To the Farang on the Orange Cruiser Bike that Almost Died Today

[Mr Meeseeks]

I am driving along Sukhumvit in my car, doing about 80kph in the outside lane and an older farang on an orange cruiser bike, turned out from Bangkok Pattaya Hospital, crossed three lanes to do a u-turn right in front of me, without looking. 

 

I had to lock-up my brakes to avoid hitting him.  He was lucky I saw him early and knew what his was going to do. A local wouldn't have anticipated that. 

 

You would have been dead if I wasn't driving a car with decent brakes mate, if I was in a pick-up or SUV and I would have hit you. It was a wet road too. 

 

Another couple of bits of advice for you (sorry for sounding like old father Thames):

1. Don't go giving Thais the finger like you did me mate, if you anger one of the local nutters they will just ride you off the road.

2. You are a visitor in a foreign country, not to mention a senior, so tone down the aggression, or you won't last long. It's easy for anyone to find out who we are here!

Edited March 23, 2022 by Mr Meeseeks

[VocalNeal]

Why the outside lane? Where you also doing the U-turn?

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 minute ago, VocalNeal said:

Why the outside lane? Where you also doing the U-turn?

I had just completed overtaking a pick-up in the middle lane and was about to go back left when he came from the left out in front of me. 

[Excel]

1 minute ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

He had a helmet on.

 

I did put the window down and give him an earful though. Silly old fool probably didn't know how close he came. 

Well good he had a helmet on, at least he wasn't that stupid then. Possibly a European in that case.

[richard_smith237]

He sounds like an utter idiot......      

 

He must have recognised his stupid mistake but lacked the intelligence to recognise such and offer both an apology and more importantly a thank-you. 

 

For these very reasons I have dash-cams on by my car and my motorcycle....   not to ‘shame him’ on hear (although that would also be an interesting video), but to protect yourself, because if you were slightly slower on the brakes you’d have proof that this fool cut across all three lanes in front of you and you were completely innocent in his demise. 

 

Unfortunately: The driver of any car involved in a fatal road traffic incident is automatically charged with ‘reckless driving leading to death’....  which is why our first hand insurance has a bail-bond. 

In possession of irrefutable proof (dash-cam footage) I imagine that this process is a lot less stressful. 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

18 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

an older farang on an orange cruiser bike, turned out from Bangkok Pattaya Hospital, crossed three lanes to do a u-turn right in front of me

How old was he ? (did he look) - could this be one of those ‘how old is too old to ride ?’ issues ?

[Mr Meeseeks]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

He sounds like an utter idiot......      

 

He must have recognised his stupid mistake but lacked the intelligence to recognise such and offer both an apology and more importantly a thank-you. 

 

For these very reasons I have dash-cams on by my car and my motorcycle....   not to ‘shame him’ on hear (although that would also be an interesting video), but to protect yourself, because if you were slightly slower on the brakes you’d have proof that this fool cut across all three lanes in front of you and you were completely innocent in his demise. 

 

Unfortunately: The driver of any car involved in a fatal road traffic incident is automatically charged with ‘reckless driving leading to death’....  which is why our first hand insurance has a bail-bond. 

In possession of irrefutable proof (dash-cam footage) I imagine that this process is a lot less stressful. 

 

 

I fitted the front and rear dash cams pretty much straight after I bought the car as they did not come as standard. Glad I did now in hindsight. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

How old was he ? (did he look) - could this be one of those ‘how old is too old to ride ?’ issues ?

I would say he was 60+

 

I have a mate I ride with who is 70 and he is a very good rider. 

[Rimmer]

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[richard_smith237]

17 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

I fitted the front and rear dash cams pretty much straight after I bought the car as they did not come as standard. Glad I did now in hindsight. 

Well come on then... Don’t keep us waiting !!! ????

[richard_smith237]

21 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

I would say he was 60+

Just left the hospital. Who knows what news he received. Perhaps he was totally distracted.

 

Mistakes happen, thats excusable. He was lucky you reacted quickly.... 

 

But then he give you the middle finger...  what that before or after you shouted at him? (blasted the horn too?) - either way, he was a total idiot to give you the finger. Hand up as an apology, wave of thanks and acknowledgment that he stuffed up is all thats required.

 

Edited March 23, 2022 by richard_smith237

[JimmyJ]

27 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

For these very reasons I have dash-cams on by my car and my motorcycle....   

 

 

 

No problems with theft of dashcam from motorcycles? 

[Will B Good]

39 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

I would say he was 60+

 

I have a mate I ride with who is 70 and he is a very good rider. 

I guess, in the main, it is the better drivers that make it to 70.......your guy in the orange cruiser is unlikely to make it that far.

[richard_smith237]

17 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

No problems with theft of dashcam from motorcycles? 

The cam on the motorcycle is not like a regular car-dash-cam, its specific for motorcycles. 

 

Innov K2...its fitted and somewhat difficult to remove - all the important parts are under the seat, only the camera / lenses themselves are exposed. 

 

 

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

28 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Just left the hospital. Who knows what news he received. Perhaps he was totally distracted.

 

Mistakes happen, thats excusable. He was lucky you reacted quickly.... 

 

But then he give you the middle finger...  what that before or after you shouted at him? (blasted the horn too?) - either way, he was a total idiot to give you the finger. Hand up as an apology, wave of thanks and acknowledgment that he stuffed up is all thats required.

 

I sounded the horn to alert him he was coming over possibly in front of me and was about to be hit. After I locked up and he was on the move he gave me the finger. Lol. I then pulled alongside him at the u-turn and gave him a bit of an ear bashing.

 

Like I said, if I was in the pick-up or another work vehicle he would have been hit for sure. 

[stubuzz]

1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

I fitted the front and rear dash cams pretty much straight after I bought the car as they did not come as standard. Glad I did now in hindsight. 

Upload the video!

[scubascuba3]

i was riding last week and a tourist who looked Russian crossed the road in front of me without looking right, only left, lucky i anticipated it, some peoples brains aren't in gear, simple as that

[Excel]

Just now, scubascuba3 said:

i was riding last week and a tourist who looked Russian crossed the road in front of me without looking right, only left, lucky i anticipated it, some peoples brains aren't in gear, simple as that

By "looking Russian" what do you mean and how do Russians look ? Of course if he was wearing Speedos one or two sizes too small it is obvious he was a Russian, but how else can you recognize them ?  

[Chris.B]

1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

I would say he was 60+

 

Yep, these youngsters living fast and furious! 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

It seems that guy will sort out all those problems sometime soon, and permanently. Problem solved.

[scubascuba3]

7 minutes ago, Excel said:

By "looking Russian" what do you mean and how do Russians look ? Of course if he was wearing Speedos one or two sizes too small it is obvious he was a Russian, but how else can you recognize them ?  

Russian lady, middle aged, dyed blonde, moving to the barrel stage

[JeffersLos]

1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

I had to lock-up my brakes to avoid hitting him. 

Lock up your brakes??

 

Get ABS for the love of George. Your car doesn't belong on the road.

 

 

1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

doing about 80kph... turned out from Bangkok Pattaya Hospital

[richard_smith237]

5 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

Lock up your brakes??

 

Get ABS for the love of George. Your car doesn't belong on the road.

 

 

 

Does it matter what brakes you have when someone pulls out across a 3 line road into your path ?

Arguably... the Op locked up (meaning he didn’t but still stopped). 

The Op said he was travelling at 80kmh, but still stopped in time.

 

The point of the Op is that a motorcyclist pulled across three lanes of traffic without looking.... 

 

Whether people are doing 60kmh, 80kmh or have ABS or not, the act of pulling out across 3 lanes of traffic is remarkably stupid. 

 

[a340bangla1]

9 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

 

Well, obviously he was going the other way

[JeffersLos]

9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Does it matter what brakes you have when someone pulls out across a 3 line road into your path ?

No, what brakes a car has or hasn't doesn't make any difference at all. ????

 

JHC

[Will B Good]

38 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Russian lady, middle aged, dyed blonde, moving to the barrel stage

Tattoos (bad ones), smoking (a cigarette) and knocking back vodka shots?.......I think I know her........Sonia.  

[Lacessit]

I'd agree giving the finger to the OP was stupid. Thais know exactly what it means, and  some could react violently.

Having said that, "decent brakes" and "locking up brakes" is a contradiction in terms, one can't lock up a brake system with ABS. I doubt there are many modern cars without ABS nowadays.

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

I'd agree giving the finger to the OP was stupid. Thais know exactly what it means, and  some could react violently.

Having said that, "decent brakes" and "locking up brakes" is a contradiction in terms, one can't lock up a brake system with ABS. I doubt there are many modern cars without ABS nowadays.

I have a 2021 Benz so it has ABS and as well as me stomping the foot down it sounded the hazard alarm and brake assist activated when the sensors saw the danger.

 

Lock-up was just a term I used to describe the scenario.

 

Like I said, in a heavier vehicle with poorer brakes e.g. a pick-up he would have been hit. No doubt. 

 

My speed was an estimate, didn't have time to clock the speedo but I was in comfort mode and cruising. 

[richard_smith237]

9 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I'd agree giving the finger to the OP was stupid. Thais know exactly what it means, and  some could react violently.

Having said that, "decent brakes" and "locking up brakes" is a contradiction in terms, one can't lock up a brake system with ABS. I doubt there are many modern cars without ABS nowadays.

Meeseeks may have meant.. ‘forced the ABS to engage’...  

 

When that happens there is some ‘tire squeal’....   (happens in the car and on the bike when the rear gets a little squirrelly under heavy braking). 

[patman30]

whats the point of moaning/complaining/ranting ?
surely you have all been here long enough to know what the roads are like
it is what it is, and foreigners are just as bad if not worse sometimes.????‍♂️