Thai ladies’ morality- I have no idea what they are thinking

[The Hammer2021]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Discussions about the morality of prostitution are off topic here. I was more interested in the thought process of the husband's bringing their wives to service Farangs. 

 

Given that the Thai men are reported to be seeing other ladies while their wives are busy, that seems to answer the question.  

 

 

 

[The Hammer2021]

Just now, The Hammer2021 said:

 

555 You don't define what is on or off topic.

But no:

'Given that the Thai men are reported to be seeing other ladies while their wives are busy, that seems to answer the question.'

Does not really answer any question.

You pre-presume marital status.

You have ignored all the responses which refute your scenario presented by your  'friend'

The guys are on scooters might be motor sai taxi drivers not husbands.

When a Thai girl  has an SO married or otherwise they usually stay well in the background.

To be honest I doubt they synchronise their sexual activities as in: 'seeing other ladies while their wives are busy'

Open relationships,   pecuniary or otherwise don't really work to that kind of timing.

 

 

[starky]

On 12/30/2021 at 12:33 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

Obviously my insider knowledge in women's heads is limited. But it seems lots of girls work in bars for some time and then they stop and have a "normal" life. It's also not unusual for girls at universities to make some extra money while they study. Will there be any phycological damage? I guess it depends a lot how much they think about it.

Luckily most of the Thai girls are not Catholics who have to think about their sins and all that. F$%@ and forget - and there is no problem.

I agree totally . As long as there is an escape plan and they smart enough to stack chips whilst they can, get out and forget the whole sordid business. As for the psychological damage couldn't be any worse than having a string of <deleted> boyfriends regardless of country of origin.  Some girls just seem to luck out in that respect. 

[Danderman123]

7 hours ago, Opossum said:

Of course pimps do not exist in Thailand nor does prostitutes...

 

Really.

 

Perhaps you don’t know what a pimp does.

[Danderman123]

4 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

555 You don't define what is on or off topic.

But no:

'Given that the Thai men are reported to be seeing other ladies while their wives are busy, that seems to answer the question.'

Does not really answer any question.

You pre-presume marital status.

You have ignored all the responses which refute your scenario presented by your  'friend'

The guys are on scooters might be motor sai taxi drivers not husbands.

When a Thai girl  has an SO married or otherwise they usually stay well in the background.

To be honest I doubt they synchronise their sexual activities as in: 'seeing other ladies while their wives are busy'

Open relationships,   pecuniary or otherwise don't really work to that kind of timing.

 

 

Again, I have enough information to know that the lady in question:

 

Works factory, gets up at 5 am on work days

Has a Thai husband

The Thai husband delivered her to the customer’s pool villa.

[1FinickyOne]

14 hours ago, Hummin said:

I hope it was her letting you sleep with her, with his approval? 
 

????

I quite plainly said that the friend "let me" - - there were so many choices back then, as here now, that it would be insane to do such a thing w/o approval... and the husband probably found someone else for the night... 

[Excel]

On 12/30/2021 at 11:19 AM, MrJ2U said:

There not worth the hassle.

 

Stay with the married ones.

How wrong can you be ?  As I was told when I was 16, now that's a very long time ago, if you want to avoid family hassles and other associated baggage then befriend a pretty , large breasted nymphomaniac orphan ( over 18 obviously ).  I wish I followed my friends advice. ????

Edited January 1, 2022 by Excel

[FritsSikkink]

19 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

I might be concerned but I wouldn't be making the pejorative  moral judgment  you seem to trying to  elicit. I would be more worried if they were front line troops in Afghanistan. I do  not relish them as killing machines and would worry about the danger they  are in. Our sons and daughters have sex lives but it is not our  business to be even thinking about it. Oil workers, soldiers, bomber pilots, miners, chemical process workers, construction  workers all potentially do damage  and harm to themselves  and to others but you don't care about their  jobs. So the  issue is sex. That is  your objection. Prostitution is the wrong kind of barter and the wrong  kind of women's independence. You exhibit the classic trends of controlling patriarchy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Are_All_Prostitutes_(song)

Women's independence, what a joke. Most of them don't do it because they like it. How do i know, i grew up the the Amsterdam Red Light district. I don't have a problem with sex workers in general but know the ugly side of it. That part you willingly ignore. Do you really think a 20 year old is having a good time having sex with an old ugly man? You should talk to them to find out. Probably more interested to keep the availability than solving the problem

Edited January 1, 2022 by FritsSikkink

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Women's independence, what a joke. Most of them don't do it because they like it. You only care about availability.

Some like it, and the controll of their own life it giving them! Some like it more than any other work! Some can't stay in any other work of different reasons! Some is controlled by others and forced to do it, either feel forced to do it, to take care family, and have no other options, or forced physical by others by trafficking.

 

 

[Danderman123]

The lady in question is now in 2 weeks isolation for Omicron. Apparently, she got it at her factory the day after I saw her. 

[Hugh Cow]

On 12/30/2021 at 6:08 PM, Neeranam said:

I often say nothing. 

 

The other day, I went to a gym and I asked a guy where he was from. He said 'Khon Kaen, I'm an oldtimer, been here 8 years". ????

I smiled, and a couple of minutes later the gym assistant came in and started talking to me in Thai. The hadn't a clue what we were saying ???? 

 

On 12/30/2021 at 5:59 PM, Broken Record said:

Yup, I had some Old guy telling me all about Thailand, the people, the women situation, the horrors of driving here and not to do it, he was telling this as a 73 year old who had lived here for 3 years, of course he didn't know I had been here 30 years, I just let him carry on until he had exhausted every put down of Thailand and Thai people ha had in his repertoire, then I dropped the bombshell, he said no more about the subject, I sympathize with him and understand where he himself is coming from, but we looked at Thailand completely different, cos his experience started as an old man, mine didn't so I'm not bitter and twisted. 

I feel humbled to be in the presence of two experts on Thailand and Thai culture.

 

"You people who think you know everything are annoying us that do."

[Hugh Cow]

This is my take on it.

I am not goint to qualify it with how much experience language skills years etc I have or dont have in Thailand. I am a farang and therefore will always be an outsider.

The absence of christianity that has always preached the virtue of chastity and the concept of sin, has not ingrained itself into the culture.  Theirs is a history of men having multiple wives from the earlier kings down. Today men have there Mia Nois and women have their sponsors which I suspect is just a modern day version of the earlier cultural practice depending on your wealth (men) or your poverty (women) and seen as quite legitimate at one time.

Some women can look at this as a legitimate way to help take care of their parents and family. Even some parents look at it as a positive as far as another source of income goes.

I'm sure every "farang" has heard a Thai women lament Tha mens propensity for multiple girlfriends. They leave out the fact that many of these girlfriends know these men already have a wife but are still willing to be in a relationship if it satisfies their reasoning and he is generous. Some believe a farang husband will not be out drinking every night and will not stray like Thai boyfriends/husbands and that along with more money is certainly an attraction for some Thai women.

Our moralising makes no difference to Thais. We are outsiders seen as an income source of which we have only ourselves to blame. We are guests in their culture. It is not for me to moralise or criticise their culture. Farang and money has maybe caused some corruption to their culture by giving them more options. I dont know if that is good or bad.

My job to make sure the costs I bear are acceptable. The one thing I do know is the more I experince Thai culture, the less I know.

This is not meant to be the definitive thoughts on Thai culture. Just one old farangs opinion. You are all free to disagree.

Edited January 5, 2022 by Hugh Cow

[Danderman123]

I went with a Thai lady off and on for a few years, or better said, I rented her. We had plans to go to Brazil this weekend, but she abruptly dropped me, having a found a better customer. But her sister volunteered to go in her place. She said her Thai husband doesn’t mind because she is just working. For 2 or 3 months.

[BritManToo]

On 12/30/2021 at 2:59 PM, Broken Record said:

Yup, I had some Old guy telling me all about Thailand, the people, the women situation, the horrors of driving here and not to do it, he was telling this as a 73 year old who had lived here for 3 years, of course he didn't know I had been here 30 years, I just let him carry on until he had exhausted every put down of Thailand and Thai people ha had in his repertoire, then I dropped the bombshell, he said no more about the subject, I sympathize with him and understand where he himself is coming from, but we looked at Thailand completely different, cos his experience started as an old man, mine didn't so I'm not bitter and twisted. 

Why would coming here in your older years make you hate the place?

As a 70 year old, I can't see him getting any sex in his home country.

Here is the place to be! 

[KhunLA]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Why would coming here in your older years make you hate the place?

As a 70 year old, I can't see him getting any sex in his home country.

Here is the place to be! 

Or ... sex with people his own age ... that's scary in itself ????

[BritManToo]

3 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Or ... sex with people his own age ... that's scary in itself ????

Yep, my former Brit wife divorced me when she was 50 .......... thank god!

I can't imagine having sex with a woman that old, let alone 70.

Hurrah for Thai ladies morality!

Edited January 5, 2022 by BritManToo

[Danderman123]

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Yep, my former Brit wife divorced me when she was 50 .......... thank god!

I can't imagine having sex with a woman that old, let alone 70.

Hurrah for Thai ladies morality!

I am going with an attractive 44 year old lady tonight.  That’s about my upper limit. I have noticed that about age 50, the ladies mutate from attractive older lady to aged grandmother, almost overnight.
 

 

Edited January 5, 2022 by Danderman123

[Hugh Cow]

We are all in Thailand for different reasons. I have met guys from many different parts of the world. If i meet an expat and he is a pleasant guy, i dont care if he is 75 and banging a 25 year old. I am getting on towards 70 myself and if I make it I hope to enjoy the last few years in Thailand. Whilst banging everything in site is not for me, It is fine for others. If LBs are your thing go for it. I dont judge people by age and sexual proclivity and care even less. I have met nice blokes from a range of nationalities and have met some A holes from my own country. Many of us are on or close to the downhill run.

Being in some place with a blanket over your legs sitting forever celibate  in front of the TV on your final countdown is often expected from your family and others. Some refuse to recognise they are old and flee to places like Thailand. Good on "em.

Better to die after a few drinks under your belt and a fling with a nubile  princess when the bar closes, rather than in a lounge room in front of the TV waiting for the grim reaper.

Most have had their years of responsibilty sacrificing for a family. Now its their time in the sun to enjoy life and go out their way, with nothing left in the tank. Go for it boys.

Better to die with your boots off than your slippers on.

[Danderman123]

So I am in Istanbul now with a young Thai lady, en route to Brazil. 

 

She swears her Thai husband has no problem that she is Going indefinitely with me. 

 

Makes me wonder how many ladies married to elderly Farangs have Thai husbands waiting for them. 

[Danderman123]

I am lazing on the beach in Brazil, waiting for Omicron to pass in Thailand. Meanwhile, the ladies are lining up to come visit me when I return.

 

The married lady I am with here in Brazil is demanding 2 nights a week.

 

Her married neighbor wants 1 night a week, plus trips abroad.

 

A bar Mamasan is professing her eternal love for me on Facebook, and wants one night a week. Apparently, that’s all she can manage, she is booked the other six nights.

Hmm.. that leaves three nights free, unless I double them up.

 

[Danderman123]

Along the same lines as the OP, I went with a Thai lady on and off for 4 years. Off was when I went home for a few months, and she lived with a Thai boyfriend until I returned. At one point, she left Thailand to travel with me for some months, and her Thai boyfriend settled down with another lady and had a kid. When we returned, we stayed together in Pattaya for a few months until I ejected her, and she convinced her boyfriend to dump his girlfriend. But the girlfriend dumped the kid on him.

 

so now my ex pays for her barely working Thai boyfriend, and the kid. When she goes with a customer, he runs down to see his ex girlfriend.

 

Its pretty obvious when she stops making big bucks, he will be gone, and she will be broke.

 

Meanwhile I am in Brazil with her twin sister.

[Danderman123]

So this is from the Facebook of some Thai guy, where he proudly displays his Significant Other with her Farang boyfriend.

 

she is living with the Farang now.

Edited January 23, 2022 by Danderman123

[spidermike007]

There are alot of women who are not professionals, yet they will do a guy for some cash. Nothing wrong with that. Only the puritans and prudes would fault a woman for that. They are referred to as freelancers. There are all sorts of freelancers here, from all walks of life. 

 

In the US, there are far more freelancers than there are here. Only they would never in a million years admit they are getting busy for cash or gifts and prizes. And you never know what it will cost up front. It often ends up being a real scam.

 

Here the system is infinitely more honest, and most of the women have infinitely more integrity. You know what you are getting into up front, and you know what it is going to cost you too. 

[GrandPapillon]

well it's a job like anything else ????

 

there was a gay guy who found out once that his partner of 20 years had a wife and children and had a double life.

 

he didn't take it nicely, and was shocked, the gay farang was in tears, thought it was all for love

 

the gay partner excuse was it was a "job" and the family knew it, and since the gay farang was very very rich, it was meant as a source of funds for the entire family.

 

kind of creepy and crazy, but people will do crazy things in crazy times just to survive, and westerners were not different during time of wars. Ask the German wives whoring themselves to American and Russian soldiers after the Berlin invasion to protect and feed their families.

[Bluespunk]

On 12/30/2021 at 7:07 AM, Danderman123 said:

Note that I am talking about ladies working in the factory, ie they are not penniless.

Hardly going to be wealthy either...

[Danderman123]

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

There are alot of women who are not professionals, yet they will do a guy for some cash. Nothing wrong with that. Only the puritans and prudes would fault a woman for that. They are referred to as freelancers. There are all sorts of freelancers here, from all walks of life. 

 

In the US, there are far more freelancers than there are here. Only they would never in a million years admit they are getting busy for cash or gifts and prizes. And you never know what it will cost up front. It often ends up being a real scam.

 

Here the system is infinitely more honest, and most of the women have infinitely more integrity. You know what you are getting into up front, and you know what it is going to cost you too. 

My only issue is the freelancer who has a Thai husband, that part boggles my mind.

 

while writing this, I have a married Thai lady on my sofa arguing via telephone with her married neighbor over who gets to visit me in my condo when I return. Apparently, they are satisfied with their arrangement, but are asking to go together to Cambodia after Songkran.

[Danderman123]

On 12/31/2021 at 9:49 AM, The Hammer2021 said:

555 You don't define what is on or off topic.

But no:

'Given that the Thai men are reported to be seeing other ladies while their wives are busy, that seems to answer the question.'

Does not really answer any question.

You pre-presume marital status.

You have ignored all the responses which refute your scenario presented by your  'friend'

The guys are on scooters might be motor sai taxi drivers not husbands.

When a Thai girl  has an SO married or otherwise they usually stay well in the background.

To be honest I doubt they synchronise their sexual activities as in: 'seeing other ladies while their wives are busy'

Open relationships,   pecuniary or otherwise don't really work to that kind of timing.

 

I took a Thai lady to Dubai and other countries for a few months. While she was away, her Thai boyfriend knocked up another lady, so I guess he synchronized well.

 

Now the Thai lady has to support her husband, his Mia noi, and the Mia Noi’s baby.

 

 

[Phil Conners]

On 12/30/2021 at 5:49 AM, BangkokReady said:

But at the same frequency and to the same level of casual acceptance by society?

 

I can only speak for the UK, but the idea of a gik, a mia noi or young women having older men pay them for sex while at uni seem very rare.

Hmmm, look up sugerdaddy.  It is very common throughout the western world, Europe and USA too. 

[spidermike007]

40 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I took a Thai lady to Dubai and other countries for a few months. While she was away, her Thai boyfriend knocked up another lady, so I guess he synchronized well.

 

Now the Thai lady has to support her husband, his Mia noi, and the Mia Noi’s baby.

 

 

One does not HAVE to do anything in life. We make choices. Some are smarter than others when it comes to the choices they make in this life. 

[BritManToo]

Gotta say, I don't think about it much and just enjoy the experiences on offer.

What they do out of my sight, I just don't care.