Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[CharlieH]

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[UWEB]

2 hours ago, Lee65 said:

 

Ignoring me won't change that you've still got several potentially explosive batteries inside and parked next to your house.  And anyway, what do the Chinese know about EV batteries?  🤣

 

The cope! 

The Chinese are knowing that much about EV Batteries that Tesla is even using them, beside that Toyota just announced to start using BYD Blade Batteries.

[KhunLA]

Damn ... that was a classic & the reply ... oh well

 

"Bob's Your Uncle"

 

Toyota finally getting smart.  They should just give the EV department over to their Daihatsu division/partner, let them build 'em ...  

 

OK, joking aside, maybe just give them to Ranz to build, or not.

[Bandersnatch]

5 hours ago, Lee65 said:

you've still got several potentially explosive batteries inside and parked next to your house

 

You never see these signs at an EV charging station.  They just don't get it do they!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[transam]

14 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

You never see these signs at an EV charging station.  They just don't get it do they!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Different fuel type, but do they have signs for EV's near water, like a Ford....?  🤗

 

Edited May 23 by transam

[CharlesHolzhauer]

Off Topic but interesting anyway.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/car-advice/roadside-assistance-ev-nightmare-as-prices-crash/news-story/b62dd244c63c842b56c24d1c649fd5cd

[JBChiangRai]

I think we will see more and more legacy automakers who aren't in a position to make BEV's pushing Hybrids. not so much PHEV because they can't make those either.

 

Chief among these will be Toyota, I think we will see them come out from the shadows they are so active in and go full blown anti-EV pro Hybrid publicly.  I have lost all respect for Toyota which I used to see as an excellent company, I have had 3 new Toyota's in Thailand in the last 18 years. I will never buy another.

 

Those that invested early like BMW & Mercedes seem to be doing a good job.

 

Toyota's problem is they developed Nickel Metal Hydride batteries and they don't have LFP experience or technology, they took the wrong path years ago and are now at least a generation behind.

 

Toyota "Self Charging Hybrids", I hope consumers aren't that stupid, but human stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

[Bandersnatch]

54 minutes ago, CharlesHolzhauer said:

Off Topic but interesting anyway.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/car-advice/roadside-assistance-ev-nightmare-as-prices-crash/news-story/b62dd244c63c842b56c24d1c649fd5cd

 

Tesla has a history of rapidly adjusting prices to match market conditions almost everywhere, except in Thailand. The only price adjustment here for the model 3 came a week after the launch of the BYD Seal which at launch sold more cars in a week than Tesla had sold model 3s in the whole year. 

 

RWD Model 3 in Aus was ฿1,424,995 now is ฿1,328,325 way cheaper than in Thailand

 

 

The BYD Seal AWD Performance is a ฿100k cheaper than the RWD Tesla in Thailand before the extras that you have to pay with Teslas: Paint, Wheels, Wall Charger, insurance etc. and you don’t get bi-directional charging as you do on BYDs

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Fruit Trader]

13 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

You never see these signs at an EV charging station.  They just don't get it do they!

 

 

 

 

 

It is early days on this path into the unknown, so lets take a peek into the crystal ball and create a sign for the EV fuelling stations.

 

 

[CharlesHolzhauer]

1 hour ago, Bandersnatch said:

Tesla has a history of rapidly adjusting prices to match market conditions almost everywhere

Tesla (Elon) seem pretty confident...

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/23/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-says-he-favors-no-tariffs-on-chinese-evs.html

[mistral53]

18 minutes ago, CharlesHolzhauer said:

Tesla (Elon) seem pretty confident...

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/23/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-says-he-favors-no-tariffs-on-chinese-evs.html

I think it has more to do with fear of retaliation. Same for the German car companies, they are adamant not to introduce tariffs as their main business is in China. Conversely, the French would love to have tariffs in Europe as they would be able to kill to birds with one stone - damage the German's business in China, and protect their fledgling EV business in Europe.

 

 

[mistral53]

I don't know whether this was already posted - certainly interesting trend, if month to month can be labeled as 'trend':

 

https://www.autofun.co.th/news/ev-sales-in-thailand-april-2024-79386

[CharlieH]

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[owl sees all]

Does this count as a leccy vehicle?

 

The family's new run-a-bout.

 

 

2 hours to full charge; from zero

0 to 35kmph in 4 seconds

70km range

400 kg pay load.

 

The nuts.

[billd766]

On 4/22/2022 at 11:40 AM, GroveHillWanderer said:

Here's a map of charging points for Thailand. I'm not sure what you mean by "national network" but this looks pretty much nationwide to me.

 

If of course you live away from the main highway or not in a bigger city, as many people do, then the charging coverage is not so great nationally. It may take several years and require a huge investment to upgrade the PEA national network before it can be said to be truly nationwide.

[JBChiangRai]

14 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Does this count as a leccy vehicle?

 

The family's new run-a-bout.

 

 

2 hours to full charge; from zero

0 to 35kmph in 4 seconds

70km range

400 kg pay load.

 

The nuts.

 

What is the battery chemistry?

 

[Andrew Dwyer]

16 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Does this count as a leccy vehicle?

 

The family's new run-a-bout.

 

 

2 hours to full charge; from zero

0 to 35kmph in 4 seconds

70km range

400 kg pay load.

 

The nuts.

Have you thought about a spare battery ready and charged Owl ??

 

Here’s how it is done in Taiwan :

 

 

[JBChiangRai]

8 minutes ago, billd766 said:

If of course you live away from the main highway or not in a bigger city, as many people do, then the charging coverage is not so great nationally. It may take several years and require a huge investment to upgrade the PEA national network before it can be said to be truly nationwide.

 

Many people are under the misapprehension that they need charging stations near their home, with a home charger the nearest you will ever need a charging station is 150km away.

[billd766]

13 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Does this count as a leccy vehicle?

 

The family's new run-a-bout.

 

 

2 hours to full charge; from zero

0 to 35kmph in 4 seconds

70km range

400 kg pay load.

 

The nuts.

I looked at something similar earlier this week in Kamphaeng Phet but the model had a roof to keep most of the sun and rain off.

 

The big problem for me is that the seat the lady is sitting on can be turned around and folded flat to allow the main seat to be moved. Sadly that seat has 2 positions.

Where it is now, you need long arms and legs to sit comfortably.

In the forward position, it is too close for driving comfortably.

There are NO intermediate seat adjustments.

[billd766]

5 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Many people are under the misapprehension that they need charging stations near their home, with a home charger the nearest you will ever need a charging station is 150km away.

You keep repeating the same old mantra.

 

Why would you buy an EV and have to charge it 150km or less away, when you should be able to charge it close to or at your own home? You are wasting your time, your charge  and your money, when all you need to do when you get home is plug your EV in and charge it up.

 

Is charging it at a public charging station cheaper than charging at home? When you charge it at home you are free to do things that you want to do, and not hang about waiting for your EV to be charged up, that is assuming that there is an empty charging slot available, just like the one at your home.

[Andrew Dwyer]

3 minutes ago, billd766 said:

You keep repeating the same old mantra.

 

Why would you buy an EV and have to charge it 150km or less away, when you should be able to charge it close to or at your own home? You are wasting your time, your charge  and your money, when all you need to do when you get home is plug your EV in and charge it up.

 

Is charging it at a public charging station cheaper than charging at home? When you charge it at home you are free to do things that you want to do, and not hang about waiting for your EV to be charged up, that is assuming that there is an empty charging slot available, just like the one at your home.

Seems like you didn’t understand the post you quoted.

If you have a home charger you don’t need any chargers near your home and only if you travel further afield will you need a charger.

 

I have an EV and a home charger, the nearest outside charger i have used is around 200 km away.

[Andrew Dwyer]

34 minutes ago, billd766 said:

If of course you live away from the main highway or not in a bigger city, as many people do, then the charging coverage is not so great nationally. It may take several years and require a huge investment to upgrade the PEA national network before it can be said to be truly nationwide.

Most PEA Authority offices will have a charger open 24 hrs with a cheap rate on weekends and at nighttime.

 

My mil lives in a small rural town and the charger apps were showing the nearest charger to be 19km away on the highway, using the PEA app i discovered a charger 4km away just outside of town.

[JBChiangRai]

18 minutes ago, billd766 said:

You keep repeating the same old mantra.

 

Why would you buy an EV and have to charge it 150km or less away, when you should be able to charge it close to or at your own home? You are wasting your time, your charge  and your money, when all you need to do when you get home is plug your EV in and charge it up.

 

Is charging it at a public charging station cheaper than charging at home? When you charge it at home you are free to do things that you want to do, and not hang about waiting for your EV to be charged up, that is assuming that there is an empty charging slot available, just like the one at your home.

I think you misread my post, that’s pretty much what I was saying.

[billd766]

3 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Seems like you didn’t understand the post you quoted.

If you have a home charger you don’t need any chargers near your home and only if you travel further afield will you need a charger.

 

I have an EV and a home charger, the nearest outside charger i have used is around 200 km away.

But I DO understand the post I quoted.

 

The big problem is that the PEA and the MEA network is not strong enough to support many thousands of EV being charged at home without a major upgrade and overhaul.

 

From what I have read extra power stations will be needed. The 3 phase and single phase transformers are mostly old and have problems keeping up with current needs and many will need replacing with larger items to satisfy future demands, and all of this really is needed before a huge increase in EVs hits the roads.

[transam]

15 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Seems like you didn’t understand the post you quoted.

If you have a home charger you don’t need any chargers near your home and only if you travel further afield will you need a charger.

 

I have an EV and a home charger, the nearest outside charger i have used is around 200 km away.

So if your home charger has a problem, you are stuck.......?   🤔

[JBChiangRai]

6 minutes ago, billd766 said:

But I DO understand the post I quoted.

 

The big problem is that the PEA and the MEA network is not strong enough to support many thousands of EV being charged at home without a major upgrade and overhaul.

 

From what I have read extra power stations will be needed. The 3 phase and single phase transformers are mostly old and have problems keeping up with current needs and many will need replacing with larger items to satisfy future demands, and all of this really is needed before a huge increase in EVs hits the roads.

 

But that's not what you said, you now mention the energy grid not being able to cope.

 

The average EV uses 4kwHr of energy per day, it is not difficult for the grid to cope with that and the grid will probably be enhanced at a faster rate than uptake of EV's.

[JBChiangRai]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

So if your home charger has a problem, you are stuck.......?   🤔

 

If your fuel pump breaks you are stuck.  If there is an alien invasion you are stuck, any more useless comments Troll?

[transam]

Just now, JBChiangRai said:

 

If your fuel pump breaks you are stuck.  If there is an alien invasion you are stuck, any more useless comments Troll?

How often does fuel pump break........🙄............😂

I asked a simple question that you cannot answer, so why did you reply to anothers question.

As for troll, that is really scrapping your barrel...🥴

 

I keep reading here that charge stations are everywhere, which obviously isn't the case because a member has clarified.

 

So, if you are unfortunate enough to be one of those who is not near a charge station, and your home rig developed a problem, what do you do...?

 

Sensible answers only, please....🤗

 

 

[JBChiangRai]

27 minutes ago, transam said:

How often does fuel pump break........🙄............😂

I asked a simple question that you cannot answer, so why did you reply to anothers question.

As for troll, that is really scrapping your barrel...🥴

 

I keep reading here that charge stations are everywhere, which obviously isn't the case because a member has clarified.

 

So, if you are unfortunate enough to be one of those who is not near a charge station, and your home rig developed a problem, what do you do...?

 

Sensible answers only, please....🤗

 

 

 

A fuel pump breaks much more often than an EV charger, mechanical devices always do.

 

I have yet to see a comment from you which is not trolling, I live in hope.

[transam]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

A fuel pump breaks much more often than an EV charger, mechanical devices always do.

 

I have yet to see a comment from you which is not trolling, I live in hope.

That is laughable, why don't you just answer the question instead of making MORE excuses..........🙄

Why is my question, trolling, go for it.....🤨