Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Well obviously we all know the aid from Nato and other countries has been vital to Ukraine from the beginning. The point being however those weapons provded to Ukraine have been legal and not UN violations

No one gives a rat's about the UN, it has become ridiculous. It should be moved to Turky

[Gweiloman]

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No one gives a rat's about the UN, it has become ridiculous. It should be moved to Turky

Wonders never cease. I actually gave you a thumbs up.

[Bkk Brian]

14 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Wonders never cease. I actually gave you a thumbs up.

Oh the irony, who was it that said:

 

Much as this would be nice, Russia has proven itself to be more abiding with international law than some others. 

[Yellowtail]

Be nice to have that missile defense system Obama canceled to help with his re-election 

[Gweiloman]

44 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Well obviously we all know the aid from Nato and other countries has been vital to Ukraine from the beginning. The point being however those weapons provded to Ukraine have been legal and not UN violations

Wow, I will sleep better knowing that no western countries ever violates UN regulations. Oh, wait…

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Wow, I will sleep better knowing that no western countries ever violates UN regulations. Oh, wait…

Ok

[AreYouGerman]

1 hour ago, Gweiloman said:

As for making you look stupid, I’m just going with the flow here. I noticed a lot of posts that insults the other poster gets a lot of likes and thumbs up and trophies whereas I seem to be getting only confused looks. Not sure if my posts are confusing or whether some people are easily confused.

 

Don't get hung up on those 'badges'. In the Ukraine and Israel thread, it always comes from the same three guys whom you can basically ignore in the sense of a meaningful debate. They have absolutely nothing to offer, as their opinions just parrot what either Fox News* or CNN are spitting out. Best is to just post your opinion without quoting anybody and then see who's staying on topic and worth your time in case they quote you.

 

*It reminds me of the time where Tucker Carlson was calling out the Ukraine war hoax on Fox News and then Hannity came on right after and telling us that total war against Russia is needed. You can debate with Tucker fans but not with the Hannity boomers.

[metisdead]

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[Gweiloman]

1 minute ago, metisdead said:

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As per the The War in Ukraine forum header:

Latest developments and discussion of events in the Ukraine War. Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.

All video content must be from a credible media source, and in English. Foreign languages, even with subtitles, are not permitted.

Thank you for the clarification.

[Mavideol]

3 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Sorry, but I have no idea what you are trying to say.

 

Which obviously rules you out.

deflecting again, not surprising

[Gweiloman]

4 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

deflecting again, not surprising

You really have a comprehension, communication and reading problem. I replied to your post saying that I don’t know what you are trying to say. How is that deflecting?
 

My second comment of ruling you out was not directed at you but to another poster. 

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, AreYouGerman said:

You can debate with Tucker fans but not with the Hannity boomers.

You really have a thing with "boomers" don't you? It's like you think they are all of the same mind.

[jvs]

Not talking directly to some smug persons here and i know they will not change their mind but

for normal people who can relate.

 

[Gweiloman]

56 minutes ago, jvs said:

Not talking directly to some smug persons here and i know they will not change their mind but

for normal people who can relate.

 

I can see very clearly now how your opinions are formed, if you are believing BS like this. 
 

I wonder if this would be considered a credible source by AN guidelines, particularly also as he is repeating something said in Russian into English which may or may not be accurate. However, I will not report this post unlike some as I believe it is important to hear all sides and then form our own opinions based on what we hear.

 

Some of the posters here should try that as well lol.

[johng]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/frontline-ukrainians-fear-new-aid-from-us-will-be-a-disaster

 

 

Oleg sighed when The Daily Beast told him about the events 5,000 miles away in Washington, D.C. “Are you serious?” he said. “Now this war will just continue.”

 

and

 

“In my mind, and all of my friends, this money doesn’t help Ukraine,” he said. “Our country has too much corruption.”

 

“The new money will just prolong the war, and civilians and the military are tired. People want peace and negotiations. Not the continuation of the conflict,” he added.

[Rimmer]

AN off topic unapproved video has been removed

[Mavideol]

the typical Russian defense... it's them not us

Russia blames 'hostile' Baltic countries for split in relations

Russia blames 'hostile' Baltic countries for split in relations (msn.com)

 

[Seppius]

RUSSIANS ARE AGAIN DECIMATED NEAR VUHLEDAR, THEY LOST TONS OF ARMOR WITHOUT ANY PROGRES | 2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eto4p12Y58Q

 

[Gweiloman]

35 minutes ago, Seppius said:

RUSSIANS ARE AGAIN DECIMATED NEAR VUHLEDAR, THEY LOST TONS OF ARMOR WITHOUT ANY PROGRES | 2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eto4p12Y58Q

 

 

“We tell people: ‘Your name will be in the history books.’”

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/why-ukraine-losing-russia-war/

[tgw]

1 hour ago, Gweiloman said:

“We tell people: ‘Your name will be in the history books.’”

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/why-ukraine-losing-russia-war/

 

this will be a pretty thick book.

[johng]

44 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

this will be a pretty thick book.

The Ukrainian book of remembrance ??

[Seppius]

2 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

 

“We tell people: ‘Your name will be in the history books.’”

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/why-ukraine-losing-russia-war/

Since that was published, US passes the bill

 

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-weapons-russia-congress-aid-a28f463da6df2f144e3bbdbf47254ece

 

Many of the weapons are now in Ukraine as they were being stored in Germany and Poland, hence the success Ukraine has had very recently

 

$60 billion has changed the picture, plus other countries stepping up more UK and France for example

[johng]

17 minutes ago, Seppius said:

$60 billion has changed the picture, plus other countries stepping up more UK and France for example

 

Yes the picture is looking more and more like all out NATO involvement and therefore WWIII.

[Gweiloman]

18 minutes ago, Seppius said:

Since that was published, US passes the bill

 

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-weapons-russia-congress-aid-a28f463da6df2f144e3bbdbf47254ece

 

Many of the weapons are now in Ukraine as they were being stored in Germany and Poland, hence the success Ukraine has had very recently

 

$60 billion has changed the picture, plus other countries stepping up more UK and France for example

Optimistic report, although I haven’t come across any significant Ukrainian success recently. You are not making that up, are you?

 

This is a more balanced and believable report.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/us/politics/ukraine-weapons-us.html

 

[Bkk Brian]

Another one to the bottom..........

 

Ukraine’s intelligence service claims to strike again with a marine drone in occupied Crimea. This time reportedly hitting a Russian speedboat to the west of the peninsula.

 

 

[impulse]

1 hour ago, johng said:

 

Yes the picture is looking more and more like all out NATO involvement and therefore WWIII.

 

Speaking of idiot ideas and WW3...

 

"We can't let Ukraine fall because if it does, then there's a significant likelihood that America will have to get into the conflict — not simply with our money, but with our servicewomen and our servicemen," (Hakeem) Jeffries (D) said in an interview with Norah O'Donnell for 60 Minutes. 

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrat-leader-jeffries-pro-putin-faction-in-gop-delayed-ukraine-aid-60-minutes/

 

Edit:  I found that first on RT.com, and had to search the interwebs to make sure it wasn't just Russkie propaganda.  Nope.  Sadly, it's that stoopid.

 

 

[stevenl]

34 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Speaking of idiot ideas and WW3...

 

"We can't let Ukraine fall because if it does, then there's a significant likelihood that America will have to get into the conflict — not simply with our money, but with our servicewomen and our servicemen," (Hakeem) Jeffries (D) said in an interview with Norah O'Donnell for 60 Minutes. 

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrat-leader-jeffries-pro-putin-faction-in-gop-delayed-ukraine-aid-60-minutes/

 

Edit:  I found that first on RT.com, and had to search the interwebs to make sure it wasn't just Russkie propaganda.  Nope.  Sadly, it's that stoopid.

 

 

Unfortunately it's true. If Russia prevails it seems unlikely they'll stop. Quite a few NATO countries nearby who could fall victim, forcing NATO to step in 

[Yellowtail]

Why is Ukraine not targeting Russia's energy production? It seems that would be the best way to break them. 

[Seppius]

4 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Optimistic report, although I haven’t come across any significant Ukrainian success recently. You are not making that up, are you?

 

This is a more balanced and believable report.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/us/politics/ukraine-weapons-us.html

 

Well, you never watched the video I posted, video evidence of a ton of your nice Russian friends getting their equipment being blown up very recently

[Seppius]

5 hours ago, johng said:

 

Yes the picture is looking more and more like all out NATO involvement and therefore WWIII.

 

Unfortunately, nukes is just about all Russia has left, they can send tens of thousands of conscripts and maybe gain some ground, but one day ordinary Russians will wake up and say no more, (except the Russian trolls on here)