up

top to a bell..... just in case  ???? 

 

regards worgeordie

2 hours ago, sipi said:

Nearly everyone up our way gets burnt.

Yes.....in one form or another.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Well, it depends.

My parents cremains are in Arlington National cemetery on a shelf and there is lots to see there. But I wouldn't make a special trip to see a shelf or a grave.

 

 

As you say , it depends on the individual. Personally , I wouldn't make a special trip to see the shelves of a lot of people who are strangers to me and for whom I have no memories or connection. 

 

In fact , as I said in my post , we seldom make a special trip , especially as I now live in Thailand and the rest of my family have moved elsewhere. But if I am on holiday in the UK visiting friends in the area I also go to the grave .

 

It is not a question of needing a grave to remember someone ( something I never said ) it is just a pleasant place to go for quiet reflection, especially as the church there dates from the 12th century and is in the village of Harmondsworth. The old Five Bells pub is just by the cemetery entrance dating from 1871 and since it is on the way makes another nice place for reflection.

 

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g1076991-d14791126-Reviews-The_Five_Bells-Harmondsworth_Greater_London_England.html

 

Everybody has different feelings about all sorts of things. Nobody is right or wrong it is just a matter of each individuals predilections.

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Well, it depends.

My parents cremains are in Arlington National cemetery on a shelf and there is lots to see there. But I wouldn't make a special trip to see a shelf or a grave.

 

 

How did that come about? They must have urned it... is it tough to get in? I think my parents are adrift off the shore at Rockaway Beach.. 

 

 

 

29 minutes ago, Denim said:

The old Five Bells pub is just by the cemetery entrance dating from 1871 and since it is on the way makes another nice place for reflection.

Wow - they have chicken Kiev - had that in my youth in NYC at Jimmy's La Grange... it was spectacular and I have not had it since... and Jimmy was a character. He used to draw a picture on the tablecloth of how it was made... great showmanship.

3 hours ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

one of these Chinese cemeteries that are popping up all over Thailand.

I recently saw a Chinese cemetery outside of CM - why are so many popping up? Are they flying the bodies in? Land is not particularly cheap there in Doi Saket

I'm gonna get burnt and deposited in one of those cute little boxes at the local village temple grounds. They can water me every Songkran.

55 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

I recently saw a Chinese cemetery outside of CM - why are so many popping up? Are they flying the bodies in? Land is not particularly cheap there in Doi Saket

You ever tried buying land in China? A lot of Chinese wealth sloshing around and they want somewhere to put their dead so they can go visit.